TheJackMonster 1,857 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I'm sorry but Bon Appetit plays on the radio and it's my favourite song of the year so far don't @ me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo 640 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Longevity has become rare now. The masses have the shortest attention spans nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,023 Posted July 19, 2017 Author Share Posted July 19, 2017 8 hours ago, GrigioGirl1 said: Its normal after 3-4 albums. At that point you're no longer the hot young commodity. It is then where you either take the legend/icon route or has been route. Usually talent are something special brings you to legend route. Beyonce was at a similar place when she released "4". But she has a great team around her, the pregnancy happened, she did Superbowl where everyone saw her performance skills and she is on her way to legend status. Gaga is KIND OF following that. Hopefull "A Star is Born" is a hit, either critically or commercially. Critical success is more important for movies than commercial success in my opinion. Transformers usually racks up a whole lot of money but is panned by audience and critics alike. Even people have started to form negative opinions on Michael Bay's work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1trus 4,341 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 On 7/18/2017 at 3:25 PM, sipthistea said: Beyoncé sells well with albums, but she's not that popular. Just look at the charts, no Lemonade song was THAT big. Rihanna follows the market and jumps into trends (Calvin Harris, Drake, DJ Khaled). Adele is Adele. I think she's overrated, but still very talented. I like your avi. When was that? ι'м ρυℓℓιηg үσυя sтяιηgs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1trus 4,341 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 No. Gaga released an album which was not trendy for spotify users who were entitled to EDM sh**s Younger generations thought that the latter genre is what we call "cool songs" in their existence so the radio stations rides with that. I don't know the situation on Katy tho. ι'м ρυℓℓιηg үσυя sтяιηgs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotGeigh 109 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 No I don't think it's age tbh I think the core reason is just Joanne isn't radio friendly at all (TC did outstanding for a no promo radio tune) and ppl are tired of Katy's gimmicks w no actual talent being shown to compensate for (not sayin she doesn't have any) Also, Rih and Adele are just 2 or 3 years younger than Gaga so I'm pretty sure that's close enough to be considered "too old for radio" too if that were the case.. but Rih makes trendy bops and Adele has the cinematic songs that are appropriate to stare out the window or have a silent car ride too so that explains their radio longevity and Gaga/Katy's lack of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 15,849 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 It's a combination of a few things but I'd disagree that age is one of those things, general consensus impacts the populous- for example the general opinion that madonna is no longer cool is why people today mostly don't like her and why she's likely to never get a hit again (even radio doesn't play her anymore). And the same goes for Gaga's generation of stars, the general consensus was that they aren't cool however, Gaga and Beyoncé are the only two being smart reinventing their image for the new generation and if they make a few more trendy hits (god knows hey need them) they'll be fine- they're also blessed because their persona and impact has lived on long enough alongside their talent because the new gen stars like miley, Selena and ariana all love bey and Gaga so their fans know about them and they love them too. They're on the cusp of new legend status if they survive another decade with hits and platinum albums they've achieved that status for sure, Gaga has outlived Katy because she did positive reinvention, changed her sound every album and used her talent and status to her advantage. Plus critics love Gaga way more and have praised her impact, just like how Beyoncé has outlasted britney and xtina with the same things; reinvention, talent and good PR. So I'd say PR, talent and knowing where trends are going is what will keep Gaga's generation alive career wise, but atm it seems like Gaga & Bey are the only ones who're gonna last. Bey's already had almost 3 generations worth of success (90s, 00s and 10s) and Gaga has had almost 2. Bey is matched with Madonna atm for the longest generational impact (3 decades) and if she survives into the 2020s she'll have outlasted Madonna's generational longevity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoxo Adriana 15,040 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Cher is relevant, she's 70 the charts could never Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Velvet 10,988 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, Kylie Jenner said: Cher is relevant, she's 70 the charts could never 51 during Turn Back Time. #3 in charts 58 during Believe. I'm like some kind of supernova Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sense8 182 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 R n B community streams everything (and massively) that has to do with RnB and HipHop tracks. On the other hand iTunes Digital sales are insignificant. Streaming Domination turned everything upside down. 2 years to release an album means you´ll be forgoten except if you´re Beyonce,which has the media,the radio,the critics,the streams,the audience. Everything she does has already been pre-approved. Old fashioned first single ,second single releases etc is bull@@@t. Joanne should´ve been released as an album,no first single. First single most of the times brings the opposite results on what the album is gonna be about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laceface 2,964 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 15 hours ago, Nemo said: ...which is why she came up with the face-hiding gimmick. I wish that weren't true. It's because she finds fame de-stabilising on her mental health & addiction past. Before Chandelier she had mediocre success and little media/paparazzi involvement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
i medici 1,746 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 16 hours ago, Bradley said: It's strange how it's harder for white female musicians to thrive nowadays. Wow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANGT 5,270 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 i think it's more complicated than just age, but it is part of it. They're more mature and making music for an audience with less influence than pre-teens and teens on the charts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoebe Buffay 12,525 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Lily Cruz said: 51 during Turn Back Time. #3 in charts 58 during Believe. Cher was 43 during If I Could Turn Back Time and 52 during Believe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeehawKylie 7,817 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Yes. Aging as a pop star is a difficult thing. You have to reinvent yourself and sometimes that is hard to do without losing your youthful base. Though Madonna was quite successful with it during Ray of Light, which kind of reinvigorated her career for another decade (in terms of radio-popularity). It also doesn't help that Perry and Gaga were huge at the cusp of streaming. They cannot entirely rely on streaming the same way artists like Ariana Grande can. Gaga especially, as her 'commercial failure' (but not really, though) occurred when streaming was catching on and kind of put her behind the streaming era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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