Zombiecat 16,680 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 3 hours ago, MonsterOfSpain said: Yes, Barcelona's show was absolutely packed so it was definitely sold out. Also do I need to post pictures from the Tokyo crowds? That doesn't look like artrave? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallywally 626 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 8 hours ago, Unbeweavable said: That doesn't look like artrave? It doesnt even look like Barcelona. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombiecat 16,680 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, scallywally said: It doesnt even look like Barcelona. Probs because said pic was meant to be Tokyo It looks like Tokyo but more like a stock pic of the arena not artrave's crowd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallywally 626 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Oh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckles 2,549 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 22 hours ago, little legend said: My concert was :27k out of 75k She probably wont ever come back to Greece A stadium in Athens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckles 2,549 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Unbeweavable said: Probs because said pic was meant to be Tokyo It looks like Tokyo but more like a stock pic of the arena not artrave's crowd We should have a FLOP reply/like button Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 On 12/28/2017 at 8:35 PM, Arturo said: According to what Live Nation reported it was 99.6% sold out there was only 1 non sold out show. However Live Nation kinda Witness the Tour’d her receipts. No artRAVE show performed as badly as how every Witness show is doing except maybe 1 however Gaga didn’t actually sell out a lot the US shows. Look at the attendances she pulled for JWT and then compare it to the attendance she had for the artRave in the same arenas and you can see that artRave could not have possibly been sold out. here’s one of many examples: JWT St Paul 16.6k (100% sold) artRAVE St Paul 10k (100% “sold”) Same arena One has to account for the fact that simply because an artist plays at the same venue, doesn’t mean the same number of tickets are actually put on sale. Her team undoubtedly put less tickets on sale, sold those tickets, thus allowing it to be considered sold out. The Exel Energy Center’s capacity is 18,568, which is far more than both JWT and artRAVE were selling. You also have to account for the fact that scalpers and bots buy tickets up front, and resell them for more, which people don’t want to do. Taylor Swift changed her method for ticket sales for her current tour to avoid this. 22 hours ago, Alexander Levi said: I was at the St. Paul show! Seemed completely full but I was also pretty drunk That means you saw me half naked on the Jumbotron when Gaga took my Bowie T-shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
little legend 0 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, Chuckles said: A stadium in Athens? What do you mean? Do you try to shade Athens? Cause if yes, then you failed cause Athens has one of the biggest stadiums of Europe(Olympic Stadium) and many other stadiums and its the 5th biggest city of Europe So dont ever try to shade my home city and one of the most iconic cities of the world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Doot said: One has to account for the fact that simply because an artist plays at the same venue, doesn’t mean the same number of tickets are actually put on sale. Her team undoubtedly put less tickets on sale, sold those tickets, thus allowing it to be considered sold out. The Exel Energy Center’s capacity is 18,568, which is far more than both JWT and artRAVE were selling. You also have to account for the fact that scalpers and bots buy tickets up front, and resell them for more, which people don’t want to do. Taylor Swift changed her method for ticket sales for her current tour to avoid this. That means you saw me half naked on the Jumbotron when Gaga took my Bowie T-shirt. The Xcel Energy Center's capacity is 15k - 16k for end-stage concerts. Evidence: Gaga JWT 16.6k (seats sold behind stage) Bruno 24k Magic 16.3k (seats sold behind stage) JT 20/20 Exp 15k Ed Divide Tour 15k Anything severely under 15k for an end stage concert at the Xcel Energy Center is just not sold out. That 18k number is not for end stage concerts. That's why users on here always assumed Gaga's JWT shows weren't sold out because they'd look up those max capacities and be like OMG IT'S NOT 20K PEOPLE!! when in reality there aren't taking into account that it's an end-stage concert, like most current pop concerts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, Arturo said: The Xcel Energy Center's capacity is 15k - 16k for end-stage concerts. Evidence: Gaga JWT 16.6k (seats sold behind stage) Bruno 24k Magic 16.3k (seats sold behind stage) JT 20/20 Exp 15k Ed Divide Tour 15k Anything severely under 15k for an end stage concert at the Xcel Energy Center is just not sold out. That 18k number is not for end stage concerts. That's why users on here always assumed Gaga's JWT shows weren't sold out because they'd look up those max capacities and be like OMG IT'S NOT 20K PEOPLE!! when in reality there aren't taking into account that it's an end-stage concert, like most current pop concerts. Shooketh. Well the number of tickets that goes on sale still stands. Bobby said this during this tour with a fan asked. Fire Marshall determines how many tickets can be sold, not the venue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Doot said: One has to account for the fact that simply because an artist plays at the same venue, doesn’t mean the same number of tickets are actually put on sale. Her team undoubtedly put less tickets on sale, sold those tickets, thus allowing it to be considered sold out. The Exel Energy Center’s capacity is 18,568, which is far more than both JWT and artRAVE were selling. You also have to account for the fact that scalpers and bots buy tickets up front, and resell them for more, which people don’t want to do. Taylor Swift changed her method for ticket sales for her current tour to avoid this. That means you saw me half naked on the Jumbotron when Gaga took my Bowie T-shirt. Oh my gosh! Small world! Well I’ll be In St Paul next week for Lana Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallywally 626 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Doot said: One has to account for the fact that simply because an artist plays at the same venue, doesn’t mean the same number of tickets are actually put on sale. Her team undoubtedly put less tickets on sale, sold those tickets, thus allowing it to be considered sold out. The Exel Energy Center’s capacity is 18,568, which is far more than both JWT and artRAVE were selling. You also have to account for the fact that scalpers and bots buy tickets up front, and resell them for more, which people don’t want to do. Taylor Swift changed her method for ticket sales for her current tour to avoid this. That means you saw me half naked on the Jumbotron when Gaga took my Bowie T-shirt. Yes Taylor, Adele, and Ed changed their methods. Seems to have (for the most part) worked. Some artists have been caught not even putting tix on sale and straight to re-sale for more money. (Even whole blocks). Robbie Williams was caught. The ticket ranges were from cheap to expensive, some if not all of the cheap tickets didn't even go on sale! Straight to verified re-sellers for a lot more. Madonna had a 'bring your card and id to the venue'. Not that security checked much but it puts people off spending too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Alexander Levi said: Oh my gosh! Small world! Omg does that mean you remember 1 hour ago, Alexander Levi said: Well I’ll be In St Paul next week for Lana Don’t sleep and drive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckles 2,549 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 14 hours ago, little legend said: What do you mean? Do you try to shade Athens? Cause if yes, then you failed cause Athens has one of the biggest stadiums of Europe(Olympic Stadium) and many other stadiums and its the 5th biggest city of Europe So dont ever try to shade my home city and one of the most iconic cities of the world I was shading Gaga's team dear. I actually love Athens and Greece as a country, still in my bucket list. Plus I would never doubt that the country that gave birth to the Olympics would not have such landmarks. Spoiler Your dog gets a follow btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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