Quiz: What Type Of Democrat or Republican Are You?

[Mythos 3,199]

Oh my, Young Outsider 

[JustaMonster 4,909]

11 minutes ago, Bio said:

You said capitalism works and I'm pointing out to you why it doesn't. Capitalism believes that if you work hard you will have success in life. But that's not true if some people have more opportunities than others.

For example: I'm white and had the privilege of being born in a family that could pay for a great education for me. If you think the public school system in the US is bad you have no idea of how it is here in Brazil. Now you're gonna tell me that these kids that go to public school are gonna have the same chances of getting into a great university as me that have studied my whole life in private schools?

Most of these kids usually drop out of school because they barely have classes, they usually don't have the support of their parents and they live in favelas (really poor places that are usually controlled by drug lords). They are told their whole lives they're gonna be nothing so they believe it.

And even if these kids work 5 times harder than me and by some miracle can go to the same university as me, if they're black and we run for the same job, guess what? I'm getting that job. 

So you tell me capitalism works?

No? Where did I say that capitalism is 100% effective. Even in my original comment I said it has flaws. However, it's the best form of government that we as a society have been able to come up with. If you look, most capitalist countries have bigger economies and higher standards of living than any other form of government and a lot less people dying as a result of things like famines. It does the most good for the largest amount of people.

[OBEY 57,109]

Next Generation Left

[Bloody hooker 6,445]

I'm a solid liberal 

and the ideological placement puts me near the middle

[LordEnigma 11,313]

24 minutes ago, Bio said:

You said capitalism works and I'm pointing out to you why it doesn't. Capitalism believes that if you work hard you will have success in life. But that's not true if some people have more opportunities than others.

For example: I'm white and had the privilege of being born in a family that could pay for a great education for me. If you think the public school system in the US is bad you have no idea of how it is here in Brazil. Now you're gonna tell me that these kids that go to public school are gonna have the same chances of getting into a great university as me that have studied my whole life in private schools?

Most of these kids usually drop out of school because they barely have classes, they usually don't have the support of their parents and they live in favelas (really poor places that are usually controlled by drug lords). They are told their whole lives they're gonna be nothing so they believe it.

And even if these kids work 5 times harder than me and by some miracle can go to the same university as me, if they're black and we run for the same job, guess what? I'm getting that job. 

So you tell me capitalism works?

Since no one has asked you yet, what do you think works?

I'm just curious!

[MJHolland 12,725]

18 minutes ago, Bio said:

That is a very simplistic way of looking at it. Meritocracy is a very important consequence of capitalism.

You say simplistic, I say definitionally accurate

[Buddy 5,686]

I'm a Young Outsider

43 minutes ago, Bio said:

Capitalism still doesn't work.

 

Capitalism has a ton of flaws but what do you think works better? Thanks to capitalism we've had so many advances in medicine and technology. There is possibility for corruption, but that's where the government should step in appropriately

[Maleficent 6]

1 hour ago, Gaga Monster said:

I got Next Generation Left!

That is pretty accurate, I do consider myself Liberal on most issues but do take some moderate/Republican sides on some issues.

Same as I. I don't believe in defining myself as either democrat or republican. Without divulging to much about my private/professional life, I have actually worked on (mostly successful) campaigns for both sides of the aisle. It is not about what you believe in, it's about who. 

[Sizzily 14,571]

I got Next Gen Left. But GGD makes me out to be Young Outsider lol

[JustaMonster 4,909]

49 minutes ago, Gov Hooka said:

I love it when people like you deflect to the disproportionate success of Asian-Americans as a counter example to institutionalized racism, ignoring the fact that the relatively small Asian demographic in this country immigrated here and represent a more socioeconomically well-off demographic within the Asian race. Asian Americans in this country were generally able to afford leaving their homes and a number of them are disproportionately wealthy. I can definitely speak for the Indian community because the wave of Indian immigrants in the 80s and 90s that brought a number of the doctors and engineers in the US today were wealthy when they entered the country. The same can be said for all the young Indians entering the tech businesses in the US. Of course they're going to do better and their progeny will as well!! It's a disproportionate statistic and many people use it incorrectly and fail to see the bigger picture.

Dude, I'm not denying that racism is a thing. You even quoted me where I said that racism exists. I was replying to someone that was saying that capitalism is best if you are rich and white. Thats why I posted the median income of asians. You are just putting words in my mouth. 

[ItsTommyBitch 12,640]

44 minutes ago, Gov Hooka said:

I love it when people like you deflect to the disproportionate success of Asian-Americans as a counter example to institutionalized racism, ignoring the fact that the relatively small Asian demographic in this country immigrated here and represent a more socioeconomically well-off demographic within the Asian race. Asian Americans in this country were generally able to afford leaving their homes and a number of them are disproportionately wealthy. I can definitely speak for the Indian community because the wave of Indian immigrants in the 80s and 90s that brought a number of the doctors and engineers in the US today were wealthy when they entered the country. The same can be said for all the young Indians entering the tech businesses in the US. Of course they're going to do better and their progeny will as well!! It's a disproportionate statistic and many people use it incorrectly and fail to see the bigger picture.

