Red 88,809 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Decodekid said: BURNTÂ No one is gonna offend P!nk if front of me If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decodekid 24,716 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Just now, Red said: No one is gonna offend P!nk if front of me just like fire.mp3Â Im Harol don't tell anyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades 27,980 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 25 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: She already collabed with him on her last album and no one kicked up a fuss then. Eminem has changed a lot since those early days. Rap God is probably his last truly problematic rap. In his last album, he pretty much killed off the Slim Shady character and it was all about redemption for past mistakes, especially in the songs Headlights, which is an apology to his mum for bringing her down in his most famous songs, and the very confessional Bad Guy, where he actually admits that he did wrong by making various slurs throughout his career - "I'm the bullies you hate that you became, with every f****t you slaughtered coming back on you, every woman you insult, that with the double standards you have when it comes to your daughters." His Slim Shady persona is where he said most of the offensive stuff and he's moved on since then. I wouldn't be surprised if him and Pink were going to make a very political song together, in light of these current times, something similar to what he did with Rihanna in Love The Way You Lie. I think it'll be interesting, whatever happens. Always love reading your in depth comments. That's the real tea. People can change/grow and re-evaluate even their art. I also don't think Eminem has done anything really offensive to the lgbt community outside of past fail raps and slurs. I say let's give the song a chance first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy 5,686 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, TeenIdle said: Pop =/= basic  I'm talking about pop CHEESE, not pop This is basic bordering on Katy Perry-level pop cheese: Uh, check my flow, uh. The waiter just took my table and gave to Jessica Simp- (****!). I guess I'll go sit with tomboy, at least he'll know how to hit. What if this song's on the radio, then somebody's gonna die. I'm gonna get in trouble, my ex will start a fight. Na na na na na na na, he's gonna start a fight!!! Na na na na na na na, we're all gonna get in a fight!!! Right right, turn off the lights, we gonna lose our minds tonight. What's the dealio? I love when it's all too much, Five a.m. turn the radio up, Where's the rock and roll? Party crasher, Panty snatcher, Call me up if you want a gangsta. Don't be fancy, just get dancy. Why so serious?  This is not: I'll be a girl backstage at your show, velvet ropes and guitars. Yeah, 'cause you're my rockstar... in between the sets, eyeliner and cigarettes. Shadow is burnt, yellow dance and we turn. My lashes are dry, purple teardrops I cry. It don't have a price, loving you is cherry pie  Even Gaga's shallow party songs have artistic lyrical depth: Wish I could shut my playboy mouth, how'd I turn my shirt inside out? (inside out, right) Control your poison babe, roses have thorns they say. And were all gettin' hosed tonight. What's goin' on on the floor? I love this record baby, but I can't see straight anymore. Keep it cool, what's the name of this club? I can't remember, but its alright. I'm alright Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CautiousLurker 16,643 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 To add to what most people on here said, if a person said something stupid, or a string of stupid things, that doesn't automatically make them anti-gay, nor does it mean they are completely void of good qualities... From what I can recall, Eminem is a stand-up guy... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagi 2,750 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Eminem ain't homophobic, damn when will this **** stop? đ My straight best friend calls me ******* and no one would call him a homophobic, it's just Eminems music, he never said anything against gays in an interview or something. And if Pink collabs with him then because of the music or the money and not because she shares his opinion on homosexuals. Bye girl, get sum fukk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
 TeenIdle 118,018 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, Buddy said: I'm talking about pop CHEESE, not pop This is basic bordering on Katy Perry-level pop cheese: Uh, check my flow, uh. The waiter just took my table and gave to Jessica Simp- (****!). I guess I'll go sit with tomboy, at least he'll know how to hit. What if this song's on the radio, then somebody's gonna die. I'm gonna get in trouble, my ex will start a fight. Na na na na na na na, he's gonna start a fight!!! Na na na na na na na, we're all gonna get in a fight!!! Right right, turn off the lights, we gonna lose our minds tonight. What's the dealio? I love when it's all too much, Five a.m. turn the radio up, Where's the rock and roll? Party crasher, Panty snatcher, Call me up if you want a gangsta. Don't be fancy, just get dancy. Why so serious?  