ALL Charts Discussion

[Thrasher 22,980]

29 minutes ago, Americano said:

I know right.

It's hard for fans, but I'm really glad she keeps opting to cancel/take advice of her doctor's rather than forcing it. Artists who keep pushing when they shouldn't end up with no nose or a bald head.

Let’s hope she’s adviced by good and serious doctors though. I mean, this time they said ok to a schedule that has stopped her again 

Next time she should seriously consider to play just two shows per week and rest for 3-4 days between them without any further commitment, especially if she’s outside of North America and she has to change countries often.

[bloody g 31,746]

The fact that she can still perform so well is already more than enough for me.

I hope she doesn't need to promote that much in the near future...

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7 minutes ago, JevyDuty said:

WTF.... when will this fan base stop saying this. Sounds ridiculous. 

She performed it and people liked it. It's called promo and every artist does it to get a hit. Nothing organic there.

What's wrong with saying that the SB pushed the song? The song had already been losing momentum on the charts months before. The SB is what helped it go #4. Something organic would be a song that eventually climbs into the top 10 due to streams and purchases and not because of a main event. But that's not to say that MR's success wasn't valid.

 

7 minutes ago, nattuggla said:

Not everything being performed at SB will become a hit.  MR clearly was lacking exposure before the Superbowl as radio would not have touched it. But the GP clearly loved it hence it reached #1 on iTunes mulltiple times. But a live performance is limited.... Radio is a much more powerful promo exposure.

I still get the feeling that Joanne (album) could have fared much better outside of the US if people would have known it. MR always got high at iTunes when it got sung in a talent show in my country. Then the album also got a big boost. Unfortunately MR wasn't played in the radio here in Austria...... They supported TC much more.....

I never said that everything performed at the SB will become a hit though. Don't put words into my mouth.

The point is that such exposure can really make or hit a song. And luckily MR benefited from it.

BUT what Gaga really needs is a song that can climb the charts without such promo. Something like New Rules. 

[Runway 27,876]

17 minutes ago, ZacharyMark said:

I've mentioned before that Gaga's team sucks when it comes to rolling out singles. Judas/TEOG, Aura/Sexxx Dreams/DWUW/etc, MR-AYO. Plus PI's rollout was terrible as well. 

Truthfully, in my honest opinion, I don't think Gaga has had a true hit since TEOG. Maybe MR, but I feel like the Super Bowl really pushed it. Gaga needs an organic hit. 

Okay then why isn’t Flopthy selling then? Yoü and I, Applause and DWUW were also hits after TEOG

[ViviLittleM 3]

I'm wondering so many things after that cancellation

I know it might sounds stupid

but

I don't know -if there is one- if I'll be capable to watch that DVD, of that show cancelled twice

Also, I don't know if I'll be capable to listen to new songs;

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TELL THAT but right now I can't even listen to Gaga, it hurts so much.

[ArtGagaPop 61,940]

If only she had radio supporting her and spotify, the only thing she would need to do to have commercial succes is make great music and videos. Promo is great and can help a song take off but it often doesn't give the song any longetivity and just 1 week spikes on the charts meanwhile radio can make the song a hit on it's own. 

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1 minute ago, Runway said:

Okay then why isn’t Flopthy selling then? Yoü and I, Applause and DWUW were also hits after TEOG

You and I is the last. I forgot the order of singles. Applause and DWUW were ok successes, but they weren't songs that became known to the GP. Overall success is what I intend to talk about.

Flopthy isn't selling because people aren't for it, but that doesn't mean the SB makes every song into a hit. I never said it did. BUT it did play a part in getting MR to #4. Without it people wouldn't appreciate it. I just care for a different type of success/rollout for singles. And that's not discrediting the song.

