What About Us 1,499 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/07/politics/comey-testimony-trump/index.html (CNN) - James Comey's 7-page opening statement in advance of his testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee Thursday about his relationship with Donald Trump in the months before the president fired him as FBI director reads like a novel. It's the sort of document that will go down in the annals of political history -- a sweeping condemnation of Trump's conduct in regard to both Comey and the ongoing federal investigation into fired national security adviser Michael Flynn. (You can read the whole thing here or my analysis of the whole thing here.) But, there's one exchange between the two men in the testimony that stood out to me as a perfect encapsulation of how radically different they are. Here it is in its entirety: "Near the end of our dinner, the President returned to the subject of my job, saying he was very glad I wanted to stay, adding that he had heard great things about me from Jim Mattis, Jeff Sessions, and many others. He then said, 'I need loyalty.' I replied, 'You will always get honesty from me.' He paused and then said, 'That's what I want, honest loyalty.' I paused, and then said, 'You will get that from me.' As I wrote in the memo I created immediately after the dinner, it is possible we understood the phrase 'honest loyalty' differently, but I decided it wouldn't be productive to push it further. The term -- honest loyalty -- had helped end a very awkward conversation and my explanations had made clear what he should expect." Talk about two ships passing in the night. Trump, aggressive and oblivious to the rules of engagement, making a direct pitch to the FBI director for loyalty -- and suggesting strongly that his future employment depended on the answer. Comey, all nerdy bureaucrat well aware of the lines being crossed, insisting all he could offer Trump was his honesty. Trump, a dealmaker used to always getting his way, hearing what he wants to hear and deciding the agreed-upon phrase "honest loyalty" means Comey is good with the deal. Comey, knowing he wasn't good with any sort of deal, says nothing to "end a very awkward conversation." And, scene. Everything you need to know about the two men is contained in that single exchange. Everything. As is all the evidence you need to understand why they would never have any sort of working relationship. And why this was always fated to end badly. Promise I'll always be there. Promise I'll be the cure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Why does this read like this is supposed to be an expose on why he was fired and how they were incompatible work partners when it should be focused on how his testimony affects the Russia situation 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manicholic 3,694 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, HeavyMetalKnee said: He then said, 'I need loyalty.' I replied, 'You will always get honesty from me.' He paused and then said, 'That's what I want, honest loyalty.' There's nothing harder for people to do than admit they were fooled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
What About Us 1,499 Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just now, manicholic said: I can definitely see a similarity, lol. Promise I'll always be there. Promise I'll be the cure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
What About Us 1,499 Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just now, ItsTommyBitch said: Why does this read like this is supposed to be an expose on why he was fired and how they were incompatible work partners when it should be focused on how his testimony affects the Russia situation Honestly, I'm not sure, but I'm thinking this might be a part of something bigger. Promise I'll always be there. Promise I'll be the cure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 The drama, jfc 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chuckles 2,549 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, Lion Heart said: 100% agree, this is just high school gossip and bs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,983 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Lion Heart said: 56 minutes ago, Chuckles said: 100% agree, this is just high school gossip and bs Y'all obviously don't understand the nuance in the report. It's a lead up, to the day that Comey was fired. It's intent and evidence that Comey was fired because of his unwillingness to follow Trump's direct loyalty and break protocol and obstruct justice. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckles 2,549 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 11 minutes ago, FATCAT said: Y'all obviously don't understand the nuance in the report. It's a lead up, to the day that Comey was fired. It's intent and evidence that Comey was fired because of his unwillingness to follow Trump's direct loyalty and break protocol and obstruct justice. I do understand but this is short of any "most telling line" someone would expect... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,983 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just now, Chuckles said: I do understand but this is short of any "most telling line" someone would expect... Ah, I thought you were just addressing the entirety of his opener, my bad. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckles 2,549 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 minute ago, FATCAT said: Ah, I thought you were just addressing the entirety of his opener, my bad. No worries, let's see what happens tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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