Is Lana del Rey losing her touch?

[theahsfan 13,822]

1 hour ago, Benji said:

I'd advise listening to her albums in full and in this order - Born To Die -> Paradise -> Honeymoon -> Ultraviolence.

I suppose if you want a small taste of her general sound, here's some songs that are kind of fan favourites and some of my personal faves -

Born To Die
Diet Mountain Dew
National Anthem
Lolita
Ride
Cola
Ultraviolence
West Coast
Music To Watch Boys To
High By the Beach
Freak
The Blackest Day

Where's Brooklyn Baby at?

[theahsfan 13,822]

1 hour ago, littlemonsterL5 said:

I am about to get ended but here it goes...

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My favourites

[Supersonic 49,376]

I felt the same way about about her music going downhill after Paradise, but I actually regained hope after Love and Lust For Life.

[siniaki 49]

No, next /thread

[StrawberryBlond 14,881]

Admittedly, her music hasn't been as good to me since BTD. I think every album has got worse since then. But when I say "worse," I mean "a small iota worse than the last." All her albums have perfect scores from me. But each one is slightly worse than the last, but not enough to drop a star rating. Every album has excellent tracks and the worst ones are average at worst and there's very few of them. This era, Love is taking a while to truly be considered excellent, I'm in love with Lust for Life and Coachella (please let it be included) and Cherry (the small bit of it I heard). I have no idea what some of her fans say when they consider her to be declining as of late. I have a feeling this album night settle nicely between UV and Honeymoon for me, hopefully it's going to be a real return to form.

To get an idea of my views towards her 'worst' music, here's my least favourite tracks per album:

Born To Die - Diet Mountain Dew

Paradise - Burning Desire

Ultraviolence - Brooklyn Baby, F****d My Way Up To The Top, Guns and Roses, Florida Kilos, Flipside

Honeymoon - Terence Loves You, Art Deco

As you can see, BTD and Paradise only had one lesser track each (understand that this is practically an impossibility for an album reviewed by me), UV had 2 lesser tracks (the rest were bonus tracks, thank God for that, or that album would have been very problematic for me) and Honeymoon also had 2, but the other other tracks were a bit lesser overall. The difference in quality is minute.

2 hours ago, Lona Delery said:

no, the way she sang on BTD and Paradise was the reason for all the bad live performances. She tried to sing lower than she could cuz she thought people might take her more serious than if she used her comfortable range. Also, Honeymoon features some of Lana's best vocals. Take the title track or Terrence Loves You, she never sounded as good as on these two tracks.
Her airy and hauntingly beautiful vocals on Ultraviolence were literally the reason I started stanning Lana.
This album is so raw and unpolished, it was really refreshing to hear something like this, especially because I thought Lana was talentless and manufactured due to the polished, flawless sound of BTD.

And she's not losing her touch, at least not for me. It sounds like everyone who agrees with you wants to stan a pop girl; but Lana is not a pop girl. BTD was the closest she ever came to officially releasing pop music. No surprise pop fans will be disappointed with her newer stuff.

Plus, BTD is definitely not her best work. It's overproduced and the mixing is horrible; just take a look at Video Games for example, the way it overrides in the last chorus makes it hard to enjoy it. If she tried to go back to her BTD sound, this would be a horrible step-back from all the artistic growth she's experienced. It wouldn't sound fresh and come off as a try to recreate her success from the BTD era. 

I like her newer work much more than BTD and Paradise, and Lana continues to deliver. The only thing I miss are the Americana-inspired lyrics, but Lana has obviously grown out of this imagery. 

Hmm, rather surprised you weren't a fan from the beginning. I was a fan even when people didn't believe in her in that awful start she got. I didn't get why people couldn't see how talented this amazing woman was. I think people just get so caught up in wanting to seem credible with their music choices and they were a bit harsher on her because we're naturally harsher on women (which is ridiculous, women are the ones making all the best music and they have to twice as good as a man to be considered half as good). I never thought her style was mainstream at all. She made such a risk with her debut and it paid off. I didn't understand why so many people dropped her after that moment but weirdly, the critics grew to like her more and more.

[Lona Delery 7,214]

1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said:

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Hmm, rather surprised you weren't a fan from the beginning. I was a fan even when people didn't believe in her in that awful start she got. I didn't get why people couldn't see how talented this amazing woman was. I think people just get so caught up in wanting to seem credible with their music choices and they were a bit harsher on her because we're naturally harsher on women (which is ridiculous, women are the ones making all the best music and they have to twice as good as a man to be considered half as good). I never thought her style was mainstream at all. She made such a risk with her debut and it paid off. I didn't understand why so many people dropped her after that moment but weirdly, the critics grew to like her more and more.

Why surprised? But I didn't dislike her because it was popular. Back then, I've literally only listened to Gaga and noone else, I had the opinion everyone else is inferior and not worth my attention, it was nothing personal against Lana. I was 13 at the time BTD was released, so I really didn't know what others thought about her; I only remember our local radio praising her and playing Video Games hourly. And it was not that I hated her. Summertime Sadness (no, not the remix) was my bop back in fall 2012. I am really happy I saw someone back in 2014 having an Ultraviolence signature on here which lead me to discovering my most favorite artist now.

 

[HausOfMark 4,279]

I have loved all her albums. she gets better and better by the album. 

