AlexanderMagno 10,746 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 It's not called a "creative crisis". It's called "not having a good creative team behind her". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venusfly 17,885 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, LateToCult2k17 said: But is it really authentic? Every song on Joanne sounds so uninspired. Sure she put her aunt's name on it, but that doesn't automatically make an album deep or authentic or any other word little monsters throw to praise the album. By authentic I meant the process of creating the actual music. Joanne was made with 2 other people for the most part and they all sat down and jammed together with instruments and wrote the songs together, in comparison to redone throwing together a beat and gaga suggesting tweaks to it and singing her part and that being it. Whether there's any true meaning in the lyrics the method of creating the album was a lot more authentic than her past works Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHS 4,714 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 minute ago, AlexanderMagno said: It's not called a "creative crisis". It's called "not having a good creative team behind her". Not this discussion again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderMagno 10,746 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 minute ago, LoisLilMonster said: Not this discussion again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duella Dvil 10,495 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 19 minutes ago, Fiona Apple said: There is no proof that the song is about Sonja People need to stop making **** up Would you like me to give you an explanation as per why it is? It's really freaking beautiful www.instagram.com/theduella666 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
techhausmonster 175 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 33 minutes ago, HANZ said: ROCK MUSIC/looks and RED WEAVES is the answer that's what I want, most likely not gonna happen tho I agree. If she wants to be experimental with music, rock is her best bet. I would love it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I wouldn't say we can know for sure until the next album is released. I do agree that her first four albums had lyrics that were much more complex than anything on Joanne. She was always known for how weird, confusing and complex her lyrics were. Joanne is decent, but for me personally, I don't find any of it thought provoking in any way. And the lack of visuals don't help either. But that's how it is with a lot of artists. You are going to have albums you like and albums you don't. It's natural and there's nothing wrong with it. P.S. The Cure (I love the song) is probably her least complex lyrics that she's had in an official release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBatman 951 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Yea I agree, as amazing and entertaining as the superbowl/coachella and JWT are, they don't bring any new ideas so much as they homage 09-11 Gaga. Lyrically, sonically, and visually, there is nothing groundbreaking or fresh or NEW about Gaga this era, it's all the same stuff we've seen. (Joanne album is obviously very different from any of her previous albums, but the sound is nothing new and lyrically there are no deep or thought provoking themes or ideas explored) She's killing it vocally and with older GP tho. I would love for her next album to be made working with unknown cutting edge producers, where upon first listen our ears are so confused by the brand new soundscape they can't even comprehend it at first! Reinvent the wheel baby! I am hoping all the confidence she is gaining through this very safe era, will inspire her to take more chances in the next era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 38 minutes ago, Venusfly said: No she's just got a really weird and unique agreement with her label that lets her do basically what she wants, other popstars don't have that, they get in set album cycles and have to do set genres. She wanted to make club music in the beginning stages of her career when she's young, she's now established and she clearly enjoys sitting down and making more authentic music whether people consider that a good thing or not And The Cure shows she's still into making electronic music too About the second paragraph, I dont get the whole "she's older now, she will make less dance/electro music, authentic" She always changes from era to era, so this time around she probably felt like spreading her ideas through less pop music, but God knows what's going on in her mind now and which direction will she choose next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron l 11,999 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 38 minutes ago, Mirages said: Cole Porter, Irving Berlin and all other writers of classical jazz songs are shooketh I can't, I'll pretend I'm not offended by it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBlue 993 Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 minute ago, MaryJaneHolland said: About the second paragraph, I dont get the whole "she's older now, she will make less dance/electro music, authentic" She always changes from era to era, so this time around she probably felt like spreading her ideas through less pop music, but God knows what's going on in her mind now and which direction will she choose next. If she continues sth like Joanne or just keeps making jazz music i'd most likely burn my stan card because that's not music i previously liked and that music doesn't entertain me at all loving you was blue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 35 minutes ago, Sassy Eros said: I feel embarrassed for not knowing Let me go back into my hole When did you become a Gaga fan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBlue 993 Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just now, MaryJaneHolland said: When did you become a Gaga fan? Like late 2015 Why? loving you was blue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 24 minutes ago, Venusfly said: By authentic I meant the process of creating the actual music. Joanne was made with 2 other people for the most part and they all sat down and jammed together with instruments and wrote the songs together, in comparison to redone throwing together a beat and gaga suggesting tweaks to it and singing her part and that being it. Whether there's any true meaning in the lyrics the method of creating the album was a lot more authentic than her past works You have no idea how TFM and Joanne were made, so why talking **** like this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 44 minutes ago, TropicOfCANCER said: (p.s. the song isn't about Sonja. It's an ASIB leftover) receipts on that? because i'm sure The Cure was just a collab between her and DJWS and they just wanted to release it https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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