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On Sunday, while discussing the Senate's proposal to replace and replace the Affordable Care Act (ACA, or "Obamacare"), White House counselor Kellyanne Conway told ABC's "The Week" that the people on Medicaid who will lose coverage under the Republican plan could find jobs that provide health insurance.

When the ACA expanded Medicaid coverage, Conway said, that "opened it up" to healthy people who could, theoretically, work. "Obamacare took Medicaid, which was designed to help the poor, the needy, the sick, disabled, also children and pregnant women, it took it and went way above the poverty line to many able-bodied Americans," she said, and they "should probably find other — at least see if there are other options for them."

Conway went on: "If they are able-bodied and they want to work, then they'll have employer-sponsored benefits like you and I do."

As Jonathan Cohn points out in the Huffington Post, however, Conway's reasoning is faulty: "the majority of able-bodied adults on Medicaid already have jobs. The problem is that they work as parking lot attendants and child care workers, manicurists and dishwashers ― in other words, low-paying jobs that typically don't offer insurance. Take away their Medicaid and they won't be covered."

Source: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/25/kellyanne-conway-those-on-medicaid-who-will-lose-insurance-can-get-jobs.html

 

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JusKeepBreathin

I can't wait until all the Republicans who thought they would get a "better" healthcare program are screwed. 

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr.
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Morphine Prince
Just now, JustLikeHoney said:

I can't wait until all the Republicans who thought they would get a "better" healthcare program are screwed. 

Honestly same. Yeah, it's petty but the time to be nice is long gone. 

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rumours

I agree in principle that all able-bodied people should work to make a living, but..... she really seems to have no basic understanding of the labor market..... 

Just now, Morphine Prince said:

Honestly same. Yeah, it's petty but the time to be nice is long gone. 

Yo..... I get that this administration is stocked full of idiots (I still get angry at the mention of Betsy DeVos' name), but spreading hate does no good. I don't identify as a Republican or Democrat (frankly I think both main parties are merely beacons of corruption), but I would never directly wish for someone to be screwed over by an inane Healthcare Bill - whether it be this crappy one just proposed or another form of healthcare implementation that I don't agree with. 

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HOTNebraskaGuy
3 minutes ago, Rumours1977 said:

I agree in principle that all able-bodied people should work to make a living, but..... she really seems to have no basic understanding of the labor market..... 

Yo..... I get that this administration is stocked full of idiots (I still get angry at the mention of Betsy DeVos' name), but spreading hate does no good. I don't identify as a Republican or Democrat (frankly I think both main parties are merely beacons of corruption), but I would never directly wish for someone to be screwed over by an inane Healthcare Bill - whether it be this crappy one just proposed or another form of healthcare implementation that I don't agree with. 

Honestly, how are you so relatable? :shocked:

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JusKeepBreathin
2 minutes ago, Rumours1977 said:

I agree in principle that all able-bodied people should work to make a living, but..... she really seems to have no basic understanding of the labor market..... 

Yo..... I get that this administration is stocked full of idiots (I still get angry at the mention of Betsy DeVos' name), but spreading hate does no good. I don't identify as a Republican or Democrat (frankly I think both main parties are merely beacons of corruption), but I would never directly wish for someone to be screwed over by an inane Healthcare Bill - whether it be this crappy one just proposed or another form of healthcare implementation that I don't agree with. 

I honestly don't care. I'm tired of being called a libertard and snowflake. I am not name calling. I just want them to understand that the Republican party as it is now does not care about the working class. And the only way they will see that is to experience Republican economics first hand.  I don't wish them harm, I only wish them to experience what they voted for.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr.
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17 minutes ago, Rumours1977 said:

Yo..... I get that this administration is stocked full of idiots (I still get angry at the mention of Betsy DeVos' name), but spreading hate does no good. I don't identify as a Republican or Democrat (frankly I think both main parties are merely beacons of corruption), but I would never directly wish for someone to be screwed over by an inane Healthcare Bill - whether it be this crappy one just proposed or another form of healthcare implementation that I don't agree with. 

But they voted for this lol they chose to have this new healthcare system over the previous one, and that change will be forced on millions who didn't vote for it, so enjoying it ****ing them over is more than ok imo

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rumours
4 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said:

I honestly don't care. I'm tired of being called a libertard and snowflake. I am not name calling. I just want them to understand that the Republican party as it is now does not care about the working class. And the only way they will see that is to experience Republican economics first hand.  I don't wish them harm, I only wish them to experience what they voted for.

Well, if you just say you "don't care", then that makes having any sort of meaningful dialogue completely impossible. That isn't how you engage in any permutation of constructive conversation.

Nevertheless, I agree that no one should call anyone derogatory names based on their political affiliation - I really am sorry you (or anyone) has had to go through that.:hug:

Finally, the idea that either of the two main parties actually cares about the working class is a fallacy. 

 

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ItsTommyBitch

Isn't that the crux of Conservative ideology these days? :usrs: 

"Not succeeding in life? Things out of your control (because of the government perhaps?) Get a job and get over it. Already have a job? Get a better job. Don't have a degree for a better job? Go to college and pay for it yourself. Can't pay for college? Work harder" :usrs: 

 

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15 minutes ago, neptugne said:

But they voted for this lol they chose to have this new healthcare system over the previous one, and that change will be forced on millions who didn't vote for it, so enjoying it ****ing them over is more than ok imo

I don't agree. 

That would be like saying the following: "Yay, the Republicans/Democrats will continue to spend money to the point where it sends us into complete disarray. I can't wait for everyone who voted for Democrats/Republicans to be screwed over when the debt becomes to large and it destroys our economy (and the world economy for that matter)".

 

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Morphine Prince
38 minutes ago, Rumours1977 said:

Yo..... I get that this administration is stocked full of idiots (I still get angry at the mention of Betsy DeVos' name), but spreading hate does no good. I don't identify as a Republican or Democrat (frankly I think both main parties are merely beacons of corruption), but I would never directly wish for someone to be screwed over by an inane Healthcare Bill - whether it be this crappy one just proposed or another form of healthcare implementation that I don't agree with. 

I mean this is what they voted for. My empathy can only go so far :shrug:

I'm fed up with the people in this country. 

Deep down I care but I don't have the energy for it if people themselves are screwing themselves over. 

I only feel for the people who didn't vote for this or who truly have no choice. 

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PartySick
6 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

I mean this is what they voted for. My empathy can only go so far :shrug:

I'm fed up with the people in this country. 

Deep down I care but I don't have the energy for it if people themselves are screwing themselves over. 

I only feel for the people who didn't vote for this or who truly have no choice. 

At the end of the day, I'll always feel for people...but same^ :sweat:

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