Reputation: only album that sold 2M copies in the last two years

[scallywally 626]

3 hours ago, jaXXXon said:

Call me when ANY Taylor album sells as much as The Fame. Or better yet, call me when Reputation sells as much as Born This Way. 

I dont get where youre coming from. Reputations about to take over BTW and it hasn't been out long. 1989 sold more than the fame according to what site you read. 

Taylors on a worldwide stadium tour, Gaga cancelled an arena tour with black curtains covering unsold seats. 

I love gaga same as we all do but we look stupid if we think Gaga is in the same status as Taylor. I kinda prefer it that way because we get more intimate shows, fans get to meet her more ect. Im happy with that. We cant make up **** though. 

Shes sold more albums more than anybody else on the planet in 2 years. Thats an achievement. If people want to say thats crap they look idiotic.

Were not living in the days when Madonna would drop like a prayer and 14 million physical sales fly out the stores. 

[jaXXXon 1,538]

6 minutes ago, scallywally said:

I dont get where youre coming from. Reputations about to take over BTW and it hasn't been out long. 1989 sold more than the fame according to what site you read. 

Taylors on a worldwide stadium tour, Gaga cancelled an arena tour with black curtains covering unsold seats. 

I love gaga same as we all do but we look stupid if we think Gaga is in the same status as Taylor. I kinda prefer it that way because we get more intimate shows, fans get to meet her more ect. Im happy with that. We cant make up **** though. 

Shes sold more albums more than anybody else on the planet in 2 years. Thats an achievement. If people want to say thats crap they look idiotic.

Were not living in the days when Madonna would drop like a prayer and 14 million physical sales fly out the stores. 

Born This Way sold 6 million copies worldwide, Reputation has sold 3 million and will not do more than 4 million worldwide.

The Fame sold 15 million, while the standard version sold 11 million worldwide. 1989 has sold 10 million.

Gaga's Monster Ball tour has sold more tickets than Taylor's 1989 tour. 

Are you a flop fan? Taylor has NEVER been as big as Gaga was during her peak. 

[AURA 2,890]

8 hours ago, jaXXXon said:

Call me when ANY Taylor album sells as much as The Fame. Or better yet, call me when Reputation sells as much as Born This Way. 

Call me when Gaga will have 4 albums to sell more than 1m copies in the us in a week. Oh wait, everything she puts out after BTW struggles to do even 500k. Also, you're comparing 2011 to 2017 sales

A 400M + gross tour will make you seethe

[scallywally 626]

9 hours ago, jaXXXon said:

Born This Way sold 6 million copies worldwide, Reputation has sold 3 million and will not do more than 4 million worldwide.

The Fame sold 15 million, while the standard version sold 11 million worldwide. 1989 has sold 10 million.

Gaga's Monster Ball tour has sold more tickets than Taylor's 1989 tour. 

Are you a flop fan? Taylor has NEVER been as big as Gaga was during her peak. 

Thats grasping at straws 

The amazing monster ball, which I loved 203 shows £227.4 mil.

1989 tour 85 shows £250 mil. 

Who knows they both could've gone on to do 300 dates if they wanted until everyone had seen them till they charged $5, that would be as redic as what you say. 

You only have to look at those stats to see which was the more profitable/successful. 

Im not here to argue, im a fan, no need to question that. Im a realist pointing out whos selling stadiums worldwide and WE let ourselves down staging most other females that has a go at living their dream. Thats sad. When they go low, we go high. We dont want to be like other fan bases, do we??

[ordinarynam1310 2,453]

On 3/22/2018 at 10:11 AM, jaXXXon said:

That's pure speculation. Did Blank Space need a televised performance to go #1 for weeks and weeks? No. Did Shake It Off? Hell no. Promotion would probably have helped a little, but her singles would still flop/underperform.

What truly drove Taylor's singles last era was RADIO. And RADIO ain't here for Ms. Swift this era at all.

Reputation crossed 2 million yada yada yada. You know what else? It's also the last mark it'll reach. It won't ever reach 2.5 million, let alone 3.

And at the end of the day, the album is selling less than 10k weekly now and it hasn't crossed 3.5 million WW. 

AT BEST it'll go on to reach 4 million, which is down SIXTY PERCENT from her last album. That right there, my dear, is worse than Gaga's decline from TF to BTW. It's one of the biggest declines for major pop girls in recent memory, if of all time.

So to claim this era is by any means some sort of success is ridiculous. The public at large has lost interest in Taylor. Her worldwide fame only truly lasted one era (1989), so in the memory of the GP worldwide, she's only really known for one era and is in the eyes of the WW GP a one-era-wonder. 

