Why Xtina's singles peaked so low?

[ThisGuyTony 30,698]

Radio play I believe.

[StrawberryBlond 14,873]

Thing is, there's some artists who sell singles, some who sell albums and the rare ones who can do both. Xtina was just never a big single seller, even back when music sold. Some artists are just like that. Their fans just prefer waiting to buy their complete album. You'll notice fans of older artists or artists who have an old fanbase are like that. Older people don't care about the singles (they don't care about chart performance like young people do), they just want the album. That's why you don't see singers like Michael Buble, Shania Twain, Mariah Carey, etc. at the top of the charts with their singles. That's why the likes of Adele only had one huge hit with 25 because her fans just want that album and they'll only support the lead single at most. 21 was different because that was her massive breakout when interest for her was at an all-time high. Xtina pulled in an older fanbase with Back to Basics which I think meant her future as a singles seller was going to be in even more danger.

5 hours ago, RAMROD said:

I was living as high school teenager at that era, and honestly, aside from MTV, I rarely heard them played on the radio. The radio favored Hip hop, Rap, and Rock music more at that time. And at school, you would not want to be obvious that you are stanning for them or you will be laughed at or even bullied. These genre of music are only heard by some teenage girls and little kids.

Yep, same here. Although the British music scene was obviously a bit different, but it's the same equivalent. Once The Spice Girls became uncool, no one would dare to admit they liked them. Even among other girls, saying you liked Britney got a bit of a hot and cold reaction, so I just never confessed. My friends thought Avril was an embarassing poser at that time, so I kept that quiet too. Xtina was being raunchy at the time and she was huge in the UK with Stripped, which automatically made her cool, though, so she was a safer bet and I would also say Destiny's Child, they always went over well. It was the in thing to say that you were into rap and hip hop but pop was becoming really cheesy and tired at that point, so best kept quiet.

You're so right when you say that this genre is music is actually heard by a very small percentage of the population. That's why Britney only had one US #1 single until 2009 (Xtina has only had 3 her entire career). Even today, you'll notice that 1D never got a #1 single in the US despite them having so many devoted fans - radio just simply wasn't playing them because they didn't want that type of music on the airwaves. So, it was completely up to their fans to get them anywhere on the charts purely through sales (not even streaming at the time). Fifth Harmony also only have one top ten hit in America which is shocking. Adults don't want this type of music becoming popular, so they ensure they don't promote it, it's that simple. Unless you've got mega payloa like Katy or Taylor, you're not going to get far. And once you've hit 30, regardless of payola, you're toast.

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1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Thing is, there's some artists who sell singles, some who sell albums and the rare ones who can do both. Xtina was just never a big single seller, even back when music sold. Some artists are just like that. Their fans just prefer waiting to buy their complete album. You'll notice fans of older artists or artists who have an old fanbase are like that. Older people don't care about the singles (they don't care about chart performance like young people do), they just want the album. That's why you don't see singers like Michael Buble, Shania Twain, Mariah Carey, etc. at the top of the charts with their singles. That's why the likes of Adele only had one huge hit with 25 because her fans just want that album and they'll only support the lead single at most. 21 was different because that was her massive breakout when interest for her was at an all-time high. Xtina pulled in an older fanbase with Back to Basics which I think meant her future as a singles seller was going to be in even more danger.

Yep, same here. Although the British music scene was obviously a bit different, but it's the same equivalent. Once The Spice Girls became uncool, no one would dare to admit they liked them. Even among other girls, saying you liked Britney got a bit of a hot and cold reaction, so I just never confessed. My friends thought Avril was an embarassing poser at that time, so I kept that quiet too. Xtina was being raunchy at the time and she was huge in the UK with Stripped, which automatically made her cool, though, so she was a safer bet and I would also say Destiny's Child, they always went over well. It was the in thing to say that you were into rap and hip hop but pop was becoming really cheesy and tired at that point, so best kept quiet.

You're so right when you say that this genre is music is actually heard by a very small percentage of the population. That's why Britney only had one US #1 single until 2009 (Xtina has only had 3 her entire career). Even today, you'll notice that 1D never got a #1 single in the US despite them having so many devoted fans - radio just simply wasn't playing them because they didn't want that type of music on the airwaves. So, it was completely up to their fans to get them anywhere on the charts purely through sales (not even streaming at the time). Fifth Harmony also only have one top ten hit in America which is shocking. Adults don't want this type of music becoming popular, so they ensure they don't promote it, it's that simple. Unless you've got mega payloa like Katy or Taylor, you're not going to get far. And once you've hit 30, regardless of payola, you're toast.

