DaEdgeOfGloryYo 0 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) as for the MDNA tour vs. Born This Way Ball -- yes, of course the MDNA tour is better. it just is. it's better put together, more thematic, better plot, choreography, interludes. everything is immaculate from day 1 with a Madonna show, a Gaga show tends to work out the kinks and progress over time. Madonna's forté is putting on live shows, it's her best department and she never fails. She also has 25 years of experience over Gaga. Gaga has a stronger voice though. I happen to prefer the MB to the BTWB but that's just me. :legend: Edited July 8, 2012 by DaEdgeOfGloryYo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theFuture Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 I've seen Madonna twice and Gaga once! They both just left me entertained, neither really left me mind****ed per say lol But, its obvious Madonna has more experience in the field and thats apparent in the execution of her show. I don't really hold that against Gaga though, shes a newbie lol Well im not trying to imply that you do. Ugh, nevermind I'm confusing myself. I didn't mean to compare Gaga to Madonna because it is a comparison made that's very unfair considering the extreme age difference between them. Gaga is at a point where she is trying out things. First steps that Madonna had to do as well with her first tours. I have no doubt about Gaga being able to put on equally amazing shows in 15 years' time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crust 0 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) as for the MDNA tour vs. Born This Way Ball -- yes, of course the MDNA tour is better. it just is. it's better put together, more thematic, better plot, choreography, interludes. everything is immaculate from day 1 with a Madonna show, a Gaga show tends to work out the kinks and progress over time. Madonna's forté is putting on live shows, it's her best department and she never fails. She also has 25 years of experience over Gaga. Gaga has a stronger voice though. I happen to prefer the MB to the BTWB but that's just me. I like the MDNA tour better from a strictly aesthetic sense. I think the stage, direction, and everything is cleaner than the BTWB. But, I don't like the setlist. Honestly, I don't really care for this tour beyond the superficial aspects. Edited July 8, 2012 by crust Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaEdgeOfGloryYo 0 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) I like the MDNA tour better from a strictly aesthetic sense. I think the stage, direction, and everything is cleaner than the BTWB. But, I don't like the setlist. Honestly, I don't really care for this tour beyond the superficial aspects. Yeah, the biggest criticism is always that she doesn't sing her classics as they are. "Vogue" is like the only one in the show. No, wait, "Like a Prayer" and "Express Yourself" too. LAV is a brand new song. I can see why she wouldn't -- I'd need a dramamine to get through singing Like a Virgin for the 20432042019029303939403230202041th time. :rofl: Edited July 8, 2012 by DaEdgeOfGloryYo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theFuture Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 as for the MDNA tour vs. Born This Way Ball -- yes, of course the MDNA tour is better. it just is. it's better put together, more thematic, better plot, choreography, interludes. everything is immaculate from day 1 with a Madonna show, a Gaga show tends to work out the kinks and progress over time. Madonna's forté is putting on live shows, it's her best department and she never fails. She also has 25 years of experience over Gaga. Gaga has a stronger voice though. I happen to prefer the MB to the BTWB but that's just me. It's been that way with the Fame Ball just as much as with the Monster Ball. Gaga's tours really need time to progress, develop and evolve throughout the different legs of the tour. There are way too many elements she wants to incorporate in her show, that she always has to redo things, adapt others and take different things out. She still lacks the necessary feeling for balance when developing and creating a show. But usually, the last month of touring shows a perfectly arranged and coherent production. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crust 0 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) Yeah, the biggest criticism is always that she doesn't sing her classics as they are. "Vogue" is like the only one in the show. No, wait, "Like a Prayer" and "Express Yourself" too. LAV is a brand new song. I can see why she wouldn't -- I'd need a dramamine to get through singing Like a Virgin for the 20432042019029303939403230202041th time. Oh yeah, I don't really care for her re-inventions honestly! I'd rather hear Like a Virgin as-is lol It's been that way with the Fame Ball just as much as with the Monster Ball. Gaga's tours really need time to progress, develop and evolve throughout the different legs of the tour. There are way too many elements she wants to incorporate in her show, that she always has to redo things, adapt others and take different things out. She still lacks the necessary feeling for balance when developing and creating a show. But usually, the last month of touring shows a perfectly arranged and coherent production. I feel like that also applies to other aspects of her career as well. She still needs to find a way to harness all of that random creativity to produce a clear and concise product, so to speak. Edited July 8, 2012 by crust Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theFuture Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 I feel like that also applies to other aspects of her career as well. She still needs to find a way to harness all of that random creativity to produce a clear and concise product, so to speak. Exactly! :yes: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven1992 1 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 just been watching some MDNA tour videos on youtube, really enjoyed it. Does anyone know if there are any studio versions (fanmade probably) out there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALX 170 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 I've been listening to a lot of her ballads lately and does anyone else agree that she has a lot of passion/strength in her voice? Like, I admit she doesn't the most amazing voice in terms of what people consider "good" vocals. But I think she gives a lot of emotion in her ballads and her voice really showcases that, I think. Especially on Live to Tell, Oh Father, and Love Don't Live Here Anymore. I think I heard people say they don't like the LAV ballads? How come? I think Love Don't