Economy 52,837 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/03/05/rising-interest-rates-will-be-devastating-to-the-us-economy-for-one-big-reason.html Blame Trump! Not only has the new President put in policies that accumulate debt at a faster pace than before, but his inflationairy inducing policies will also force bond yields (interest rates) higher At the current projected rate of debt accomulation, if interest rates rise back up to their 30 year average (10 year bonds are at 2.9%, the 30 year average is close to 5%)... US debt charges would increase to over $800 Billion or about half of US income taxes by the time all bonds matured and thus had to be refinanced at the new market rates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retron 2,605 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinTrudeau 2,419 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Well well well This 'businessman' seems to be helping the country save money and be great again I fell down the stairs once as an actor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchHooker 8,600 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I'm staying out of this before I get dragged again.. We need DarkGa with Bops so we can rule the industry again and learn the other popgirls how to snatch 'em wigs to ultimate baldness!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,837 Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, DutchHooker said: I'm staying out of this before I get dragged again.. Now I'm curious to know ur opinion lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LePetitGAGABLover 21,234 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Tragic results from a tragic leadership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FixtheSSL 9 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 inb4 monsters blaming trump for inventing the debt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petie Estie 5,704 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 i could prob google it but....who we paying this interest to....at this level debt seems silly. i guess other countries. But then it' slike.....when does that loan get put into the USA economy? lol. the concept of debt on an international scale makes no sense to me. Call your therapist...it's Petie Estie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikolaj 11,640 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 @DutchHooker actually it would be cool to know your opinion on this one On topic, that's terrible isn't it? the government is spending like it's recession. The debt is sustainable as long as people believe in US ability to pay it off and buy the bonds... but that's quite a catchy fact to throw around - half of income tax will be spent on the interest alone, not mentioning paying the debt off. Once this goes viral (or an even more disastrous prediction), it's not gonna be fun if one year there will be no borrowing anymore because no one will lend the money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,837 Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 hour ago, SEANGT said: i could prob google it but....who we paying this interest to....at this level debt seems silly. i guess other countries. But then it' slike.....when does that loan get put into the USA economy? lol. the concept of debt on an international scale makes no sense to me. Lol That would not work. Most Countries have debt and few lend so how would Countries ever borrow enough from other Countries? I'll explain how it works Governments sell something called bonds (Corporations sometimes sell them too). And that bond has an age of maturity. On that date whoever sold it must pay it back Generally speaking Governments sell 1 year, 2 year, 5 year and 10 year bonds but as high as 30 year or longer exist. The Government sells new ones on a daily basis to pay off the bonds that are due Literally ANYONE can invest in them. Individuals like you and me, Investment funds, Pension Funds and in some cases yes Countries may also choose to invest in them if they have a savings fund (Like Norway, China, Saudi Arabia etc) If you work and make deductions for retirement, good chance your retirement fund has at least some of its assets in bonds. Most ppl have lent the Government without even realizing it! So to answer your question, Government debt is actually owed by many different sources, it's a big mix of lenders. Bonds can also be sold early and traded that's called the bond market and their interest rates and yields fluctuate, bonds even have prices too Right now the US 10 year bonds are just under 2.9% but that's low by historical standards. It would be hard for the US to sustain payments if rates went up to 4% or 5% Other Nations have this issue too. The world has gotten hooked on cheap credit of the last decade! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,837 Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 hour ago, ExMachina said: @DutchHooker actually it would be cool to know your opinion on this one On topic, that's terrible isn't it? the government is spending like it's recession. The debt is sustainable as long as people believe in US ability to pay it off and buy the bonds... but that's quite a catchy fact to throw around - half of income tax will be spent on the interest alone, not mentioning paying the debt off. Once this goes viral (or an even more disastrous prediction), it's not gonna be fun if one year there will be no borrowing anymore because no one will lend the money. Or they could still lend the US money but at much higher rates... This would affect Corporate bonds as well and in turn surge the cost of credit for everything not to mention slow business investment Japan somehow has a debt to GDP ratio of 230% (highest in the world) and hasn't had a meltdown and their bond yields are like 0.8% Nevertheless Japan has some unique circumstances that make a debt load that high possible to sustain. Most Countries (including the US) could never Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikolaj 11,640 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, Economy said: Or they could still lend the US money but at much higher rates... This would affect Corporate bonds as well and in turn surge the cost of credit for everything not to mention slow business investment Japan somehow has a debt to GDP ratio of 230% (highest in the world) and hasn't had a meltdown and their bond yields are like 0.8% Nevertheless Japan has some unique circumstances that make a debt load that high possible to sustain. Most Countries (including the US) could never I have an internal conflict whether I should research to answer here or study for Economics exam tomorrow Are those debts really sustainable in the long term? Be it Japan or USA - let's say that USA borrows money at higher and higher rates which only accelerates the accumulation of debt. It looks like a downward spiral to me. You have to pay it back eventually. At one point it's bound to go to hell and this news makes it look like it's gonna be sooner rather than later. Germany made a surplus recently so it's not like impossible, just requires wise decisions rather than (insert any Trump's fiscal decision). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,837 Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 25 minutes ago, ExMachina said: I have an internal conflict whether I should research to answer here or study for Economics exam tomorrow Are those debts really sustainable in the long term? Be it Japan or USA - let's say that USA borrows money at higher and higher rates which only accelerates the accumulation of debt. It looks like a downward spiral to me. You have to pay it back eventually. At one point it's bound to go to hell and this news makes it look like it's gonna be sooner rather than later. Germany made a surplus recently so it's not like impossible, just requires wise decisions rather than (insert any Trump's fiscal decision). Mathematically u cannot surge your debt indefinitely. Eventually ud reach a point where u will simply need to borrow more than investors have to lend to you (even with higher rates encouraging lending) If it was owed money like a mortgage to one institution who was happy to just let the debt compound on itself to make you pay interest forever that's one thing But because Governments borrow thru bonds, and these bonds all have due dates on them and they have to borrow more to pay it off, fast debt accumulation forever wouldn't work Most economists consider long term annual deficits of 3% of GDP or lower sustainable tho as the economy would grow along with the debt making the size of debt relative to the economy stable (Debt to GDP Ratio) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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