[Ronk 14,762]

1 minute ago, ViviLittleM said:

I'm wondering so many things after that cancellation

I know it might sounds stupid

but

I don't know -if there is one- if I'll be capable to watch that DVD, of that show cancelled twice

Also, I don't know if I'll be capable to listen to new songs;

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TELL THAT but right now I can't even listen to Gaga, it hurts so much.

Even this will pass.

[Runway 27,876]

4 minutes ago, ZacharyMark said:

You and I is the last. I forgot the order of singles. Applause and DWUW were ok successes, but they weren't songs that became known to the GP. Overall success is what I intend to talk about.

Flopthy isn't selling because people aren't for it, but that doesn't mean the SB makes every song into a hit. I never said it did. BUT it did play a part in getting MR to #4. Without it people wouldn't appreciate it. I just care for a different type of success/rollout for singles. And that's not discrediting the song.

How can Applause not be known when it was literally top 10 for 14 weeks and has over 300 million views. DWUW is a minor hit but still big considering it didn’t have a music video. MR rises even with minimal promo, showing people are here for it and is still charting in the top 200 despite being released in 2016

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7 minutes ago, Runway said:

Okay then why isn’t Flopthy selling then? Yoü and I, Applause and DWUW were also hits after TEOG

Would you buy a song called Flopthy?  jk 

[ArtGagaPop 61,940]

6 minutes ago, ZacharyMark said:

You and I is the last. I forgot the order of singles. Applause and DWUW were ok successes, but they weren't songs that became known to the GP. Overall success is what I intend to talk about.

Flopthy isn't selling because people aren't for it, but that doesn't mean the SB makes every song into a hit. I never said it did. BUT it did play a part in getting MR to #4. Without it people wouldn't appreciate it. I just care for a different type of success/rollout for singles. And that's not discrediting the song.

Applause and DWUW is much more known ww then you and i though. I think TEOG, You and I, Applause, DWUW and MR should all be considired hits for her though. the only flops or underpefomrances she have had is G.U.Y, PI and Judas. 

[ViviLittleM 3]

Screaming @ Gaga being the lower

Just outside the top 100, performer and nominee Lady Gaga returns with Joanne (a re-entry at No. 101 with 7,000 units; up 126 percent).

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8098403/grammy-gains-charts-bruno-mars-chris-stapleton

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9 minutes ago, Runway said:

How can Applause not be known when it was literally top 10 for 14 weeks and has over 300 million views. DWUW is a minor hit but still big considering it didn’t have a music video. MR rises even with minimal promo, showing people are here for it

I guess I just underestimate what Applause did. It was the lead single. So maybe. 

But the point of my post.... is that Gaga's team just needs a more consistent way of turning out singles. ARTPOP and Joanne could've achieved so much more if some of the singles had more promo or were given better treatments. We can't rely on the SB or waiting 5 months after releasing The Cure to promote it. That was the overall idea of the response to the OP. Gaga's team doesn't always show a well thought out plan.

6 minutes ago, ArtGagaPop said:

Applause and DWUW is much more known ww then you and i though. I think TEOG, You and I, Applause, DWUW and MR should all be considired hits for her though. the only flops or underpefomrances she have had is G.U.Y, PI and Judas. 

I guess it depends on where you live because TEOG and You and I were much more successful than the others. And I'm pretty sure TEOG did better than DWUW ww. That was my viewpoint. 

However, the point isn't whether they were flops or not. I was responding to a post about Gaga's next era including single rollouts, not success. So I'm not going to talk about what is and isn't successful.

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2018 and there still are people who think Applause wasn't a hit 

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10 minutes ago, ArtGagaPop said:

Applause and DWUW is much more known ww then you and i though. I think TEOG, You and I, Applause, DWUW and MR should all be considired hits for her though. the only flops or underpefomrances she have had is G.U.Y, PI and Judas. 

Even Judas shouldn't be considered on the same level as GUY and PI

I mean it clearly underperformed compared to the success she was used to get but still... it's one of her hits

I strongly think that WW, Judas is much more known than Y&I