This TEA  

[Buddy 5,686]

1 hour ago, Gov Hooka said:

I love it when people like you deflect to the disproportionate success of Asian-Americans as a counter example to institutionalized racism, ignoring the fact that the relatively small Asian demographic in this country immigrated here and represent a more socioeconomically well-off demographic within the Asian race. Asian Americans in this country were generally able to afford leaving their homes and a number of them are disproportionately wealthy. I can definitely speak for the Indian community because the wave of Indian immigrants in the 80s and 90s that brought a number of the doctors and engineers in the US today were wealthy when they entered the country. The same can be said for all the young Indians entering the tech businesses in the US. Of course they're going to do better and their progeny will as well!! It's a disproportionate statistic and many people use it incorrectly and fail to see the bigger picture.

All races can rise in the system, it's just a matter of hard work and a culture that promotes education. Some races have demographics who's cultures promote moving up higher in the system and investing in higher education. Yes, this has a very broad historical racial context, and many of those are in poverty are so because or that. However, in 2017, it is very possible to get out of that, and it only takes one generation. My upper middle class high school in California had a significant portion of every race, proof of that.

There are tons of low income financial aid programs for schooling in the US, many which minorities get the upper hand on. On top of that, universities make an effort to accept racial minorities (besides Asians) before white people through affirmative action programs. There are several types of loans you can take out to invest in higher education, and if that doesn't work you can always work your ass off getting As at a community college for 2 years for 700 a semester and get accepted into a university with a grant/scholarship program. Plus, there are 100s of scholarships you can apply to which are specifically targeted to benefit minorities. If none of that works, you can join the military and receive education and a number of benefits for free when you're done.

So yes, certain races are disadvantaged because they are more likely to have been born in lower income households. They will have to work harder than those who were privileged being born in higher income households, but it most certainly can be done. 

[homomo 23,883]

2 hours ago, Gaga Monster said:

I don't want to get into a huge debate so I will say this, Communism has never worked and will never work. Communism has killed millions of people through failed programs, corruption, starvation and murder. In the United States, you work your way up, take responsibility, get some help from the government if you are poor, and work for your house, objects, education, ect. No need to punish someone for making more money than someone else? Communism sounds good on paper, the whole equality thing, but never works as History has shown. Forms of Democracy have successfully worked throughout the world and people are happier. Look at Mao's China killing millions through failed communist programs, North Korea, etc. It will never work and has never worked.

It's never worked in history, because there was always still a government in power.

Real communism is where the people are in charge. You have no government subsidy. That is reason #1 why it didn't work.

Reason #2: Communism needs resources and technology. It doesn't work if everyone is complaining about why the doctor is making the same as a janitor. That's why modern communism would put all of its focus into automating the jobs that people don't want to do, so they can focus on obtaining a free education and pursuing their ultimate goals.

In the ideal communist community, one would have obtained years of education to be a planetary scientist, a heart surgeon, a musician, or anything we all want to be. 

Communism also rules out the abundance of unnecessary things. We have thousands of stores selling the exact same ****, all because of capitalism. How does it make sense that we have thousands of different companies, all selling shoes, plus there's an abundance of shoes in their warehouses, yet there are millions out there who can't afford new shoes nor do they even own a pair. 

This is why capitalism doesn't work. If it truly worked, it would benefit everyone. The rich tell the homeless to get a job, but fail to realize they probably don't have the experience, nor the resources to look 'professional', such as a home to shower, or a home at all. Neither would they have clean clothes. They also probably don't have government ID, nor do they have an address, and you need a home address for government documents. 

Communism would work in countries with an abundance of resources, such as Canada. It would also work really well if humans weren't so obsessed with having more than another, or feeling that they deserve more than someone else. That's called being a slave to capitalism. You believe that if you work hard, you will become a CEO; however, many don't have this opportunity.

Anyway, I'm not going to bother responding back to anyone. This is something that no one even bother reads, nor do they have an open mind. Also, google the fishhook theory. All you liberals and republicans are the same. /end rant 

[Sizzily 14,571]

[Buddy 5,686]

14 minutes ago, Interstellar said:

It's never worked in history, because there was always still a government in power.

Real communism is where the people are in charge. You have no government subsidy. That is reason #1 why it didn't work.

Reason #2: Communism needs resources and technology. It doesn't work if everyone is complaining about why the doctor is making the same as a janitor. That's why modern communism would put all of its focus into automating the jobs that people don't want to do, so they can focus on obtaining a free education and pursuing their ultimate goals.

In the ideal communist community, one would have obtained years of education to be a planetary scientist, a heart surgeon, a musician, or anything we all want to be. 

Communism also rules out the abundance of unnecessary things. We have thousands of stores selling the exact same ****, all because of capitalism. How does it make sense that we have thousands of different companies, all selling shoes, plus there's an abundance of shoes in their warehouses, yet there are millions out there who can't afford new shoes nor do they even own a pair. 

This is why capitalism doesn't work. If it truly worked, it would benefit everyone. The rich tell the homeless to get a job, but fail to realize they probably don't have the experience, nor the resources to look 'professional', such as a home to shower, or a home at all. Neither would they have clean clothes. They also probably don't have government ID, nor do they have an address, and you need a home address for government documents. 

Communism would work in countries with an abundance of resources, such as Canada. It would also work really well if humans weren't so obsessed with having more than another, or feeling that they deserve more than someone else. That's called being a slave to capitalism. You believe that if you work hard, you will become a CEO; however, many don't have this opportunity.

Anyway, I'm not going to bother responding back to anyone. This is something that no one even bother reads, nor do they have an open mind. Also, google the fishhook theory. All you liberals and republicans are the same. /end rant 

Just read this

https://www.quora.com/Could-Communism-ever-work

I bothered to read with an open mind. Capitalism seems like it may work when you explain it, but there are so many implications which cause it to fail