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[Anderson123 38,431]

Hmm I think MTV used to play a big part on what we listened to back in the day. I remember waiting for Britney's Oops I Did It Again music video to air because I loved it and it was always #1 on those Top 20 music video lists, same with Backstreet Boys and Blink 182.

If you look at Britney's Hot 100 singles, you'd see that both Toxic and Oops peaked at #9 and Slave 4 U at #27. But then again, charts and awards don't always make legends, just look at Bowie, Queen and so many great artists and bands that have solidified as icons yet Katy Perry has more #1 singles today. It doesn't really make that much sense to me.

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6 minutes ago, Alan123 said:

Hmm I think MTV used to play a big part on what we listened to back in the day. I remember waiting for Britney's Oops I Did It Again music video to air because I loved it and it was always #1 on those Top 20 music video lists, same with Backstreet Boys and Blink 182.

If you look at Britney's Hot 100 singles, you'd see that both Toxic and Oops peaked at #9 and Slave 4 U at #27. But then again, charts and awards don't always make legends, just look at Bowie, Queen and so many great artists and bands that have solidified as icons yet Katy Perry has more #1 singles today. It doesn't really make that much sense to me.

Most groops(aside from the generic, mainstream ones such as Maroon 5 and Colplay) embrace their album sales, cuz there's the money and at the time an album was considered a piece of art, unlike nowadays when everyone throws random singles and collabs left and right praying to have a hit and get their 5 minutes of fame. Britney, Bowie and most of the pres 00s artists also embraced their albums and treated them as special. I think music nowadays is so boring and artists come and go, cuz now one does music for the sake of it and everyone jumps on the mainstream and trendy sounds just to have a hit, with few exceptions offcourse.

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13 minutes ago, brit4ever said:

Most groops(aside from the generic, mainstream ones such as Maroon 5 and Colplay) embrace their album sales, cuz there's the money and at the time an album was considered a piece of art, unlike nowadays when everyone throws random singles and collabs left and right praying to have a hit and get their 5 minutes of fame. Britney, Bowie and most of the pres 00s artists also embraced their albums and treated them as special. I think music nowadays is so boring and artists come and go, cuz now one does music for the sake of it and everyone jumps on the mainstream and trendy sounds just to have a hit, with few exceptions offcourse.

why was Britney banned in radio from 2001-2004? i want to know 

[Married the Night 3,955]

10 hours ago, GagaInTheZone said:

Not during the Oops! era. The ban started with I'm Slave 4 U. It's a mistery to me that Oops! only peaked at #9

Why was she banned??

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1 minute ago, MarlonBrando7 said:

why was Britney banned in radio from 2001-2004? i want to know 

Idk, but I think it has something with the Dream Within a Dream Tour.

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@MarlonBrando7 @Married the Night

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When the DWAD tour was being planned, ClearChannel Communications offered to sponsor it for a cut of the profits in return. Britney was having her lucrative deal with Pepsi who wanted to sponsor the tour, and Jive decided to go with them. ClearChannel got angry and told all the radio stations they owned, which was like most of it, to blacklist Britney. Slave had already been released and stalled at 27. All the other singles flopped in The US.

When the Onyx Hotel Tour was being planned, ClearChannel again approached Jive and offered its services, and Jive said yes. MATM was out by then and had a troubled run, stalling even lower than Slave, but once the tour started Britney had radio support again, AND her blockbuster Toxic was the first song to get the benefit of full radio support since, and the people LOVED the song too. Everytime also did well.

If you ask me, that was HANDS-DOWN the worst mistake of Britney's career. Before that, BOMT shipped 14 million in the States and OIDIA sold 10 million. Britney had two diamond albums and a fantastic reputation under her belt. Her third album sold purely on the strength of Slave alone, and her reputation as a performer. The album got 4 million in the US. It coincided with the advent of illegal downloading, but if Britney had been given a proper chance, she would have sold way higher, maybe 7 or 8 million, AND in result, ITZ (and maybe even Blackout and Circus) would have all sold just a little bit higher than they have now.

 

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Britney got banned on radio from late 2001 because ClearChannel asked Jive to let them be a sponsor for the Dream Within A Dream Tour and Jive told them they were going with AEG. ClearChannel got pissed off and banned Britney from being played on the radio in retaliation. This lasted from 2001 to 2003, meaning that the singles from Overprotected to Me Against The Music weren't allowed to be played. Slave was getting airplay, but was blacklisted halfway through, which is why it stopped rising on the Billboard Charts and peaked at #27

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, monster987 said:

Idk, but I think it has something with the Dream Within a Dream Tour.

