Woman with Burqa beats up woman because she sells Bikinis in Berlin

[tthen 4,621]

7 hours ago, benKo said:

Islam itself doesn't require a burqa or a headscarf. A few years ago, it even was forbidden to wear it in Turkey (til Erdogan arrived ) and it is now forbidden to sell them in Morocco.

I don't understand how you can still allow them in Germany. It's a law to not hide your face with masks or other things, but somehow they justify it with freedom of religion, even if it's not required by the religion itself...

Also: You can't make generalizations. In both directions. I know many muslims who perfectly adjusted to western culture, and I know many who didn't. And they who didn't are too much. There are families who can't even speak german after living in Germany for 10 years or more, who don't have a real job and treat their women like 100 years ago. These are not rare cases. It's quite often.

Then we have the terror wich is spreading all around europe. Almost all of them were muslims. That's because they take their holy book too literal, don't adapt to modern society and are radicalised by extremists. This terror has to do with islam. With the traditional islam, wich lots of modern people don't practice anymore. They are still muslim, but live it in a civilized way, wich everyone should tolerate.

I think we should ban headscarfs and burqas, ban child marriages (wich is somehow still possible), we should control who comes in our land and only take those in who really need our help. And we have to work at integrating those people and get them work, so that they can earn their own money and don't just get one child after another to live off of child benefits,

But everyone who wants this, is apparently a Nazi today... 

I won't argue with banning niqabs (there's a difference people) and I'm definitely 100% for banning child marriage  (which I assume already is), but banning headscarves is too extreme. Also headscarves are still being sold in Morocco and many women chose to wear them. It wasn't forbidden in Turkey either (it was forbidden from schools and universities, but that's it) Some people think that they're required because the word hijab was never completely defined. Hijab is an arabic word for covering. Both men and women have hijabs, but the word is commonly used to describe a woman's headscarf.

[TimisaMonster 31,073]

Truly a Reverse Islamaphobian Experience 

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Versus said:

it absolutely did say something wrong it's islamophobia

but thank you for outing yourself as an islamophobe too

ur so progressive and woke, Godspeed. Religion in the modern world definitely makes it a better place to live; keep the support alive 

[Henri Bardot 3,990]

religion is garbage

[Gagaplayer315 14,668]

The religion of peace strikes again 

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5 hours ago, SFDMQ said:

I know i'm not a good representatives of Islam. everyone makes mistakes and people change. but u shouldnt judge a religion by its followers solely. because not every Muslims are bad. Not every Christians are bad. u shouldnt generalize an idea based on what u only see

Im not judging the religion, Im judging religious people like yourself that choose what they want to listen to. 

[StrawberryBlond 15,569]

3 hours ago, lego said:

Wow you are extremely biased even if you claim you don't identify as Christian. Just because you don't see, it doesn't mean it never happens, I have witnessed  many times, zealous Christian women (and men) trying to shove their religion down people's throats, whether they're atheist or Muslim or Jewish. It all starts with "do you know Jesus..." and then it gets aggressive. If you haven't seen it in Daily Mail, trust me, it happens and it isn't that rare.

Again. Religion is not a person, it's not even practiced the same way in two different cities, let alone in different continents. I can't believe someone with religious studies would write such a thing, "you can't deny..." seriously... and Christians committing crimes is very rare, but for Muslims it's very high... what??

"It isn't even native to my country"... that says it all, doesn't it? You do know Christianity originated from Middle East, right? It's not a "European religion". 

You do know that a white Briton can rape and be aggressive criminal and still claim to love his country and fight for its culture. You are acting as if all British men have huge respect for women and there's no such thing as high domestic violence and sexual assault among the white natives.

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have to add something;

when you are constantly fed by the media with headlines like these

 

and you never notice cases like these

 

no wonder you have distorted image of reality. No wonder you think "these foreign people with foreign religion do more crimes than any other group". It's just sad to read that from someone who claims to be an intellectual.

I don't live in the American deep South, though, so I don't know the full extent of it. But I certainly don't experience it round these parts because religion has never been encouraged to be part of the daily life of my locals. Apart from the Jehovah's Witnesses who still come round the door after several years (the same women, into the bargain), I don't see anyone even talk about their personal religion because we don't live our lives by it round here. I accept it's different elsewhere but I'm just describing my experiences, just as you are describing yours. And the Daily Mail doesn't just report of negative stories involving non-whites, you know. Like most newspapers, they talk about all news and don't put a personal slant into the mere reporting of a story (that's saved for opinion pieces, where they belong). I don't judge people for the newspaper they read, I wouldn't dream of being that shallow.

