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Whispering
2 minutes ago, Simon said:

Basically justifying travel warning and being afraid to travel to Europe and then saying US is super safe. 

A travel warning means Intelligence Agencies has come across information that terror attacks are being planned. They share this intel with the countries involved, but then are under obligation to give US citizens the same general information. The travel warning wasn't at a level of "don't go" or "strongly advise against going". It is the same type of travel warnings they issue for air travel at different times in the states when they have certain intel. That doesn't mean that people stop flying. 

No one is saying anywhere is "super safe" right now. Both "sides" need to stop with the hysterical claims. It's getting ridiculous. 

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Morphine Prince
Just now, Simon said:

The chance you get hit by thunder is higher in Europe than dying in a terrorist attack, so yeah, still thinking it's stupid and creates fear out of nothing  but yeah, America can do whatever it wants, it doesn't effect me at all

 

Oh and actually it's a travel "alert" not a warning according to the website: 

"We issue a Travel Alert for short-term events we think you should know about when planning travel to a country. Examples of reasons for issuing a Travel Alert might include an election season that is bound to have many strikes, demonstrations, or disturbances; a health alert like an outbreak of H1N1; or evidence of an elevated risk of terrorist attacks. When these short-term events are over, we cancel the Travel Alert." 

Warning:

"We issue a Travel Warning when we want you to consider very carefully whether you should go to a country at all. Examples of reasons for issuing a Travel Warning might include unstable government, civil war, ongoing intense crime or violence, or frequent terrorist attacks. We want you to know the risks of traveling to these places and to strongly consider not going to them at all. Travel Warnings remain in place until the situation changes; some have been in effect for years."

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Whispering
10 minutes ago, Simon said:

I'm not saying that US is not safe. For me it's as stupid as saying Europe isn't safe. 

The Travel Warnings are no way justified in my eyes and just a trumpish thing to do.

Travel warnings (alerts) have been around far longer than Trump has been around and the travel warnings this summer in Europe did not come from Trump. 

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Melech
3 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

Oh and actually it's a travel "alert" not a warning according to the website: 

"We issue a Travel Alert for short-term events we think you should know about when planning travel to a country. Examples of reasons for issuing a Travel Alert might include an election season that is bound to have many strikes, demonstrations, or disturbances; a health alert like an outbreak of H1N1; or evidence of an elevated risk of terrorist attacks. When these short-term events are over, we cancel the Travel Alert." 

Warning:

"We issue a Travel Warning when we want you to consider very carefully whether you should go to a country at all. Examples of reasons for issuing a Travel Warning might include unstable government, civil war, ongoing intense crime or violence, or frequent terrorist attacks. We want you to know the risks of traveling to these places and to strongly consider not going to them at all. Travel Warnings remain in place until the situation changes; some have been in effect for years."

 

1 minute ago, Whispering said:

Travel warnings have been around far longer than Trump has been around and the travel warnings this summer in Europe did not come from Trump. 

okay fair enough! 

It's still not quite understandable or necessary for me, but it can for you, not gonna deny that. 

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Qualle1
45 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

Double standards of what? Idgi.

US-Americans being "scared to travel to the UK and France" because of (rare) Islamist terror attacks, nonetheless they are "feeling safe" in a country with more than 4.000 people shot dead and thousands injured within the first 100 days of 2017.

:awkney:

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Morphine Prince
1 minute ago, Qualle1 said:

US-Americans being "scared to travel to the UK and France" because of (rare) Islamist terror attacks, nonetheless they are "feeling safe" in a country with more than 4.000 people shot dead and thousands injured within the first 100 days of 2017.

Already responded to this saying I'm not scared but have to keep alert in mind regardless. 

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Qualle1
7 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

Already responded to this saying I'm not scared but have to keep alert in mind regardless. 

Of course I am happy for you Americans if you feel "safe" living in the USA, but do yourself a favour and stop saying Europe or especially "UK and France are to scary to travel because of terror attacks", when in fact very much more people are being killed on a daily basis in the USA in comparsion to European countries through gun violence/homicide.