And to end my essay with another "funfact": Gaga and Taylor had similar declines, but only one of them (Gaga) had actual hits during that same decline (Born This Way and The Edge of Glory)  

You really despite her don't you? 

I mean, 1989 was a mark for her career since she switched to full pop, and the lead was insanely catchy, so is the rest of the album, and the Katy feud, etc, that's why she sell so much. 

And for reputation, she didn't even bother to promote, and it still sells 2M up until now. That IS impressive for an album in this streaming era, you can say it was the biggest downfall or anything but the album is still a success in pulling numbers that others can't. 

And I seriously don't get why people drag Taylor for being "local", I'd listened to her older songs a lot before 1989.

And about the hits or misses, reputation still be able to make an moment in Pop culture which is the LWYMMD video and the "the old Taylor can't come to the phone right now" line. 

[ryanripley 86,575]

people in here actually arguing over sales

who cares who sold what and when

taylor stans need to chill and stop attacking gaga whenever someone wants to comment on taylor 

[TheRoof 21,600]

6 minutes ago, ryanripley said:

people in here actually arguing over sales

who cares who sold what and when

taylor stans need to chill and stop attacking gaga whenever someone wants to comment on taylor 

this 

btw the question here is why she's not doing promo? 

[ryanripley 86,575]

Just now, MarlonBrando7 said:

this 

btw the question here is why she's not doing promo? 

probably to avoid over exposure to the GP, they're not really here for her tbh

she just dropped an album with great marketing and said bye

[TheRoof 21,600]

4 minutes ago, ryanripley said:

probably to avoid over exposure to the GP, they're not really here for her tbh

she just dropped an album with great marketing and said bye

yeah i thought the same

also this shity trend of complain about EVERYTHING on twitter, media, etc  needs to stop 

[Phoebe Buffay 12,525]

Wow, this thread....

This era IS an underperformance for Taylor's standards. Don't tell me she didn't promote just because she wasn't doing interviews. I mean, look at all this promo:

Spoiler

+Jimmy Fallon, Jingle Bell Ball, Spotify, premiering music videos during award shows, Saturday Night Live, billboards....

And still her singles flopped (excluding LWYMMD which only lasted a month or two). Having 4 singles and your album only being out for 4 months should tell you something. Even End Game (which features ED SHEERAN and FUTURE) didn't do well. Her singles began to free fall on the charts and radio after two weeks or three. The album also spent the least weeks at #1 on the BBH100 (4 weeks? ) while 1989 and Red spent way more and it isn't in the top 10. . And still you Swift fans are calling this A SUCCESS. (if she'd been active for the whole 2016/ beginning of 2017, then it wouldn't crack even 1,5 in SPS.)

And Gaga, for her overexposed era still managed to have 4 songs in the top 10, while the 2 of them were SMASH hits. (in other countries too, not US, UK and Canada only ). Plus she went on a REAL world tour and sold out stadiums around the world too (London, Paris, Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires, Seoul, Bangkok, Copenhagen....). Swift can't sell out a stadium outside of NA and Australia and that's a F A C T, not especially selling out a stadium in Paris (71k).

 

And to anybody saying that wOw, YoU CoMpAre a 2011 AlbUm to a 2017... Joanne still has sold 2.2 copies WW. Taylor's only has sold 3.5 because of the 2M sales in the US only.

[swakby 4,100]

On 3/22/2018 at 4:11 AM, jaXXXon said:

That's pure speculation. Did Blank Space need a televised performance to go #1 for weeks and weeks? No. Did Shake It Off? Hell no. Promotion would probably have helped a little, but her singles would still flop/underperform.

What truly drove Taylor's singles last era was RADIO. And RADIO ain't here for Ms. Swift this era at all.

Reputation crossed 2 million yada yada yada. You know what else? It's also the last mark it'll reach. It won't ever reach 2.5 million, let alone 3.

And at the end of the day, the album is selling less than 10k weekly now and it hasn't crossed 3.5 million WW. 

AT BEST it'll go on to reach 4 million, which is down SIXTY PERCENT from her last album. That right there, my dear, is worse than Gaga's decline from TF to BTW. It's one of the biggest declines for major pop girls in recent memory, if of all time.

So to claim this era is by any means some sort of success is ridiculous. The public at large has lost interest in Taylor. Her worldwide fame only truly lasted one era (1989), so in the memory of the GP worldwide, she's only really known for one era and is in the eyes of the WW GP a one-era-wonder. 