Religion may be a constantly shifting discourse but that doesn't mean it doesn't have basic fundamental values. I don't understand why different countries and continents should practice it differently. I believe consistency is key. I know that it's very controversial to start a sentence with "you can't deny Muslims commit the most crimes" but can I ask, how many white Christians do you see committing religiously motivated crimes, or even just committing crimes? Most of the time, when a white person has committed a crime, they have no religion (fitting, as someone religious shouldn't be committing crimes). That's why I don't get why people complain about "why don't people talk about all the Christians committing crimes?" because most white criminals have no religion. At most, they came from a religious family but don't follow their families beliefs. I think some people are assuming that white = Christian, which is a problem in and of itself. I apologise if I sound a bit more controversial but when I've spent the past few days reading story after story of immigrants attacking European locals and how women across continental Europe have been advised by the police not to go out at night because they'll get raped, it somehow makes me more likely to ask what the hell is going on and why we're allowing this.

Of course Christianity originated in the middle east but its been the most popular national religion of my country for centuries. I think that's long enough to consider it native, right? Religions aren't native in the same way that people are.

Of course white British males are doing the same horrible things yet claim that migrants are ruining the country. That is one of the big tragedies of it all. I've been calling out hypocrisy from the beginning. But consider this - British women get beaten up and raped by men enough as it is. 80k a year get raped and many more sexually assaulted. So, as if that isn't enough, people from other countries (countries where women are treated as second class citizens and sexism is rife) are allowed to come into this country, without background checks, where they run the risk of assaulting us some more. White women get mistreated enough by their fellow white men. But that's nothing compared to how certain Muslim men see us as pieces of meat who are here for one thing, that a white woman, especially if unveiled, is a wh*re by definition. Just imagine being a woman for a moment and image how scared that makes you feel. But I'm slowly learning in this current landscape that white women aren't being believed, they get accused of exaggerating and lying. That we're natural whiners and spoiled brats or something. Even my own family don't listen to me a lot of the time. How do I expect anyone else to? I wouldn't mind living in this fictional utopia where white women get believed, just for a little while.

True, sometimes, certain news outlets can sensationalise stuff, to sell papers or to feed into who they think is their audience. But does that take away from the fact that these negative stories are true? That religion is feeding these criminals? That they are raised on racist stereotypes of white women and how they deserve to be treated? It shocks me how so many white people don't want to address these obvious issues. It's like I said above, they show disregard for even their own women, unless they know them personally. Of course there are decent Muslims who show the true compassion of their religion but it doesn't erase the many who don't. It's funny, Gaga got so much hate for starting that #ThisIsNotUs hashtag because white people are made to believe that yes, all of us are the problem. Yet, whites are supposed to immediately accept the assertion that not all Muslims are bad when a negative story about them emerges? Double standards. Again, just looking for consistency. What I want to see is the decent Muslims starting a protest and go marching down the street proclaiming that ISIS and migrant attacks on locals is not in their name. I saw a tiny little bit of a stand taken after the knife attack in London recently but I've not seen a full on protest as of yet.

I don't have a distorted image of reality. I just don't believe in mindlessly supporting everyone without question. I'm a realist. I look at the facts and logic. That's what intellectual discussion involves. Pardon me if I'm highly emotional after reading the umpteenth "migrant assault" story. Europe never used to be this unsafe and Britain never used to have a terrorist incident every other week. I'm feeling scared to live in my own country these days and while I don't think the solution is to ban all immigrants, restrictions must be applied. For one thing, Britain is full and bursting at the seams. Our locals are struggling to get a house and yet we let anyone into this country and give them a house upon entry? We're a small nation and we can't handle an open door system any longer.

2 hours ago, JourneyToAvalon said:

Well, then virtually any sentence can have sinister undertones.  My point is I didn't mean it that way, if anyone misinterprets it, it's not really my problem. I accept that not everyone will understand me and I don't feel it's my job to explain to them if they didn't, I'm not a teacher.

I told him to post nicer things  because there are mostly negative threads about GGD on Islam (which I understand why) and you're saying I told him to actually remove those negative threads because apparently I want people to ignore the bad parts of Islam (which he can't actually do). Look, I'm not trying to start a discussion here. I said what I had to say, if you don't understand, it's fine.

