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Y'all need to stop getting angry at people for being rubbed the wrong way by this thread. Many of us are victims of a pedophile's "urges".

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derpmonster
7 hours ago, Easy said:

Locking up Mark is like locking up gay people. He just have difference preferences that he probably couldn’t help too. 

No, this is different. A child cannot understand or consent to sex. Adult men and women can with each other. The laws may be extreme right now but this is done to save children as much as possible. You may say it's about attraction and he wouldn't "actually" do anything with a child. Well, someone clearly did to make that movie or pictures. It's about protecting those children. He actually did all this and paid people to have sex with children and gave them manuals. Yes rehabilitation should be focused on but the harshness of the laws really does stop people.

Pedophiliais not a sexuality. Prepubescent is not a gender.

About mental disorders, all aren't the same. Pedophilia may be a mental disease but the action of watching and owning child **** is not. It's what you do. You wouldn't defend a murderer because psychopathy is a mental disorder.

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The problem is that, Mark wasn't masturbating to, like, cartoons. It wasn't fiction. It was real victims of abuse. If he had been, and had fought those urges/didn't have those real-life urges and just stuck to drawings or something, I would feel 100% different. At the end of the day, there are no ways to change your sexual preferences/fetishes/kinks/whatever you want to call them like that, and it's less about what he's into and more about what he's doing, and what he's endorsing in the process. :neyde:

There are people who have gore fetishes, but don't kill people. You know what I mean? :laughga: That's what it's about. In Mark's case, real children were involved, and that is what needed stopped.

Through death? No. Never. :neyde:

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1 hour ago, derpmonster said:

No, this is different. A child cannot understand or consent to sex. Adult men and women can with each other. The laws may be extreme right now but this is done to save children as much as possible. You may say it's about attraction and he wouldn't "actually" do anything with a child. Well, someone clearly did to make that movie or pictures. It's about protecting those children. He actually did all this and paid people to have sex with children and gave them manuals. Yes rehabilitation should be focused on but the harshness of the laws really does stop people.

Pedophiliais not a sexuality. Prepubescent is not a gender.

About mental disorders, all aren't the same. Pedophilia may be a mental disease but the action of watching and owning child **** is not. It's what you do. You wouldn't defend a murderer because psychopathy is a mental disorder.

I’m not supporting pedophiliasis. Maybe I’m not using the best example but all I wanted to say that is Mark probably doesn’t have a choice yet he had to killl himself to get himself out of this situation and it’s sad. I really think they should provide treatment instead of prison time.

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Sad he couldn't get help and turn his life around for one of good, since he seemed to be talented. 

Very messy situation indeed. I hope his family finds peace.

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Trepadation

The T is that he tried to get his girlfriend (the one that outed him as a pedo) into watching child p*rn. 

:saladga: that doesn't sound like he wanted to change his way. 

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LordEnigma
2 hours ago, Nymphia said:

Y'all need to stop getting angry at people for being rubbed the wrong way by this thread. Many of us are victims of a pedophile's "urges".

I’m not really trying to support pedophiles or say it’s ok - I just think it’s something that we need to find a solution to and find ways to prevent this from happening.

Im sorry for what you have been through - I hope you have gotten help to get you through your trauma.

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Omar Vela
10 hours ago, Chronos said:

That's rude, no matter of what allegations he had, nobody deserved to die, people changes, most of them, and it's not even proven just yet if it's real or not, dont be rude on such serious topics as suicide.

are you serious???? people don't change, rapists don't change, robbers DON'T CHANVE, s**tty people will always be that way

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JusKeepBreathin
11 hours ago, Andy McQueen said:

I didn't knew he was an alleged pedophile. His co-star Cory Monteith died 2013, aged 31.

Why do you use the word alleged? He plead guilty to possession of child p0rnography.

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LordEnigma
20 minutes ago, Omar Vela said:

are you serious???? people don't change, rapists don't change, robbers DON'T CHANVE, s**tty people will always be that way

I don’t agree with that at all. Especially working in the prison system - there are people who never change but there are also a lot of people who do.

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Snejana

the solution to paedophilia is to stop sexualizing children, especially young girls, and infancy, sadly both of these practices are incredibly common and normalized in our society. I find it VERY hard to sympathize with this situation, bc imo paedophiles/paedophilia are byproducts of the patriarchal system we live in, the pathologization of those things only serves to protect grown ass males from taking responsibility for their reprehensible and vile behaviour.

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JusKeepBreathin
29 minutes ago, Snejana said:

the solution to paedophilia is to stop sexualizing children, especially young girls, and infancy, sadly both of these practices are incredibly common and normalized in our society. I find it VERY hard to sympathize with this situation, bc imo paedophiles/paedophilia are byproducts of the patriarchal system we live in, the pathologization of those things only serves to protect grown ass males from taking responsibility for their reprehensible and vile behaviour.

Please elaborate? Do you think pedophilia is a modern societal issue? Also why do you think only males are capable of such a horrible act? 

Also I'm falling asleep. If you respond I probably won't respond to your response until tomorrow. Sorry in advance.:sweat:

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I know I'm just repeating what dozens of others have already said, but the child p*** plus the suicide make it clear as day that Mark was suffering from his own mental health issues and very likely traumatized by abuse during his childhood. I'm not here to say we shouldn't condemn pedophilia, but I think it's just as important to recognize the cause of these issues as it is to discuss the result of the issues.

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HausOfMoana
16 hours ago, Chronos said:

That's rude, no matter of what allegations he had, nobody deserved to die, people changes, most of them, and it's not even proven just yet if it's real or not, dont be rude on such serious topics as suicide.

He deserves to be sentenced to death by rape. Done. 

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5 hours ago, Snejana said:

the solution to paedophilia is to stop sexualizing children, especially young girls, and infancy, sadly both of these practices are incredibly common and normalized in our society. I find it VERY hard to sympathize with this situation, bc imo paedophiles/paedophilia are byproducts of the patriarchal system we live in, the pathologization of those things only serves to protect grown ass males from taking responsibility for their reprehensible and vile behaviour.

that's A solution but not THE solution

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