And to end my essay with another "funfact": Gaga and Taylor had similar declines, but only one of them (Gaga) had actual hits during that same decline (Born This Way and The Edge of Glory)  

uhm gurl LWYMMD has 800m+ views on Youtube, 3x platinum in the US, biggest opening day for a video, was #1 for MULTIPLE weeks. Every video of the era has 100m+ views on Youtube (Delicate is coming) with literally zero promotion, whereas Gaga was promoting the hell out of BTW (and still wasn't on top of the charts for long). It is a decline from 1989, but you also have to take into account that Taylor had a similar amount of success as Reputation during her previous albums (look at Speak Now, Red, etc). 

Don't compare the success of Gaga with Taylor (in the US). While Gaga has one album that sold more than 3 million copies in the US, Taylor has 5 of those, possibly a 6th one on the way (you never know what the tour brings ). And Taylor did it  during the time when physical sales are declining. You say people are hating on Taylor? Then why did she manage to pull off 2m+ in the US ALONE whereas the major loveable pop girls can't even cross the 500k mark? She outsold every female in the past few years, except for Adele (god bless her).

 

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[Phoebe Buffay 12,525]

6 minutes ago, swakby said:

uhm gurl LWYMMD has 800m+ views on Youtube, 3x platinum in the US, biggest opening day for a video, was #1 for MULTIPLE weeks. Every video of the era has 100m+ views on Youtube (Delicate is coming) with literally zero promotion, whereas Gaga was promoting the hell out of BTW (and still wasn't on top of the charts for long). It is a decline from 1989, but you also have to take into account that Taylor had a similar amount of success as Reputation during her previous albums (look at Speak Now, Red, etc). 

Don't compare the success of Gaga with Taylor (in the US). While Gaga has one album that sold more than 3 million copies in the US, Taylor has 5 of those, possibly a 6th one on the way (you never know what the tour brings ). And Taylor did it  during the time when physical sales are declining. You say people are hating on Taylor? Then why did she manage to pull off 2m+ in the US ALONE whereas the major loveable pop girls can't even cross the 500k mark? She outsold every female in the past few years, except for Adele (god bless her).

 

1. LWYMMD was a success because it was her comeback after the whole 'snake' thing fiasco. (a success that began to free fall after 4/5 weeks.)

2. BTW was 55 weeks on the BB200 (a whole year to be specific). (if you call that not good then I don't what is)

3. The Fame and Born This Way have sold over 3M in sales alone you know, it's just that her label and team are a mess for not certifying her old stuff. If they did certify it maybe The Fame would be 4M, you never know.

4. She sold 2M because that is her main market. She isn't Madonna, MJ, Bey, Rih, Gaga to be big in other music markets too you know.

[jaXXXon 1,538]

3 hours ago, scallywally said:

Thats grasping at straws 

The amazing monster ball, which I loved 203 shows £227.4 mil.

1989 tour 85 shows £250 mil. 

Who knows they both could've gone on to do 300 dates if they wanted until everyone had seen them till they charged $5, that would be as redic as what you say. 

You only have to look at those stats to see which was the more profitable/successful. 

Im not here to argue, im a fan, no need to question that. Im a realist pointing out whos selling stadiums worldwide and WE let ourselves down staging most other females that has a go at living their dream. Thats sad. When they go low, we go high. We dont want to be like other fan bases, do we??

But Gaga SOLD MORE ALBUMS, had MORE HITS and had a BIGGER PEAK worldwide. You said Taylor was bigger which is complete nonsense when it comes to Gaga's PEAK. Taylor's 1989 was NOT bigger than Gaga's The Fame in any way, shape or form.

To further prove my point, I'd like to point out the fact that there's something called INFLATION. Meaning that Gaga actually did $247 MILLION in 2017 dollars. 

[jaXXXon 1,538]

1 hour ago, swakby said:

uhm gurl LWYMMD has 800m+ views on Youtube, 3x platinum in the US, biggest opening day for a video, was #1 for MULTIPLE weeks. Every video of the era has 100m+ views on Youtube (Delicate is coming) with literally zero promotion, whereas Gaga was promoting the hell out of BTW (and still wasn't on top of the charts for long). It is a decline from 1989, but you also have to take into account that Taylor had a similar amount of success as Reputation during her previous albums (look at Speak Now, Red, etc).

 

When Born This Way spent SIX WEEKS atop the Billboard Hot 100, it did so with only sales and radio. Taylor's Look How You Made Me Flop After The Hype Was Dead and Radio Never Really Played Me was number one only THREE WEEKS and it did so with sales, radio and STREAMING, something Billboard wasn't counting when BTW debuted. And even without streaming, BTW spent more weeks at #1. 

FACT is Taylor is doing HALF of Born This Way worldwide right now (6 million vs. 3 million), so this proves my point even more: Taylor has not, is not and will not be bigger than Gaga's peak worldwide