And I don't even know how the 3rd paragraph is relevant to the things I said (I'm not even like that so...) but you don't have to explain, I'd rather not talk about this further. Good day!

Well, I appreciate that you replied anyway and were civil, so thank you.

2 hours ago, SFDMQ said:

so a lot of people have been taking this p*rn thing that I said completely out of context. i wasn't trying to brag about how I love watching p*rn. it was just a joke that i often use with my friends when i tend to forget things a lot. not more than that. but it is clearly my fault tho, and I hope you guys could understand that i'm not a native speaker (but i was trying hard to sound like one) and sometimes my way of saying things are a little bit different.

 

yes you are right on this one. i might not be good enough to call myself as a Muslim but not every Muslims are like me. also, being committed to a religion is an extremely hard thing to do. but the whole reason why i even bother to write a comment on this thread is because i feel like people out there really need to know about Islam and respect it as a religion. i cant stand when people were hating so much on a religion because of its followers. it's like hating America because of Trump. yes Trump is the president of the United States but he doesn't represent America.

Yes, commitment to religion is extremely hard which is why you should only enter into it if you feel you can handle it. Refusing temptation is the biggest part of any religion, so if you can't do that, religion isn't for you. I have no problem respecting Islam as long as its followers remain peaceful and live their lives according to modern society's decency standards. I think hating a religion's followers is a bit different to hating a country's people, though. People choose to follow a religion, so therefore, you judge them if they follow beliefs that aren't in line with yours. But people don't choose the country they're born and raised in, so judging a country for its people is less acceptable.

1 hour ago, lego said:

This is like saying Gaga shouldn't call herself Catholic and do all those things. Would you tell that to her?

In fact, is it nice thing to condescendingly tell to someone how they should identify?  Isn't that personal?

Well, actually, yes, I am surprised that Gaga calls herself Catholic considering how she's lived her life (Lana as well - even I feel I bit wary singing those lines about God being dead and suchlike on Gods and Monsters and I don't even identify as Catholic like her). There's nothing stopping her from believing in God but the Catholic title just isn't accurate. I probably wouldn't say this to her outright as questioning someone's faith and how they practice it can be very rude. But there's a way of going about in in a general way.

I'm not so much telling people how to identify so much as pointing out inconsistencies in their reasoning. Isn't that important? I believe in things making sense and things can't make sense if they aren't consistent. Problem is, so many people don't even know why they believe what they do and I challenge people to come face to face with their beliefs and line up what they really stand for.

1 hour ago, Cortex said:

i find it very strange that you are restricting the definition of gaga/gaga fansite to that !

gaga = what you said above (these are true facts and a part of her) + her music her art her talent, her messages her behviour ...

i mean one can appreciate her music/art/personnality and totally feel unconcerned by her personal life / sexuality , that's how is tolerance defined...it's not this or that only! 

for exemple : you have a  friend with whom u dont agree at 100% with what he does, it doesnt mean u should  avoid him as long as you  are aware that he has other things/aspects u like  ...the same applies to gaga and her fanpage! some are here more for her activism other for her art,  others for both and the list is long, our world is not black or white only !

i hope u got the idea 

Granted, it's the most basic description of Gaga, but I was just listing her statistics that would make her not acceptable in the eyes of a Muslim.

Yes, a person who doesn't identify as having any strong religious identity can appreciate someone without agreeing with everything they say but one of the most important aspects of religion is not associating with anything your religion would disapprove of. That's why so many people choose not to follow religion because it restricts their freedoms too much. Religion may say things about tolerance but it is seldom practiced. There's a reason why some people claim to be for faith but not for religion. Religion is based on dogma, found in ancient religious texts that are very strict, sometimes telling of violence and bloodshed. Hardly applicable to the modern world, so a lot of people disregard it. But if you want to follow religion, you have to follow what the sacred texts say. People created separate branches of their religion because not everyone could handle the strictness and wanted to dilute it. But if you can't handle religion as it was preached in the sacred texts and have to change it to suit yourself, you shouldn't identify yourself as religious.

I get what you're saying but your argument only really applies to non-religious people. They have the freedom to associate with who they choose and not agree with them on anything. But religious people are taught to be more selective than that, that there's certain people they should distance themselves from. There's a reason why we're shocked if a pastor gets caught at a strip club. Because there's certain things you don't do as a religious person and certain people you don't mix with.

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2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Granted, it's the most basic description of Gaga, but I was just listing her statistics that would make her not acceptable in the eyes of a Muslim.