This is not: I'll be a girl backstage at your show, velvet ropes and guitars. Yeah, 'cause you're my rockstar... in between the sets, eyeliner and cigarettes. Shadow is burnt, yellow dance and we turn. My lashes are dry, purple teardrops I cry. It don't have a price, loving you is cherry pie  Even Gaga's shallow party songs have artistic lyrical depth: Wish I could shut my playboy mouth, how'd I turn my shirt inside out? (inside out, right) Control your poison babe, roses have thorns they say. And were all gettin' hosed tonight. What's goin' on on the floor? I love this record baby, but I can't see straight anymore. Keep it cool, what's the name of this club? I can't remember, but its alright. I'm alright Just a second It's my favorite song they're gonna play And I cannot text you with A drink in my hand, eh You shoulda made some plans with me You knew that I was free And now you won't stop calling me I'm kinda busy Sorry but these are double standards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Just now, TeenIdle said: Just a second It's my favorite song they're gonna play And I cannot text you with A drink in my hand, eh You shoulda made some plans with me You knew that I was free And now you won't stop calling me I'm kinda busy Sorry but these are double standards. Telephone is deeply artistic wtf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
 TeenIdle 118,018 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Just now, Born To Slay said: Telephone is deeply artistic wtf The video is The song is incredible but nowhere near artistic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, TeenIdle said: The video is The song is incredible but nowhere near artistic how is it not when you take into aspect the meaning of the song?  https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 13,471 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I'd also like to add that plenty of straight men can make gay jokes but actually be completely fine with homosexuality and all other orientations. They tell the joke in a satirical, self-deprecating way, especially if it's a joke involving the possibility of them being gay. It just depends on what brand of humour you subscribe to. Plenty of straight women also make jokes about being into women as a way of showing that sexuality doesn't need a label, it's not set in stone. It's not about mocking, it's about support. But again, not everyone finds the same stuff funny. Also, if we all cut ties with and refused to work with anyone or any institution/organisation that had ever displayed any problematic views, we'd be totally alone, with no friends and family. No one's perfect and you can't live a life completely avoiding any kind of problematic people. We were meant to get along, communicate and work through issues, not divide ourselves as "them" and "us." I'm a feminist and if I refused to associate with anyone who'd ever said anything sexist, I'd have no one but me, myself and I in this world (and maybe not even myself because I've been guilty of that in the past and perhaps still have some lingering bias). Not every piece of problematic behaviour is extreme, a tragedy or something never to be forgiven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchami 154 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 1 hour ago, bitchimtrying said: There is allegedly a P!nk and Eminem collaboration on the way. I don't understand how artists who claim to be allies to the LGBT+ community can work with known homophobes like this and still be successful. How could she do this to her fans? How could she stand onstage at events like the HRC and accept an award for 'Ally for Equality' and then collaborate with someone who has known homophobic values, raps about beating and killing lgbt people and also uses gay slurs. If this is real then I will have lost all respect for her. The audacity to cultivate a fanbase and have them spend money on her products and music to then decide to work with someone like this. I'm so aggravated. **** her.  you have to be the dumbest member ive seen on here. eminem is not a homophobe. its called provoking. he said many times that he is not homophobic  also not you trying to drag king eminem get a grip and leave your bubblegum poomusic world for once dumb fool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
 TeenIdle 118,018 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, ryanripley said: how is it not when you take into aspect the meaning of the song?  BTW has a deep meaning. MTN has a deep meaning. Telephone is a party song presented in an artistic way. I'm very off-topic at this point but my point was that every pop star has made party songs. No one is quoting 'Try' or 'Dear Mr. President' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy 5,686 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, TeenIdle said: Just a second It's my favorite song they're gonna play And I cannot text you with A drink in my hand, eh You shoulda made some plans with me You knew that I was free And now you won't stop calling me I'm kinda busy Sorry but these are double standards. Telephone is about the fear of suffocation wyd  Lol but in all seriousness the lyrics of Telephone have very little depth (it was written for Britney after all ) and I admit, pop songs don't always need to have lyrical depth to be effective However, as basic as Telephone is, there is no cheese to it what so ever. It's not corny. P!nk's biggest songs, to me, are Last-Friday-Night-by-Katy Perry-style cheese. The only difference is she would you beat you up and Katy wouldn't Though, she does have a lot of amazing songs with lyrical depth, like Who Knew (a classic), Try, and Dear Mr. President to name a few Her new song is great melodically and her singing is exceptional, but lyrically she didn't even try which agitates me because it could've been fantastic if she did   Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyFool 782 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Eminem is gay! Have none of you seen the interview? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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