Lanius 1,055 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, Drin Lon said: Unfortunately The fact you want her to flop but you know she won't. Unless you're fave is Adele, you need to worry about there career, NOT Taylors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanius 1,055 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I think Beyonce is scared to release a single or an album in a traditional since. Ever since she flopped with 4, she can't release music, unless it involves some stunt like cheating rumors, surprise releases, films because she know her singles aren't going to do well. Thank god my fav can drop her music and sell a million in a week without stunts and smoke and mirrors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drin Lon 7,875 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 28 minutes ago, Lanius said: The fact you want her to flop but you know she won't. Unless you're fave is Adele, you need to worry about there career, NOT Taylors. Reptiles don't go extinct easily unfortunately, but even dinosaurs got extinct eventually, so I can't wait for that asteroid to hit Taylor right in the head Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Lanius said: Right, not these girls saying Taylor is scared more like smart because she doesn't wanna flop like Katy, who alienated her fan base with her Hillary Supporting. The GP doesn't like it when artist becomes activist, hence why Hillary lost even though she had that concert with Beyonce to tried to attracted voters lmao I don't believe that either. The majority of (non-country) artists have been supporting the Democratic nominee for decades without retribution. I don't think that Katy all of a sudden received unprecedented backlash. Her demise was shocking, but there were signs that it was coming even with the Prism era. Country artists are in a completely different position. The GP is okay with artists being activists. Country music fans are not as accepting and country radio will give an artist a death sentence for the wrong move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterPaws 2,726 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 54 minutes ago, Sycamore said: Let's not talk about how All About that Bass was anti skinny people. Ooooh true. I hated that line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,819 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Taylor Swift - She never takes a true musical risk (going pop is not a risk, country music sales were going right down, she changed her music one that was more popular). She doesn't let her music completely mature for fear of losing young fans. She won't put her political support out there for fear of being disowned by either side. She wants to be feminist to a certain extent but doesn't want to fully support the cause for fear of alienating the male media who might turn against her. Beyonce - She's now caught in a vicious cycle of dropping complete albums, she's too afraid to go back to the traditional route because she knows she won't have any successful singles that way (the never-heard-before single release recently, Die With You, which didn't even chart, is a prime example, not to mention other failed post-album releases like 7/11 and Ring Off). She's terrified to look like a flop, so has created a new standard for herself by dropping whole albums (but I sure hold her to the same standard). Also, if Kanye is to be believed, she didn't want to attend the MTV Awards unless she knew for sure she was winning Video of the Year, so she's clearly afraid to show up to award ceremonies unless she's going to win big. And like Taylor, she claims to be feminist but doesn't want to be too feminist, for fear of alienating male media and in her specific case, the black community (they have their issues with accepting feminism, but I digress). You'll notice that there wasn't a cheep out of her during Kesha's trial despite even Taylor having the guts to put her money where her mouth is on that one. Ed Sheeran - As his recent interview showed, he's willing to pass up very personal songs for hit material as per his label's request. It sounds like he listens a bit too much to these people and is willing to make a less personal album if it means better commercial reception and money. The same interview also showed that he has a huge fear of not being at the top anymore and his aim is to keep making the big-selling albums at all costs. It's like he fears that if he dips even the slightest, he'll never be able to come back. Rita Ora - Even after 6 years since her debut, the 2 shelved albums and the break up from her old label, she still isn't willing to take matters into her own hands and write her own songs. She can't seem to grasp that maybe she wouldn't have been in the sorry mess she is if she tried creating her own stuff without relying on others and having them determine her success. But I think she fears that she can't make a hit without considerable help. Her new song was written by just 2 people, one of which is Ed Sheeran, so she's likely hoping that the bigger the name that writes for her, the more success she'll have. Even on a song with that few people involved, she still can't try to even write one line? That's all you need for songwriting credits these days anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if she had a voodoo doll of Calvin Harris, honestly. Would say a lot about his recent single performances. 