Yes, a person who doesn't identify as having any strong religious identity can appreciate someone without agreeing with everything they say but one of the most important aspects of religion is not associating with anything your religion would disapprove of. That's why so many people choose not to follow religion because it restricts their freedoms too much. Religion may say things about tolerance but it is seldom practiced. There's a reason why some people claim to be for faith but not for religion. Religion is based on dogma, found in ancient religious texts that are very strict, sometimes telling of violence and bloodshed. Hardly applicable to the modern world, so a lot of people disregard it. But if you want to follow religion, you have to follow what the sacred texts say. People created separate branches of their religion because not everyone could handle the strictness and wanted to dilute it. But if you can't handle religion as it was preached in the sacred texts and have to change it to suit yourself, you shouldn't identify yourself as religious.

I get what you're saying but your argument only really applies to non-religious people. They have the freedom to associate with who they choose and not agree with them on anything. But religious people are taught to be more selective than that, that there's certain people they should distance themselves from. There's a reason why we're shocked if a pastor gets caught at a strip club. Because there's certain things you don't do as a religious person and certain people you don't mix with.

well you are talking about strict religious people while your comment was at first directed to the person who started this conversation and u dont even know if he/she is 100% religious to indirectly tell him/her what she/he is doing here liking gaga... that's where my argument takes place!!

Spoiler

 

all that aside, 

so to you every religious person is isolated from any form of social contact, 24/24 praying and waiting to die?

As i remember  from my education in highschool religion has some fixed rules and some evolving rules, but that's another subject that needs its own topic!

i get your idea, you are talking about really strict religious people, what you're saying about them is true indeed...but do you see that often in real life?  you are  stricter than religion  i understood from your text that people should be 100% religious or 0% !

 

 

[lego 44,165]

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I don't live in the American deep South, though, so I don't know the full extent of it.

 

Me neither. I live in Northern Europe. I lived in Eastern Europe. I have seen what some religious Christians are capable of.

 

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I accept it's different elsewhere but I'm just describing my experiences, just as you are describing yours.

 

You are describing yours as facts. You say "you can't deny that...." like what you stated is a fact.

 

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

And the Daily Mail doesn't just report of negative stories involving non-whites, you know.

 

Daily Mail, The Sun etc are notorious right wing  garbage tabloids, they use clickbait racially charged headlines and sometimes even photoshop niqab to a hijabi woman to make her look more "scary". I can pull the receipts if you want, but please do a bit of research how much they contributed to anti-immigrant sentiment in Britain.

 

 

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I don't understand why different countries and continents should practice it differently.

 

Then you didn't study enough on religion, different schools of thought, culture influences etc. 

 

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

but can I ask, how many white Christians do you see committing religiously motivated crimes, or even just committing crimes? Most of the time, when a white person has committed a crime, they have no religion (fitting, as someone religious shouldn't be committing crimes). That's why I don't get why people complain about "why don't people talk about all the Christians committing crimes?" because most white criminals have no religion. At most, they came from a religious family but don't follow their families beliefs.

 

"Or even just committing crimes...." mm plenty?

Just because media doesn't mention the religion of the white European criminals, it doesn't mean it's never involved. Breivik, the Norwegian terrorist who killed 77 people was motivated by religion too, in his manifesto, he wanted Europe to stay Christian and White, how is that not religiously motivated crime? Genocide of Muslims in Bosnia was partly religiously motivated. In America, who do you see shooting up women clinics because they oppose abortion, white Christians. Did you watch that interview when black woman visited KKK "wizard", he thought she's inferior based on his interpretation of the Bible. In UK many of the Britain First and EDL followers consider themselves Christian and when they attack Muslims, what are their crimes if not religiously motivated?

 

"Most white criminals have no religion", - you can't prove that really, only that media won't ever mention their religion, unless it's about priests molesting boys.

Also, why are you claiming that each Muslim who committed a crime IS religiously motivated? Any proof of that or just your impression because again media will mention his religion. Whoever recognizes his name as Arabic WILL connect his crimes to Islamic religion, and if you studied about terrorists, you'd notice that most have criminal background and barely any religious knowledge or background except the name. Whatever is considered the biggest sin, they've done it all, but suddenly when they end up in the news, their religion is to blame, how is that? 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Of course Christianity originated in the middle east but its been the most popular national religion of my country for centuries. I think that's long enough to consider it native, right? Religions aren't native in the same way that people are.

