The Senate 359 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I think that banning them is not okay. America is supposed to be a democracy where people should be able to vote for who they want to lead their country and express their opinions. Sure, they voted for someone who may not be as pro-LGBT as they thought, but that doesn't mean they should be completely banned from going. They want to go to Pride for the same reason every LGBT person does; to celebrate who they are. Why shouldn't they be able to do that? I don't get how people can say they believe in free speech, but then try and silence and suppress those who have the 'wrong' opinions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Slayne 4,154 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, jeabus1 said: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ If you scroll down the site a little bit, it has individual documentation of each attack. Do they have documentations of attacks and murders of white Christians too? miss me with that biased bs that only serves to spread hurtful stereotypes about certain religion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeabus1 78 Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, John Slayne said: Do they have documentations of attacks and murders of white Christians too? miss me with that biased bs that only serves to spread hurtful stereotypes about certain religion 802 people dead in the name of Islam in just 13 days, with the body counting growing by the hour and you want to derail to talk about a few mentally ill people who happen to be Christian? PS. Why make it about race and "White people". Islam isn't a race, it's an ideaology, and a religion. You aren't born "Muslim". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Slayne 4,154 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, The Senate said: I think that banning them is not okay. America is supposed to be a democracy where people should be able to vote for who they want to lead their country and express their opinions. Sure, they voted for someone who may not be as pro-LGBT as they thought, but that doesn't mean they should be completely banned from going. They want to go to Pride for the same reason every LGBT person does; to celebrate who they are. Why shouldn't they be able to do that? I don't get how people can say they believe in free speech, but then try and silence and suppress those who have the 'wrong' opinions. nobody banned them from going, they can still go as gay individuals, it's just that 90% of the community doesn't really appreciate putting homophobes on pedestal and giving them platform would you also like to see other anti-gay groups with posters at Pride? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 hour ago, jeabus1 said: So basically "we don't agree, so you don't have a right to be represented." Arrogance personified. Was there any atheist pro-life groups at the anti-abortion march VP Pence marched in? Stop trying to make a political statement out of a steaming pile of #$%&. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liza 618 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just now, John Slayne said: sources of muslim attacks only I'm tired of people pretending like Christian extremism isn't a thing, especially when IRA existed and when the US suffered from attacks on abortion clinics Haha of course, that's what fits their rhetoric. No record of hate crimes against Muslims which are highly prevalent following terror attacks. AND it misses out recent killing of the two people who defended the Muslim lady on the train. Also a complete side note but I don't know if I'd call the IRA a Christian extremist group. Of course Catholicism and nationalism/republicanism are linked but religion wasn't the main focus of the IRA like religion is for radical Islamic groups. Other than that I agree with you though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Slayne 4,154 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just now, jeabus1 said: 802 people dead in the name of Islam in just 13 days, with the body counting growing by the hour and you want to derail to talk about a few mentally ill people who happen to be Christian? Christian terrorism is a thing too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bombings_during_the_Northern_Ireland_Troubles_and_peace_process https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence#United_States Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talent 9,333 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 "But the Muslims...": This was fun. Bye, y'all. 🔵 - Banned because I quoted a stupid meme. Literally. So, yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senate 359 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 minute ago, John Slayne said: nobody banned them from going, they can still go as gay individuals, it's just that 90% of the community doesn't really appreciate putting homophobes on pedestal and giving them platform would you also like to see other anti-gay groups with posters at Pride? I doubt they will start spouting anti-gay stuff though. "Gays For Trump" aren't really an anti-gay group. Plus, i would hate to see people holding up anti-gay signs and protesting as i'm sure there may be but they have that right to do so. Therefore, i'm not going to stop them. I'd just carry on with enjoying myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsterish 5,520 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 This debate is so stupid, like I really mean, so no-sense and useless that all that I'm going to say is fck the gays4trump, latins4trump, women4trump, muslims4trump and that minorities whose don't-give-a-fck this idiot and fascist President And I don't even live in US... This world makes me mad sometimes, omfg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 29 minutes ago, jeabus1 said: This. This is what no one understands about why people voted for Trump. Because we wanted someone, ANYONE, who isn't completely controlled by lobbyists and the deep state, like Obama, Hilary, George Bush, Bill Clinton, George Bush Sr., etc. etc... We don't expect him to be perfect, or know everything he's doing. It's part of the reason we chose him, because 30 years of establishment politics has put us trillions of dollars in debt, and in too many wars we had no business in. But he is controlled by the NRA, takes money from Saudi Arabia (for which he condemned Hilary) and steels money from kids with cancer. You really can't defend him anymore. Stop being ridiculous. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeabus1 78 Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said: But he is controlled by the NRA, takes money from Saudi Arabia (for which he condemned Hilary) and steels money from kids with cancer. You really can't defend him anymore. Stop being ridiculous. Lol if you think the NRA actually has enough power to "control" the president, you are delusional. The right to bare arms is a constitutional guarantee. The NRA stands up to people who would deprive us of that right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Slayne 4,154 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Senate said: I doubt they will start spouting anti-gay stuff though. "Gays For Trump" aren't really an anti-gay group. Plus, i would hate to see people holding up anti-gay signs and protesting as i'm sure there may be but they have that right to do so. Therefore, i'm not going to stop them. I'd just carry on with enjoying myself. would that be safe tho??? like you think mixing anti-gay protest with Pride is a good thing because they also have they right to free speech? no. they have no place at Pride, if they want speak their mind, they can make their own protest or circle-jerk or whatever the case might be as for "Gays For Trump", that group is inherently homophobic because Trump is openly homophobic and the fact that they happen to be GAYS for Trump doesn't change the fact that it's homophobic and therefore goes against the very core message of Pride Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeabus1 78 Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 minute ago, John Slayne said: would that be safe tho??? like you think mixing anti-gay protest with Pride is a good thing because they also have they right to free speech? no. they have no place at Pride, if they want speak their mind, they can make their own protest or circle-jerk or whatever the case might be as for "Gays For Trump", that group is inherently homophobic because Trump is openly homophobic and the fact that they happen to be GAYS for Trump doesn't change the fact that it's homophobic and therefore goes against the very core message of Pride Gays for Trump are not anti-gay at all. That is beyond delusional. That is the image you WANT us to be. Gays for Trump simply aren't single issue voters. There are more pressing matters in the world than transgender bathroom rights. Trump IS NOT openly homophobic. He is the only President who campaigned openly supporting LGBT rights, and gay marriage. Even Obama, who, to his credit, was in office when gay marriage was legalized, didn't support it during his campaign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, jeabus1 said: Lol if you think the NRA actually has enough power to "control" the president, you are delusional. The right to bear arms is a constitutional guarantee. The NRA stands up to people who would deprive us of that right. What...you keep defending him? What's your defense about him hiring everyone at Goldman and Sachs? "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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