ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Joy Rose said: But it's your truth. It's your perception of those artists work. Based on what do you argue? Big impacts? Those Impacts only reflect the reaction other people had on the album but you should talk from your perspective. Something you see as important doesn't need to be important for me. I mean, these are pretty objective "truths", hence my use of the word truth... An acknowledgment of subjectivity is one of the only things that can be objective about something like quality. Joanne IS less well received than some other pop albums released recently that might be nominated. It did sell slightly better than some, but the history of nominations shows that that may not be important. It also had less "hits" if that matters. And I argue its effect on pop culture and music is minimal. You can love the album all you wish, but I don't think its fair to claim the album is anything more than it is because it outsold two other pop albums. I'm not sorry if that comes off as harsh or critical, it just is Meanwhile there are people in this thread and on this website that are claiming that because Joanne sold more FW than Melodrama or whatever that it's clearly the better album, when we all know thats not how quality is measured 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiddenWeirdo 4,277 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 26 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: I mean, these are pretty objective "truths", hence my use of the word truth... An acknowledgment of subjectivity is one of the only things that can be objective about something like quality. Joanne IS less well received than some other pop albums released recently that might be nominated. It did sell slightly better than some, but the history of nominations shows that that may not be important. It also had less "hits" if that matters. And I argue its effect on pop culture and music is minimal. You can love the album all you wish, but I don't think its fair to claim the album is anything more than it is because it outsold two other pop albums. I'm not sorry if that comes off as harsh or critical, it just is Meanwhile there are people in this thread and on this website that are claiming that because Joanne sold more FW than Melodrama or whatever that it's clearly the better album, when we all know thats not how quality is measured If you don't measure quality by selling figures then you shouldn't measure its quality by what critics say. Since the Grammys included Prism and Bangerz EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 24 minutes ago, Joy Rose said: If you don't measure quality by selling figures then you shouldn't measure its quality by what critics say. Since the Grammys included Prism and Bangerz EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE. I'm saying its a multifaceted approach I'm done responding, lol. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fame IV 4,426 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Joanne won A Star is Born ⭐ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatfoxyfeeling 13,038 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Won what though? No one cares about sales except stans, people care about reviews and Melodrama has received acclaim. You're all delusional if you think Joanne is going to win AOTY. It literally had no impact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drin Lon 7,875 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 There's a certain user who takes everything 100% seriously Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGOT2027 10,894 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 The only bling I care about are Grammys and it seems clear Melodrama will win over Joanne. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernster7 7,923 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Melodrama is such an overrated album, it's good and all but no way it deserves that MC score. Monsters never die. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabeoz 7,915 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Melodrama is decent album, my issue is that it just feels repetitive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXXXX 4,775 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 12 hours ago, sipthistea said: But The Pinkprint outsold Joanne that was released like 3 years ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus 4,485 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 12 hours ago, CyanLights said: Why is this a competition Have you forgetton how we were dragged during ARTPOP? Please! We have every right to make fun of this flop. -𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐅𝐀𝐌𝐄 𝐄𝐍𝐈𝐆𝐌𝐀™ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyanLights 15,576 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Spartacus said: Have you forgetton how we were dragged during ARTPOP? Please! We have every right to make fun of this flop. Oh trust me I understand, but looked what happened? Karma bit them in the butt worse this time around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus 4,485 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, CyanLights said: Oh trust me I understand, but looked what happened? Karma bit them in the butt worse this time around. Karma doesn't work that way. lol We were done wrong first so we're allowed this free of charge. lol -𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐅𝐀𝐌𝐄 𝐄𝐍𝐈𝐆𝐌𝐀™ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leecy 1,476 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 13 hours ago, funkyhaus said: Melodrama is the better album though is that your opinion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow 1,582 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Except on musical merrits/musicology sence (songwriting, production, instrumentalism, chord progressions, voicing, melodies etc etc) both are above Joanne so yeah... who did win and what. Ps. And why even bother? Why not just enjoy whatever album one prefers personnally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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