dit 46,473 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 7 hours ago, PussyGlam said: She uses his name because he represents a bad boy from the wild West. The song isn't about him. I personally still find it troubling tbh. I know he is used as an example for that but couldn't she have used someone less racist and less "recent/current"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoanneMonster 9,028 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Her changing the color of her guitar during AYO at Coachella I See You Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 44 minutes ago, dit said: I personally still find it troubling tbh. I know he is used as an example for that but couldn't she have used someone less racist and less "recent/current"? No. Every human has their flaws. It's not Gaga's job to dissect every celebrity in existence to decide whether they are worthy enough. She isn't celebrating him as a character. I don't see what the big deal is. People are always going to find something to be offended about. This is a minor thing in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dit 46,473 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 37 minutes ago, PussyGlam said: No. Every human has their flaws. It's not Gaga's job to dissect every celebrity in existence to decide whether they are worthy enough. She isn't celebrating him as a character. I don't see what the big deal is. People are always going to find something to be offended about. This is a minor thing in my opinion. No. I am not offended but I have every right to be displeased about it. If it had offended me to that point I would of not been here right? I just think it was a wrong move and a bad idea and people can disagree on things. I don't agree with everything Gaga says or does and this is one of those things. Doesn't make me less of a fan or anything like that. Just makes me someone who can use critical thinking and for me this was not the best of moves. Tis all. Hope we can agree to disagree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iowa cyrus 566 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I loved the vomit performance and how it was about nobody can humiliate her, except herself. She can decide to do whatever she wants to her body, because it's hers. I think she said something about it being aimed towards the people who hurt her in her past or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LePetitGAGABLover 21,234 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 11 hours ago, Aquarius said: Hands down. What is this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, dit said: No. I am not offended but I have every right to be displeased about it. If it had offended me to that point I would of not been here right? I just think it was a wrong move and a bad idea and people can disagree on things. I don't agree with everything Gaga says or does and this is one of those things. Doesn't make me less of a fan or anything like that. Just makes me someone who can use critical thinking and for me this was not the best of moves. Tis all. Hope we can agree to disagree But why do people still support Chris Brown and allow him to have a career when he's a woman beater, why do people still praise David Bowie when he allegedly had underage sex with a minor?... I could go on naming more. Look at Gaga, she wears fur which is abhorrent to me but I'm still a fan. I have learnt that every person is flawed. I understand why you'd be pissed off that she would name drop John Wayne but perhaps she didn't know of the bad things he's done? If it was a song praising him on what a wonderful person he is I would understand your disgust but it's not about him at all. Who would you have preferred for her to name drop because most men from the wild west back then we're racist. Where do you think "cowboys vs Indians" came from? They were all racist back then and it changes with time as cultures merge together and learn acceptance and how to get along. I'm not trying to undermine your opinion because I understand racism is a horrible thing but she's not acknowledging him as a racist. It's just simply about craving a wild man. If you were going to choose a wild man from history who would you choose because they're all deeply flawed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCHofficial 5,293 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Ok so a few years ago there was a video of Gaga (in 2009) with some fan I believe who had won something or whatever. They were at some event, and together they did the Just Dance choreo and it looked cringey af Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dit 46,473 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, PussyGlam said: But why do people still support Chris Brown and allow him to have a career when he's a woman beater, why do people still praise David Bowie when he allegedly had underage sex with a minor?... I could go on naming more. Look at Gaga, she wears fur which is abhorrent to me but I'm still a fan. I have learnt that every person is flawed. I understand why you'd be pissed off that she would name drop John Wayne but perhaps she didn't know of the bad things he's done? If it was a song praising him on what a wonderful person he is I would understand your disgust but it's not about him at all. Who would you have preferred for her to name drop because most men from the wild west back then we're racist. Where do you think "cowboys vs Indians" came from? They were all racist back then and it changes with time as cultures merge together and learn acceptance and how to get along. I'm not trying to undermine your opinion because I understand racism is a horrible thing but she's not acknowledging him as a racist. It's just simply about craving a wild man. If you were going to choose a wild man from history who would you choose because they're all deeply flawed. But this is what I'm saying? I'm just saying he was a horrible guy and I'd rather she picked someone else. I'm not saying this has offended me to a point where I'd not like her (I think I made that super clear in the previous comment). As I said all people are flawed but I have every right to not agree with everything she does and that is all I am saying. I don't find her using John Wayne's name in a song appropriate. It's as simple as that. This doesn't mean anything that deep though. I don't agree with many things my friends do or say and I still love them to bits lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, dit said: But this is what I'm saying? I'm just saying he was a horrible guy and I'd rather she picked someone else. I'm not saying this has offended me to a point where I'd not like her (I think I made that super clear in the previous comment). As I said all people are flawed but I have every right to not agree with everything she does and that is all I am saying. I don't find her using John Wayne's name in a song appropriate. It's as simple as that. This doesn't mean anything that deep though. I don't agree with many things my friends do or say and I still love them to bits lol. Ok, I do understand your point of view. I just don't agree with it. But respect that we are different. I'm more bothered that she worked with Terry Richardson to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Stache 2,066 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 5 hours ago, cosmicluvrr said: Her extremely rude diva attitude throughout this entire thing especially around 8:40 like what was going on with her? Wtf how did I miss this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirrion Rizzons 11,031 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 whenever she says "when im in an arena i play it like a dive bar, and when I'm in a dive bar I play it like it's an arena" she says it in every interview Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlash 14,539 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 7 hours ago, PussyGlam said: What's wrong with a bit of spontaneity? I'd rather a performer did something in the moment that they felt like doing rather than only stick to a well rehearsed choreography they've done a hundred times over. I completely agree with you. It's just this one move which is cringey for me, that's it Spoiler And just bc I cringe at this particular move it doesn't mean she should never do that again. My personal opinion is not THAT important Ew, David! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 9 hours ago, Antichrist said: yes, her vocals were on point. but i just... whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, why did she do this, why did metallica do this, what even is thisssssssssss ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!??!!!???!!!!! This was one of the best things she's ever done in her entire career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctelus 2,892 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 when she said she speaks american on the zachary sang show Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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