Live Here Anymore is amazing. Her deliverance in that song is incredible. I like the other ones you mentioned but I felt her voice was too weak to support a song like Love Don't Live Here Anymore, she could do it now but I don't think she could at that particular point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopBitch 1,218 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) I've been listening to a lot of her ballads lately and does anyone else agree that she has a lot of passion/strength in her voice? Like, I admit she doesn't the most amazing voice in terms of what people consider "good" vocals. But I think she gives a lot of emotion in her ballads and her voice really showcases that, I think. Especially on Live to Tell, Oh Father, and Love Don't Live Here Anymore. I think I heard people say they don't like the LAV ballads? How come? I think Love Don't Live Here Anymore is amazing. Her deliverance in that song is incredible. I love all her ballads. She doesn't have a powerful voice, but she has a really lovely tone and quality to her voice that's purely distinctive Madonna vocals and delivers with emotion. I love her ballads compilation album, Something to Remember, that covers her ballads all the way through Bedtime Stories and some I didn't know. Edited July 8, 2012 by PopBitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky 39 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) Madonna is severely underrated as a vocalist. She's truly got some amazing pipes. I find someone like Madonna so fascinatung. She initially wanted to be a nun or an actress, never did it occur to her to be a pop star, but given the opportunity, here she is the most influential of 3 decades. Its not often one is successful by just waking up one day and decides "I want to be ____________", but in the case of Madonna, that's kind of what happened . And to top it off, she actually had the vocal talent to put forth into a singing career. Its like she was born as a complete package of someone who could really do anything and everything. As a human, she will die knowing she kind of did it all, not missing a single thing. That's amazing. I'm going in circles in this post. But yeah, Madonna really is an enigma of talent that u don't often see. On the subject of vocals, I think her vocals shines on "true blue" ( the album) more than any of her other works tbh. Funny too because its her most bubbly album. Such raspiness in her voice on songs like LTT PDP TB LIB etc. Madonna :legend: Edited July 8, 2012 by badmikey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskey_mouth 0 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Aren't Swedish audiences always boring as ****? I'm not sure if it was Sweden (although I think it might have been) but if you look in one of the old Gagavision Episodes Gaga performs at some place in what I think is Sweden and they're all pretty much just sitting in their seats being boring. (Which is Ironic considering they later show Gaga after the show saying "The audience was crazy!" ) Tbh, I didn't even see the whole video, idk what was the big deal. From what I've seen, Madonna puts on great shows & great tours. I'm sure the people up front had an amazing time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU8zNPpyxvA Swedish audiences But anywho, agreed on Madonna's voice + Pre-Madonna. Madonna is not a vocalist in any way, but she does express a ton of emotion in her recordings and live performances....well, until lately. Starting with COADF her voice has kind of lacked passion or emotion lately :cry: Pre-Madonna is pretty good and interesting. It's fascinating hearing about her life in New York before fame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo 4,207 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 What do you all think of Pre-Madonna? I had email correspondence with Steve Bray about it. :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Noise 0 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) I couldn't care less about some users trying to start a ****storm in here by bringing up their very uninteresting and non contributive nonsense. Only someone who has actually seen a Madonna show will be able to first of all, judge the audience, and secondly, judge her live qualities which reach light years farther than any other pop star's abilities nowadays. I love Gaga and Madonna equally but before some Little Monsters come in here again - Madonna left me mind****ed. Three times. Gaga left me entertained. You decide which concert experience is more intense. I am just going to say that it is highly notable who has the three decade spanning performance experience needed to entertain an audience of 40,000 people. This is not about comparing Madonna and Gaga. They are two different artists, from two different decades, mainly entertaining two different demographics. To those who claim Madonna's audiences to be bored... to those I can only say that they should probably go away from their computer, stop watching YouTube videos and concert DVDs. If you have ever been to a concert - and we are talking about a really big stage production - you will know that European audiences are extremely reserved and guarded. US audiences and Latin American audiences are like day and night when compared to each other. Wait until Gaga plays in Northern Europe. I am dying to see how much the audience will "freak out" there. Before you start trying to find a link between an audience's reserved behavior and Madonna, you should consider the nation's mentality in first place. All in all, this proves your immaturity, ignorance and inability to judge things appropriately. I can confirm that not everyone in the Golden Triangle is a fan in general. Some people were casual concert goes that just won tickets to it and didn't know what they won until they had entered the special area. Kind of sad, actually. I agree with you to a certain point . I adore her and I've seen her concert live but Madge is not the greatest live singer . She gives an amazing show and her singing is good , but to say that it's beyond other pop star's abilities is a bit of an overstatement . Edited July 8, 2012 by Oscar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theFuture Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 I agree with you to a certain point . I adore her and I've seen her concert live but Madge is not the greatest live singer . She gives an amazing show and her singing is good , but to say that it's beyond other pop star's abilities is a bit of an overstatement . Vocal-wise she surely isn't a leader but I was referring to the aura she has on stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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