 

Most popular doesn't mean it's native. Pagan religions before Christianity would be more "native". If Middle Eastern Christians move to UK, don't you think there would be cultural clash too? Just because it's the same religion, not even same denomination, it doesn't mean that everyone will get along with everyone. UK is multicultural also because of its colonial past, you can't erase that.

 

 

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Just imagine being a woman for a moment and image how scared that makes you feel.

 

I don't need to imagine. You are talking to white European woman.

 

 

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

White women get mistreated enough by their fellow white men. But that's nothing compared to how certain Muslim men see us as pieces of meat who are here for one thing, that a white woman, especially if unveiled, is a wh*re by definition.

 

But how can you say all that about white men and then proceed with "but that's nothing compared to..." you are minimizing or downplaying the sex crimes committed by white Brits. Yes, some Muslim men see us as piece of meat, also many European men see Asian women and girls as piece of meat and that's why they go to "sex tourism". I don't see how one is bad, but not as bad as...only because of the skin of sexual predators, do you understand how that comes across? 

There are also plenty of religious or non religious Muslims who don't treat Western women in degrading way, but how come in that case no one says their behavior is from their religion? Whenever someone does good and treats others with respect, suddenly religion doesn't matter.

Another example I noticed, when an athlete (with Muslim background) wins a medal, he'll be praised as amazing Brit (or American) in the headlines, his foreign sounding name won't matter to anyone.  You won't see nasty comments, even in Daily Mail.

But if that person is a criminal, suddenly his religion is the focus and most comments will be about going back to Somalia/Pakistan wherever they think he's from. Even if he's born and raised in Britain. 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

But does that take away from the fact that these negative stories are true? That religion is feeding these criminals? That they are raised on racist stereotypes of white women

 

Sorry but you can't back this up with facts. Their religion is not teaching them to be racists and assault white women. You can't prove that most of them are even religious or know much about it. This is your assumption, do you really believe that each criminal with Muslim name is motivated by his religion? 

 

 

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

So, as if that isn't enough, people from other countries (countries where women are treated as second class citizens and sexism is rife) are allowed to come into this country, without background checks, where they run the risk of assaulting us some more.

 

It's not true that there are no background checks. Second, many of them are born and raised in Britain so they do have a lot from British culture. Third, this is often right wing argument against accepting refugees, people fleeing from war torn areas. I wonder if you have met many people and families from those areas, if you have years of experience, maybe you wouldn't let media so much to shape your views on these matters?

 

 

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

What I want to see is the decent Muslims starting a protest and go marching down the street proclaiming that ISIS and migrant attacks on locals is not in their name. I saw a tiny little bit of a stand taken after the knife attack in London recently but I've not seen a full on protest as of yet.

 

So you are saying a minority has to make big protests and distance themselves every time from crimes they have not even committed (because criminals have same religion) only to please White Europeans, because "they haven't seen enough"?

 

 

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Pardon me if I'm highly emotional after reading the umpteenth "migrant assault" story.

 

Right wing media writes about "migrants" the most, because that is the hot topic right now and they have an agenda. Are you equally emotional and outraged when white men are caught in sex crimes?

Are you suspicious of white men after that?

No one ever does that, no one blames "white culture" or British culture, when they commit such crimes. Why is that?

 

 

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Well, actually, yes, I am surprised that Gaga calls herself Catholic considering how she's lived her life (Lana as well - even I feel I bit wary singing those lines about God being dead and suchlike on Gods and Monsters and I don't even identify as Catholic like her). There's nothing stopping her from believing in God but the Catholic title just isn't accurate. I probably wouldn't say this to her outright as questioning someone's faith and how they practice it can be very rude. But there's a way of going about in in a general way.

 

So you wouldn't say that to Gaga because it's rude.

But you did say to this user, that he shouldn't call himself a Muslim or identify with Islam, unless he doesn't do any of the sins that are mentioned in his religion? 

 

 

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Europe never used to be this unsafe and Britain never used to have a terrorist incident every other week.

 

Europe never used to be this unsafe? If you look at the history, you know this is not true, have we forgotten two world wars, Balkan wars in 90s... terrorism in Britain hmm... IRA? 

