Irrelevant 20,282 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Just now, Sharyu said: This is full of hypocrites. They want a female artist to succeed, but only if it's Gaga. I don't know why peiple hate on Taylor when both Gaga and Taylor are great friends. They hate on Taylor because they hate her music, or they think she's petty. These are pretty valid reasons imo 광야로 걸어가 알아 네 home ground Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argentum 1,680 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 No. But I think she is the embodiment of a starbucks cup in human form. "Δεν είσαι αγάπη. Δεν είσαι αγάπη. Είσαι οφθαλμαπάτη. Η τέλεια οφθαλμαπάτη" - Λαίδη Γκάγκα, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseymonster 424 Posted December 22, 2017 Author Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Sailor said: Well, by definition, music is an art form, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's artistic. ARTPOP's concept was very clear. It was about combining artistic conception with pop music (though I personally think she wanted to go down a more experimental route with the music itself but was unable to for reasons). To compare any of Taylor Swift's albums with ARTPOP would be a joke. Taylor just sings about boys and living in the 1980s. At least Gaga has always had concept. Right...It was mainly about sex...and being a performer...nothing that artistic struck me there at all. Born thsi wat was by far more superior (experimental/artistry wise) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseymonster 424 Posted December 22, 2017 Author Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Irrelevant said: They hate on Taylor because they hate her music, or they think she's petty. These are pretty valid reasons imo How does she sell so much if everyone hates her?! How does she tour stadiums? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor 3,321 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Just now, caseymonster said: Right...It was mainly about sex...and being a performer...nothing that artistic struck me there at all. Born thsi wat was by far more superior (experimental/artistry wise) I think ARTPOP was more about visuals than music, personally. Gaga was more into performance art at that point, and I almost feel like she was forced to promote it. That's not to say the music was meaningless, though. Do your research and you'll find a lot of conception within the songs. Born This Way was definitely more experimental, but ARTPOP was a turning point for her. A reminder to us all that she values her creative worth over sales and mainstream relevance, a goal all singers should strive for if they want to become as legendary. bannedT for life and it's SAD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant 20,282 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, caseymonster said: Hmm She completely changed genres? A couple times already. And not just for one era by wearing a hat and a crop top. Gaga us the same at the tour as she was. Taylor went from country and got grammy for that effort. To freaking glossy over the top high notch production pop (glossier than gagas) Taylor was already country pop for a long time, the genre change was nowhere as sudden as Gagas. Also reputation has bad production imo, very generic and recycled, NOT glossy. 광야로 걸어가 알아 네 home ground Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipthistea 21,099 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, caseymonster said: Hmm She completely changed genres? A couple times already. And not just for one era by wearing a hat and a crop top. Gaga us the same at the tour as she was. Taylor went from country and got grammy for that effort. To freaking glossy over the top high notch production pop (glossier than gagas) I'm sorry, but that's not risktaking. She literally went from the safest genre in the US to the safest genre in the world, so she appeals to everyone with her catchy pop songs. She's worked with Max Martin (the safest hit maker ever) on her pop albums, and hasn't really gone too far with her song production/themes like other artists (Like Gaga, who literally gave up her massive appeal by talking about social issues in BTW) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 76,567 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 I think she's good at garnering attention and making cute, catchy pop songs. She does have a certain influence that only some other pop stars have, but I mean other than that, I wouldn't go as far as to call her the "embodiment of pop." And if I'm being honest, I believe that a lot of her music is superficial. Maybe it's just my preconceived notions of her or something, but when like 90% of your best-known songs are based on breakups, it's like, girl, you need to start doing something more. I also feel like she doesn't have much of a perspective on stuff. She seems to stay quiet most of the times unless something is directly pertaining to her. 𝔊𝔬𝔬𝔡𝔟𝔶𝔢, ℑ'𝔩𝔩 𝔰𝔢𝔢 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔦𝔫 𝔪𝔶 𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔪𝔰 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant 20,282 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, caseymonster said: How does she sell so much if everyone hates her?! How does she tour stadiums? Because she has a rabid stanbase lmao. Plus nowhere in my post did I state everybody hates her, I only stated the reason people hate her. 9 minutes ago, caseymonster said: Right...It was mainly about sex...and being a performer...nothing that artistic struck me there at all. Born thsi wat was by far more superior (experimental/artistry wise) It still has a concept, I can't find it but there are plenty of analyses from users here. Reputation is about love, feuds and breakups, and only like 3 songs connected with the title. 광야로 걸어가 알아 네 home ground Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 17 minutes ago, caseymonster said: Hmm She completely changed genres? A couple times already. And not just for one era by wearing a hat and a crop top. Gaga us the same at the tour as she was. Taylor went from country and got grammy for that effort. To freaking glossy over the top high notch production pop (glossier than gagas) How is working with Max Martin and Jack Antonoff and collaborating with Ed Sheeran risk taking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant 20,282 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 15 minutes ago, Argentum said: No. But I think she is the embodiment of a starbucks cup in human form. That would be ariana grande 광야로 걸어가 알아 네 home ground Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZephyrInTheSky 1,235 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Shes just very smart and knows what works for her, shes relatable to white girls etc. Same as Ed Sheeran. Shes also not offensive or too sexual so that makes her more marketable. Her and Max Martin = success. I think im slowly becoming a fan tbh. I dont want to but shes everywhere. There can be 99 bottoms in the area but all it takes is 1 top to believe in you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Life 118,907 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 No wonder pop is screwed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Salas 973 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Nah, she doesn't have a cultural impact, go ask Madonna. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea B 16,750 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 43 minutes ago, Royksopp said: it still doesn't mean that any of her songs are any good. sis.... even gaga has said that she likes her music. All too well its a well-written song and one of the best, new years day, call it what you want, etc SHE HAS TONS of good music Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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