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Qualle1
1 hour ago, Whispering said:

But that's like saying London isn't safe because there has been terrorists attacks this year. It's ridiculous to say London is unsafe and it us ridiculous to say that everywhere town where some husband had shot his wife (or vice versa) is unsafe for the other thousands of people that live there.

Would you feel unsafe in London right now? Do you think that everyone that lives there feels unsafe? 

 

I am feeling very safe in Madrid, Paris, Brussels, Berlin, London or any other European city - where terror attacks occurred.

In fact, I feel very safe in the entire European Union.

But to be honest, I wouldn't feel as safe in the USA - because of your abhorrent "gun violance/homicide" rates and your current "law on arms".

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Morphine Prince
17 minutes ago, Qualle1 said:

Of course I am happy for you Americans if you feel "safe" living in the USA, but do yourself a favour and stop saying Europe or especially "UK and France are to scary to travel because of terror attacks", when in fact very much more people are being killed on a daily basis in the USA in comparsion to European countries through gun violence/homicide.

I never said they were scary to travel to, etc. but it is a fact high tourist areas are potential targets in the summer when extremist terror attacks are more frequent.

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Whispering
14 minutes ago, Qualle1 said:

I am feeling very safe in Madrid, Paris, Brussels, Berlin, London or any other European city - where terror attacks occurred.

In fact, I feel very safe in the entire European Union.

But to be honest, I wouldn't feel as safe in the USA - because of your abhorrent "gun violance/homicide" rates and your current "law on arms".

I travel all over the US and feel very safe. I've been to most major cities and states and the big tourist attractions in the US and I've never been a victim of any type of crime, seen a gun or seen a gun crime being committed. I don't know a single person in my friend of family group who has ever been a victim of a gun crime. 

"I wouldn't feel safe in London because of what I've seen on TV. I'm applying the two instances of terror to what it must be like to live there or visit there 365 days a year, every year".........See how silly that is? 

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Qualle1
1 minute ago, Morphine Prince said:

I never said they were scary to travel to, etc. but it is a fact high tourist areas are potential targets in the summer when extremist terror attacks are more frequent.

But your friend @Gaga Monster said so inside of this thread and a lot of other US-American members on this board did so in previous threads, where we were discussing about terror attacks which occurred in Europe within the last couple of years:

"And how do you think Americans view Europe after a terrorist attack every week? I am scared to travel to the UK and France."

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Morphine Prince
7 minutes ago, Qualle1 said:

But your friend @Gaga Monster said so inside of this thread and a lot of other US-American members on this board did so in previous threads, where we were discussing about terror attacks which occurred in Europe within the last couple of years:

"And how do you think Americans view Europe after a terrorist attack every week? I am scared to travel to the UK and France."

Well, things like this depend on the individual and their experience. Some people get scared over things they see on the news. In fact, tourism declines anywhere there is an attack. I remember reading about how these attacks always affect the tourism industry. 

Of course if you are traveling to a very popular European city like London it will be in the back of your mind that extremists have called for attacks on locals and tourists. Popular cities might be larger targets. 

Imo that does not mean one should be scared but we just need to be aware of any threats :shrug: 

 

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Goosey
6 hours ago, Qualle1 said:

US-Americans being "scared to travel to the UK and France" because of (rare) Islamist terror attacks, nonetheless they are "feeling safe" in a country with more than 4.000 people shot dead and thousands injured within the first 100 days of 2017.

:awkney:

Well, some American gun owners are worried about going to the UK or France because in America they can carry their Glock and in the UK or France, they can't. Makes sense to me.

I'm on several gun forums and every so often there are questions about what kind of discrete defensive items people can bring on foreign vacations where guns aren't allowed (usual recommendations are pens, canes, walking sticks, etc).

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Qualle1
1 hour ago, Goosey said:

Well, some American gun owners are worried about going to the UK or France because in America they can carry their Glock and in the UK or France, they can't. Makes sense to me.

I'm on several gun forums and every so often there are questions about what kind of discrete defensive items people can bring on foreign vacations where guns aren't allowed (usual recommendations are pens, canes, walking sticks, etc).

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How bad is the video?

I don't want to be shielded from the realities of the world but I also want to be able to sleep tonight. :ohno:

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