5 hours ago, JohnnyVersace said: Meghan Trainor. You can see how self conscious she is whenever she performs. She cakes on the makeup and only wears clothes that cover her up, even though she sings about embracing her curves. TBH I think she'd be WAY more successful if she owned her body a bit more. That's a good point. For someone who claims to be so comfortable with herself, she sure tries to cover her natural self up. She's drawn attention to her body multiple times, repeatedly stating that she likes herself just the way she is but it's like that phrase "the guilty dog barks the loudest." She seems to overstate stuff in a bid to convince herself. She did wear a miniskirt and those tights with stockings drawn on them when she was promoting All About That Bass but she'd lost a bit of weight back then, so I think she felt more comfortable with showing it off. But her new era showed that she'd put the weight back on and she was covering herself again. 4 hours ago, Lanius said: I think Beyonce is scared to release a single or an album in a traditional since. Ever since she flopped with 4, she can't release music, unless it involves some stunt like cheating rumors, surprise releases, films because she know her singles aren't going to do well. Thank god my fav can drop her music and sell a million in a week without stunts and smoke and mirrors. I don't often agree with the stuff you say, but this is where I'll make an exception. And I do have to hand it to Taylor that she doesn't need to do surprise releases to sell like she does and she still sells more than Beyonce first week. Adele and Ed are the same. And I think Beyonce realises that and wishes she could have that selling power that they do without a 'special' release. Her first week sales are great and all but when we know that there are those out there who can sell even better you wonder why such a big fuss gets made of them. 4 hours ago, Whispering said: I don't believe that either. The majority of (non-country) artists have been supporting the Democratic nominee for decades without retribution. I don't think that Katy all of a sudden received unprecedented backlash. Her demise was shocking, but there were signs that it was coming even with the Prism era. Country artists are in a completely different position. The GP is okay with artists being activists. Country music fans are not as accepting and country radio will give an artist a death sentence for the wrong move. I agree that supporting Democratic views have hardly done artists any harm. Gaga has always been very polarising yet she didn't seem to suffer any repercussions for supporting Hillary. Neither did Beyonce (yeah, she was at the end of her era, but still). I think the idea that displaying her political views were what did her in is just an excuse posed by Katy's fans. They just don't want to accept that the public simply weren't feeling the music. But if you're talking about Taylor with the second paragraph, I don't believe country radio even plays her anymore since she doesn't do that style now. I think even the CMAs sent her a tweet when she switched to pop to say good luck in her new venture because this meant that she was no longer going to get nominated at their ceremonies. Taylor doesn't want to be seen as country anymore, so being blacklisted by their radio is hardly a big deal to her now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanius 1,055 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: I don't often agree with the stuff you say, but this is where I'll make an exception. And I do have to hand it to Taylor that she doesn't need to do surprise releases to sell like she does and she still sells more than Beyonce first week. Adele and Ed are the same. And I think Beyonce realises that and wishes she could have that selling power that they do without a 'special' release. Her first week sales are great and all but when we know that there are those out there who can sell even better you wonder why such a big fuss gets made of them. Queen don't say that I live for you dragging Beyonce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,819 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Lanius said: Queen don't say that I live for you dragging Beyonce Well, if you want me to keep doing that, can I have free rein on saying about I like about Taylor as well? After all, it's hardly like what I say affects Taylor in any way and she's way richer and successful than I'll ever be even if I never buy her work. That's what got me through the first few years of Gaga's career when everyone was dragging her. It doesn't bother me now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanius 1,055 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 15 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: That's a good point. For someone who claims to be so comfortable with herself, she sure tries to cover her natural self up. She's drawn attention to her body multiple times, repeatedly stating that she likes herself just the way she is but it's like that phrase "the guilty dog barks the loudest." She seems to overstate stuff in a bid to convince herself. She did wear a miniskirt and those tights with stockings drawn on them when she was promoting All About That Bass but she'd lost a bit of weight back then, so I think she felt more comfortable with showing it off. But her new era showed that she'd put the weight back on and she was covering herself again. Omg, that remind me, remember in the NO video where they had the scene where all the girls were dressing sexy and in black half naked and they had one of the background dancers use her legs to cover her belly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanius 1,055 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Just now, StrawberryBlond said: Well, if you want me to keep doing that, can I have free rein on saying about I like about Taylor as well? After all, it's hardly like what I say affects Taylor in any way and she's way richer and successful than I'll ever be even if I never buy her work. That's what got me through the first few years of Gaga's career when everyone was dragging her. It doesn't bother me now. lol sis I'm just joking but yes you can drag Taylor as long as you drag Beyonce harder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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