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DonnieDarko
1 minute ago, Americano said:

Lol people said that about the meat dress, no one said that ruined her career. stop arguing without numbers in the chart thread if you don’t wanna be taken as a joke 

I did not say it ruined her career. One would think you out of all the members here would be more careful while reading. Also, no need to be rude and tell anyone to stop this or that. Disappointed.

You may disagree, that’s on you. 

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Johncayse
1 minute ago, ryanripley said:

in my opinion, she's nailed it pretty much or almost perfectly with the JWT

the outfits are very gaga yet classy and the INTERLUDES :giveup: they have me shooketh, they're not too over the top just for the sake of shock factor but they still gave me goosebumps 

Still too basic, she needs to do a show on the wall of China :giggle:

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What I love is when people act like there was a time Gaga was universally adored before BTW.

People called her a one hit wonder, a man, an ugly hermaphrodite, talentless, whatever else they could throw at her. She defied it all. Being called a gay artist was hardly the meanest thing she heard. Such an eye roll moment from stan culture that’s delusional and based on nothing.

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Americano
1 minute ago, DonnieDarko said:

I did not say it ruined her career. One would think you out of all the members here would be more careful while reading. Also, no need to be rude and tell anyone to stop this or that. Disappointed.

You may disagree, that’s on you. 

You’re also just wrong. 

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ryanripley
Just now, Johncayse said:

Still too basic, she needs to do a show on the wall of China :giggle:

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isn't she banned from China? :selena: 

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DonnieDarko
2 minutes ago, Americano said:

I’ve been on here since 2009, you don’t need to tell me what people have said about Gaga over the years

And I’ve been a fan since 2008. So that’s that on that. I feel no need to undermine yours input in the stan world just bc I was a fan before you. 

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there are a lot of factors that let her fall from the top of the world
but what done is done, and I truly believe Gaga became a far more superb artist than she was, after all the **** she's been through
she will never stop surprising us , I have faith in her and can't wait for LG6 to bring her back to top:pray:
 

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and her old team didn't deserve her, Bobby>>>>Troy

 

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DonnieDarko
1 minute ago, Americano said:

You’re also just wrong. 

No, that’s my opinion that is based on being here for soooo long and seeing it all and how it unfolded. You just didn’t see it.

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Johncayse
1 minute ago, ryanripley said:

isn't she banned from China? :selena: 

Even better, she would make the show and defy the governor of china at the same time :firega:

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DonnieDarko
Just now, GABEL said:

there are a lot of factors that let her fall from the top of the world
but what done is done, and I truly believe Gaga became a far more superb artist than she was, after all the **** she's been through
she will never stop surprising us , I have faith in her and can't wait for LG6 to bring her back to top:pray:
 

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and her old team didn't deserve her, Bobby>>>>Troy

 

Yes! She’s the best she’s ever been!:wub:

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ryanripley
5 minutes ago, Americano said:

What I love is when people act like there was a time Gaga was universally adored before BTW.

People called her a one hit wonder, a man, an ugly hermaphrodite, talentless, whatever else they could throw at her. She defied it all. Being called a gay artist was hardly the meanest thing she heard. Such an eye roll moment from stan culture that’s delusional and based on nothing.

you're right but being controversial comes at a price! that's the main point that is trying to get across here. the single and era was a success, there's no denying that but she could only "shock" or "offend" for so long until the majority were truly over it and just started ignoring her which is what happened during ARTPOP

but thank god she actually has raw talent which she's been providing since 2014 and her career is back on track and we can focus on the good that is today

the Joanne era was no TFM/BTW number wise but it really had some highs and a lot less downs :sara: 

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ryanripley
1 minute ago, Johncayse said:

Even better, she would make the show and defy the governor of china at the same time :firega:

Joanne (Look What You Made Me Do) / Trumpet Version #1 on LOCK :firega: 

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1 minute ago, DonnieDarko said:

No, that’s my opinion that is based on being here for soooo long and seeing it all and how it unfolded. You just didn’t see it.

Gaga fans also hated DITD at the BRITs in 2010. So, nope, again your GGD expertise doesn’t stand against Billboard receipt collections. :gaycat:

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Americano
1 minute ago, ryanripley said:

you're right but being controversial comes at a price! the single and era was a success, there's no denying that but she could only "shock" or "offend" for so long until the majority were truly over it and just started ignoring her which is what happened during ARTPOP

but thank god she actually has raw talent which she's been providing since 2014 and her career is back on track and we can focus on the good that is today

the Joanne era was no TFM/BTW number wise but it really had some highs and a lot less downs :sara: 

I agree 

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ArtGagaPop
3 minutes ago, ryanripley said:

in my opinion, she's nailed it pretty much or almost perfectly with the JWT

the outfits are very gaga yet classy and the INTERLUDES :giveup: they have me shooketh, they're not too over the top just for the sake of shock factor but they still gave me goosebumps 

yep i think she nailed the era pretty perfectly, she is still the crazy gaga we love, but she ballance it out with other things and the things she does doesn't feel like it's just there for the shock factor anymore. Superbowl was amazing, highlighed all her songs in a good way, felt epic and very gaga but still freindly for everyone. VS john wayne, Coachella (espsecially the intro interlude), the tour and more were good exampels how she can do crazy but still don't offend people with it. Then there is talentga slaying all the MR peformances but still chaning it up every time, for a ballad :giveup:

This era i just such a perfect step in her career and i hope she will keep it going in this direction in the future. 

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