 

5 minutes ago, MarlonBrando7 said:

why was Britney banned in radio from 2001-2004? i want to know 

Her team had to choose between Pepsi and Clear Channel who to sponsor DWAD Tour and they chose Pepsi, Clear Channel got butthurt and banned Britney on all of their radio stations(and that's like 90% of all the stations in the USA). The bann was lifted when Clear Channel was chosen to support the Onyx Hotel Tour in 2004. 

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2 minutes ago, monster987 said:

@MarlonBrando7 @Married the Night

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When the DWAD tour was being planned, ClearChannel Communications offered to sponsor it for a cut of the profits in return. Britney was having her lucrative deal with Pepsi who wanted to sponsor the tour, and Jive decided to go with them. ClearChannel got angry and told all the radio stations they owned, which was like most of it, to blacklist Britney. Slave had already been released and stalled at 27. All the other singles flopped in The US.

When the Onyx Hotel Tour was being planned, ClearChannel again approached Jive and offered its services, and Jive said yes. MATM was out by then and had a troubled run, stalling even lower than Slave, but once the tour started Britney had radio support again, AND her blockbuster Toxic was the first song to get the benefit of full radio support since, and the people LOVED the song too. Everytime also did well.

If you ask me, that was HANDS-DOWN the worst mistake of Britney's career. Before that, BOMT shipped 14 million in the States and OIDIA sold 10 million. Britney had two diamond albums and a fantastic reputation under her belt. Her third album sold purely on the strength of Slave alone, and her reputation as a performer. The album got 4 million in the US. It coincided with the advent of illegal downloading, but if Britney had been given a proper chance, she would have sold way higher, maybe 7 or 8 million, AND in result, ITZ (and maybe even Blackout and Circus) would have all sold just a little bit higher than they have now.

 

Quote:

Britney got banned on radio from late 2001 because ClearChannel asked Jive to let them be a sponsor for the Dream Within A Dream Tour and Jive told them they were going with AEG. ClearChannel got pissed off and banned Britney from being played on the radio in retaliation. This lasted from 2001 to 2003, meaning that the singles from Overprotected to Me Against The Music weren't allowed to be played. Slave was getting airplay, but was blacklisted halfway through, which is why it stopped rising on the Billboard Charts and peaked at #27

 

 

 

Source: ATRL

i was in the same page before you quote me 

thanks anyway

[Lucas 27,091]

7 hours ago, Born To Slay said:

Didn't Britney limit the number physical singles at the time so that people would buy her album? 

Oh yes I remember this story. I look on Google and it says that Oops! and Lucky got no physical release/was released in limited numbers 

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32 minutes ago, monster987 said:

@MarlonBrando7 @Married the Night

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When the DWAD tour was being planned, ClearChannel Communications offered to sponsor it for a cut of the profits in return. Britney was having her lucrative deal with Pepsi who wanted to sponsor the tour, and Jive decided to go with them. ClearChannel got angry and told all the radio stations they owned, which was like most of it, to blacklist Britney. Slave had already been released and stalled at 27. All the other singles flopped in The US.

When the Onyx Hotel Tour was being planned, ClearChannel again approached Jive and offered its services, and Jive said yes. MATM was out by then and had a troubled run, stalling even lower than Slave, but once the tour started Britney had radio support again, AND her blockbuster Toxic was the first song to get the benefit of full radio support since, and the people LOVED the song too. Everytime also did well.

If you ask me, that was HANDS-DOWN the worst mistake of Britney's career. Before that, BOMT shipped 14 million in the States and OIDIA sold 10 million. Britney had two diamond albums and a fantastic reputation under her belt. Her third album sold purely on the strength of Slave alone, and her reputation as a performer. The album got 4 million in the US. It coincided with the advent of illegal downloading, but if Britney had been given a proper chance, she would have sold way higher, maybe 7 or 8 million, AND in result, ITZ (and maybe even Blackout and Circus) would have all sold just a little bit higher than they have now.

 

Quote:

Britney got banned on radio from late 2001 because ClearChannel asked Jive to let them be a sponsor for the Dream Within A Dream Tour and Jive told them they were going with AEG. ClearChannel got pissed off and banned Britney from being played on the radio in retaliation. This lasted from 2001 to 2003, meaning that the singles from Overprotected to Me Against The Music weren't allowed to be played. Slave was getting airplay, but was blacklisted halfway through, which is why it stopped rising on the Billboard Charts and peaked at #27

 

 

 

Source: ATRL

Poor thing. Thank you!

[PeterPan 0]

I dont remember Britney being banned on radio im pretty sure i heard her on radio between 2001-2004

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19 minutes ago, PeterPan said:

I dont remember Britney being banned on radio im pretty sure i heard her on radio between 2001-2004

Are u from the US? Because I think she was only banned on the US radios.