freebit 6,240 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 This timing was intentional on Taylor's part for sure. Taylor is in charge of her own business affairs and is her own manager. That said, this is not causing Katy to underperform - Katy has been doing that all on her own. Is this making for a terrible comparison and not helping at all? Yes. 1 minute ago, Despacito said: Katy announced Roar first. & then Gaga announced Applause for another date but at the last minute moved it to sabotage Katy. Don't try it Applause leaked and the links were spread by P*rez, hindering its rollout. So no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despacito 333 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 1 minute ago, freebit said: This timing was intentional on Taylor's part for sure. Taylor is in charge of her own business affairs and is her own manager. That said, this is not causing Katy to underperform - Katy has been doing that all on her own. Is this making for a terrible comparison and not helping at all? Yes. Applause leaked and the links were spread by P*rez, hindering its rollout. So no. Ok but she still moved it. Other artists don't care about leaks and still continue with the original rollout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shmal96 2,928 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Or maybe Witness just isn't that good? No Katy hate, I do like her music but I did not like Witness at all. And it's impossible to say if Katys streams would be better if Taylor didn't release, youre just assuming Taylor fans would go and stream Witness instead. Katy has a huge banner on the front page of Spotify too so it's not like Taylor blocked her promo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Just now, Despacito said: Ok but she still moved it. Other artists don't care about leaks and still continue with the original rollout Even Madonna, a music veteran with a big fanbase was forced to rush release Rebel Heart after the leaks. Same thing happened with Lana Del Rey, who is kind of under-the-radar. She had big plans for Love's rollout and was upset when it leaked, but went ahead and threw it out there early. All these artists made the right decision. It makes more sense just to bite the bullet and officially release it after a leak, especially if it's the lead single rather than to pretend nothing is happening. It allows your fans to officially purchase it rather than pirate it amongst themselves. You miss out on a profit otherwise (this is how they make their living after all). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinTrudeau 2,419 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Wait, I thought Taylor Swift was against streaming and prefers Apple Music over Spotify because Apple was more fair? Or did I miss out on some news? I'm so confused. I fell down the stairs once as an actor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sass bonbon 430 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 8 hours ago, neptugne said: How is Taylor responsible for Katy's poor streams? Everyone who was gonna listen to Witness just decided to listen to 1989 (a nearly 3 year old album) instead? on the same date, there's that. How is Taylor not responsible? LOL We blame Katy for her poor single choices but she should profit from this feud too, since Tay Nay already did. (as much as Katy can profit these days tho) bbhmm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie 5 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 18 minutes ago, ZarinStar said: Wait, I thought Taylor Swift was against streaming and prefers Apple Music over Spotify because Apple was more fair? Or did I miss out on some news? I'm so confused. Nope. She hated streaming until Katy released an album. You didn't miss anything, Taylor is just that petty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bette Davis 12,742 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 I feel bad for Katy, but the lackluster response to her album isn't Taylor's fault at all. It was such a dirty move, but it's pretty entertaining ngl. If Taylor just owned her pettiness and stopped pretending to still be America's little sweetheart, she wouldn't bother me Cold as ice cream, but still as sweet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreak 6,653 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Winning Always Talent Katy: Makes a song calling Taylor a bitch three years later, makes several shady tweets including ones that praise Taylor getting some bad press, discusses it on Carpool Karaoke, discusses it in a recent interview Monsters: Omg go Katy! She's so mature and reserved! Taylor: Makes a song that never calls out anyone specifically, never speaks about feud after release. Still hasn't mentioned Katy Monsters: Petty! Snake! Hate her! Take a moment to think of just flexibility, love, and trust~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, Bette Davis said: I feel bad for Katy, but the lackluster response to her album isn't Taylor's fault at all. It was such a dirty move, but it's pretty entertaining ngl. If Taylor just owned her pettiness and stopped pretending to still be America's little sweetheart, she wouldn't bother me Taylor pretends to be Reese Witherspoon in Sweet Home Alabama, but she is really Reese Witherspoon in Election. I agree, she needs to own it! The person she pretends to be is boring and borderline irritating. Her personality is duplicitous and that of a Wall Street shark, but it is at least interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreak 6,653 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 50 minutes ago, ZarinStar said: Wait, I thought Taylor Swift was against streaming and prefers Apple Music over Spotify because Apple was more fair? Or did I miss out on some news? I'm so confused. Her label renegotiated royalty contracts with Spotify so I guess they fixed what she had an issue with Take a moment to think of just flexibility, love, and trust~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 73,878 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Perdid said: on the same date, there's that. How is Taylor not responsible? LOL We blame Katy for her poor single choices but she should profit from this feud too, since Tay Nay already did. (as much as Katy can profit these days tho) Lmfao in what world is a 3 year old album being uploaded gonna prevent people from listening to a thoroughly promoted, brand new one, from an A-list pop star? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 2 hours ago, theahsfan said: I hated Taylor before and I hate her even more now. To deliberately sabotage another artist's album release is ****ing messed up, especially as Katy clearly put so much effort into it Oh god, people really get this upset over this ****? Get a life, tbh. If Witness was actually good, her streams would have been higher It's business, it's not rainbows and ponies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sass bonbon 430 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 16 minutes ago, neptugne said: Lmfao in what world is a 3 year old album being uploaded gonna prevent people from listening to a thoroughly promoted, brand new one, from an A-list pop star? You're disguising your words man. 3 year old album, sure, still more successful than any of Katy's. Also it was the whole discography, not just one album. Katy's new album has already being called a flop by an A List actress (Ruby Rose), before it was even released. All because of the feud with an ACTUALLY very successful A lister and far more liked popstar, Taylor Swift. This makes audiences not even give it a try in the first place because they previously declared it wasn't going to happen. It's shady that she released her music through streaming just on this date when she declared her hate for streaming before, and it's not like fans are blind. bbhmm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 73,878 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Perdid said: You're disguising your words man. 3 year old album, sure, still more successful than any of Katy's. Also it was the whole discography, not just one album. Katy's new album has already being called a flop by an A List actress (Ruby Rose), before it was even released. All because of the feud with an ACTUALLY very successful A lister and far more liked popstar, Taylor Swift. This makes audiences not even give it a try in the first place because they previously declared it wasn't going to happen. It's shady that she released her music through streaming just on this date when she declared her hate for streaming before, and it's not like fans are blind. Ruby Rose is far from an A-list actress, that would be Angelina Jolie, Nicole Kidman, Viola Davis. Also you're acting like Katy isn't the only woman (and 2nd person EVER) to get 5 #1 singles off one album, not to mention one of the biggest songs in both 2013 and 2014. Katy is huge, America just isn't here for Witness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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