[BibleThisWay 4,370]

I've really enjoyed all her albums thus far but she just has no growth. Like the shift from BTD to UV was quite significant, she found her sound with UV but she just hasn't grown as an artist or a songwriter at all. Any song written from UV to now could be on the exact same album and they'd sound cohesive because she doesn't try anything new or progress

[StrawberryBlond 14,881]

16 hours ago, Lona Delery said:

Why surprised? But I didn't dislike her because it was popular. Back then, I've literally only listened to Gaga and noone else, I had the opinion everyone else is inferior and not worth my attention, it was nothing personal against Lana. I was 13 at the time BTD was released, so I really didn't know what others thought about her; I only remember our local radio praising her and playing Video Games hourly. And it was not that I hated her. Summertime Sadness (no, not the remix) was my bop back in fall 2012. I am really happy I saw someone back in 2014 having an Ultraviolence signature on here which lead me to discovering my most favorite artist now.

Because considering your username and avatar, you seemed like a longtime fan. Most of Lana's fans have also been there since the beginning. What I said wasn't necessarily directed at you, it was just a speculation of how the public in general reacted. It's like, when a guy starts out, no one questions how he got his career or his indie credentials. But with a woman, she gets ripped apart if it's rumoured that she bought her career with her rich family's money or she isn't as experimental as she claims. I was 20 when BTD came out and when I'd first heard Video Games, I really didn't know what to make of her. I think I was thrown by something that sounded so different from all the EDM around at the minute. But then she grew on me and grew on me. I listened to her album on the week of release, I was a bit wary of some tracks but I just re-listened to them because they were still compelling. Slowly, I fell in love and I bought the album about 2 months later. Her music grows on me like no one else can and a lot of her fans say the same thing.

[Guest]

I'm a huge Lana fan but so far from what I've heard, aka Lust for life and Love, it's mediocre. Lust for life has lost a little bit of its vintage feeling which is her signature, it got more of a The Weeknd vibe and maybe his influence has something to do with the different sound we got, it's a subtle difference and yet it changes everything.

One of my fav songs of hers

 

[retroglamx 5,177]

20 hours ago, Lona Delery said:

no, the way she sang on BTD and Paradise was the reason for all the bad live performances. She tried to sing lower than she could cuz she thought people might take her more serious than if she used her comfortable range. Also, Honeymoon features some of Lana's best vocals. Take the title track or Terrence Loves You, she never sounded as good as on these two tracks.
Her airy and hauntingly beautiful vocals on Ultraviolence were literally the reason I started stanning Lana.
This album is so raw and unpolished, it was really refreshing to hear something like this, especially because I thought Lana was talentless and manufactured due to the polished, flawless sound of BTD.

And she's not losing her touch, at least not for me. It sounds like everyone who agrees with you wants to stan a pop girl; but Lana is not a pop girl. BTD was the closest she ever came to officially releasing pop music. No surprise pop fans will be disappointed with her newer stuff.

Plus, BTD is definitely not her best work. It's overproduced and the mixing is horrible; just take a look at Video Games for example, the way it overrides in the last chorus makes it hard to enjoy it. If she tried to go back to her BTD sound, this would be a horrible step-back from all the artistic growth she's experienced. It wouldn't sound fresh and come off as a try to recreate her success from the BTD era. 

I like her newer work much more than BTD and Paradise, and Lana continues to deliver. The only thing I miss are the Americana-inspired lyrics, but Lana has obviously grown out of this imagery. 

I wanna have your kids. Preach it sister. I agree with all of this.

 

[n0ne 13,105]

Lana's still got it and will always have it. Her voice and vocals still slay.

I find it hilarious some of you say you love Ultraviolence or that it's favorite your Lana album, but yet you criticize for Honeymoon for having bad pacing, too slow/boring songs, and songs that sound too similar. I mean that's the biggest oxymoron, that criticism perfectly embodies Ultraviolence levels more than Honeymoon.

Spoiler

Don't get it wrong, I love all Lana's albums; but if we're not counting AKA, Ultraviolence is her weakest album  There's a reason Honeymoon is her best received album 

 

[PeachJug 3,082]

SHE HAS DONE NO WRONG.

BTD was great, pop-y and everyone tends to love

Same with Paradise^

ULTRAVIOLENCE was an AMAZING album, probably her saddest and darkest, also very adventurous artistically (also love those guitars)

Honeymoon was super california james-bondy amazing swoony magic

LFL sounds great so far, happier than the rest 

[MaryJaneHolland 77,348]

I was all about Lana a few years ago, BIG fan. 

But, isn't it kinda boring to be a fan of hers? I mean, last time she was promoting her music was with Paradise. She always just drops the album, releases those vintage, Instagram filter videos and does many photo shoots with interviews spoken with a lot of metaphor which I certainly cba to go deep into and try to understand  That's all. That's how her eras have been since UV. And a bunch of unreleased songs that no one can keep up with leak as well.

I love Born To Die. I like Paradise and UV. I don't like Honeymoon at all (there are a couple of good tracks tho: Salvatore, Religion, MTWBT, HBTB and The Blackest Day). 

[AlexanderMagno 10,746]

I find her voice to be even better than before. I recently listened to BTD album and I was amazed at how her voice has grown very naturally. She sounds so much more confident.