"Between 1971 and 2001, there were 430 terrorist-related deaths in Great Britain. Of these, 125 deaths were linked to the Northern Ireland conflict,[8] and 305 deaths were linked to other causes[9] – most of the latter deaths occurred in the Lockerbie bombing.[9]

Two breakaway factions of the Irish Republican Army killed two British soldiers and one police officer over three days in 2009, raising the specter of sectarianism and paramilitary score-settling. They were the worst attacks since the region’s 1998 peace deal, which was opposed by the two factions, the Continuity I.R.A. and the Real I.R.A."

"For more than 30 years from the early 1970s, the Irish Republican Army (IRA), a paramilitary group, carried out multiple attacks across the UK. 

The deadliest were the Birmingham pub bombings of 1974, when 21 were killed. In 1996, the IRA detonated a massive 1500-kilogram (3300-pound) bomb in a Manchester shopping center not far from Monday night's attack, injuring more than 200. The explosion destroyed buildings but a cast iron red postbox not far from the blast site remained unscathed; its image came to symbolize the resilience of the city."

 

......

 

This is my last post to you, because there's no possibility to discuss these issues on this forum, without people reporting and warnings over smallest things, this is exactly what I mentioned earlier to @Venusfly . 

 

 

[Neroneau 1,017]

It's quite simple in a way, Islam passing through what Christianity went through in the XIX century, it's a younger religion so, Islam is still in puberty, except a lot of people feel it since we live in a globalised world... what does scare me is the big homophobia from most muslims here in Europe where I live 

[SFDMQ 3,397]

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Yes, commitment to religion is extremely hard which is why you should only enter into it if you feel you can handle it. Refusing temptation is the biggest part of any religion, so if you can't do that, religion isn't for you. I have no problem respecting Islam as long as its followers remain peaceful and live their lives according to modern society's decency standards. I think hating a religion's followers is a bit different to hating a country's people, though. People choose to follow a religion, so therefore, you judge them if they follow beliefs that aren't in line with yours. But people don't choose the country they're born and raised in, so judging a country for its people is less acceptable.

I don't quite agree with you on this. The reason why I'm following a religion is not just because I was born with it, but because I find it to be like a basic need for me as a human being to have a clear guidance on how to live my life. The more I learn about religion, the more I learn about the meanings and purpose of life. Religion has taught me a lot of things that I would have probably never think about like life after death etc and i feel like it is a spiritual need for every human to have some sort of beliefs to find inner peace and to feel connected to their Creator. Even though not everyone can fully commit to their religion, but I don't think that they should quit believing just because of that reason. Like myself, sometimes I do things that are not approved by my religion, but it's impossible for everyone to resist every temptations because every human being has a desire to do certain things that aren't always a good thing to do, but having a religion helps them know if what they do is right or wrong. And it helps them to improve themselves to be a better person each day.

[PeterPan 0]

wait i dont get the story.  I used the translate button but it didnt convert correctly.  Alot of stuff doesnt make sense

[SFDMQ 3,397]

14 minutes ago, PeterPan said:

wait i dont get the story.  I used the translate button but it didnt convert correctly.  Alot of stuff doesnt make sense

from what I understand, a lady sells clothes for Muslim women, bridal wear and lingerie in a shop. she call the lingerie she's selling as sharia-bikinis. for fully veiled woman, they find it offensive to put the 2 words together but there's one woman who went too far, stormed into the shop and calling the lady a slut, wh*re etc.

[Goosey 3,017]

12 hours ago, benKo said:

I don't understand how you can still allow them in Germany. It's a law to not hide your face with masks or other things, but somehow they justify it with freedom of religion, even if it's not required by the religion itself...

That's incorrect. There's a law against hiding your face while participating in public demonstrations, but not in general.

[August Blue 8,566]

To all the people who keep on bashing islam in this thread, and use every opportunity to teach muslims about muslimanism... so here it goes.. 

First of all, the woman is not just islamic but she is a radical. Do not put a whole religion into one bag. 

Radical people are always wrong. No matter what religion they are. 

Buddhists radicals are killing and doing a genocide against muslims. No thread about that. Why? Because y'all always pay attention and are ready to judge muslims, and make them look like the worse religion.

But you are missing a point here... while you say that christianity is a more tolerating religion that muslimanism.. u seem to FORGET that is not the religion who is tolerating.. but is the society and the country christians live in. Christians mostly live in developped countries, and muslims dont.(expect Saudi Arabia)

Its not christianity who is better. But its the society, economy, and the country you live in. Gay marriage is a sin in christianity. 

And when you do not have a lot of information about muslim religion, dont come here and teach muslims, about muslims. Because all you have "learned", is from the articles you read online.