Katy Presents New Look

[Bebe 17,106]

59 minutes ago, ArtPLAUSE said:

I don't think anyone was serious in claiming that people should sue her for the look - then again, I can't read mind (but so can't you).

These comments all seem to suggest that Katy Perry looks very similar to Brooke Candy (don't even know who she is, only heard one song from her, but from the picture someone posted, she really does), or to people who are apparently well known for that hairstyle (Kardashian). Pointing out that the look has roots in the black community is completely irrelevant to all these comments. I'm not saying you should've kept it for yourself, I'm just saying I see no reason to quote users who made comparisons on appearances with a history of the look, because it had nothing to do with what they were saying and it just looks like the usual tired racebait.

Posting pics of random blak girls out of random blogs, or a still of Rihanna on a vacation won't really change the fact that Kate Perry literally looks like this Brook Candy girl in the pic.

I didn't assume that people were serious about the idea that Brooke Candys should sue either  But it does come with clear undertones that Katy is jacking 'her' style.

I didn't actually quote anyone, I made one comment pointing out that none of the girls mentioned own that trademark style, that it's a popular style within a community and then people quoted me  Of course it's relevant to point out race in this situation, my point is that that it's a popular hairstyle for black women... How can Katy be jacking the style of Kim Kardashian??? Kim Kardashian is rocking a popular hairstyle that happens to originate in black communities. How can Katy be jacking the style of someone who is rocking a popular hairstyle? A lot of people wear their hair like that! It's not unique, it's not something Kim made trendy. It's as silly as claiming Nicki is jacking Beyonce's style because she has worn straight hair - a lot of people wear straight hair. Beyonce doesn't own 'straight hair' she doesn't have some trademark on it, she has nothing to do with making it trendy, it always has been for a lot of people.

You're trying to pretend the conversation is "Brooke Candy has similar facial features and hair colour and also rocks the same hairstyle" but that's clearly oversimplifying... Kim Kardashian looks nothing like Katy Perry, Iggy looks nothing like Katy Perry, Christina Aguilera looks nothing like Katy Perry... The entire thread is filled with people talking about her hair and braids... The conversation is about the hairstyle and people are literally talking about how she looks like a Kardashian wannabe.... People are talking about the hair and how she is jacking people's style.

The 'pics of random blak girls out of random blogs, or a still of Rihanna on a vacation', as I've already explained, show that it's a popular hairstyle  It points out how ridiculous it is to claim or imply that Katy Perry is jacking the style of these white women when it's always been a popular hairstyle in African American communities. It's totally relevant to what they are saying, people are claiming that Katy is jacking Kim/Brooke/Iggy/Xtina's style, I'm pointing out that it's a popular style already and not at all unique.  

It's weird though, lets imagine for a second that those braids had originated in Europe and been a popular style for white women. If I'd posted a ton of pictures of white women rocking braids to show that it's been a trendy and popular style since forever in order to show how ridiculous it is to claim that Katy is jacking these women's style as if it's original - would you have been like "Why does it matter that all these white girls rock braids??"

I feel like people wouldn't be so upset... Like my argument is that it's already a popular and trendy style, my point is that Katy isn't copying them of jacking their style because the style has been popular since before all of them. If I showed a bunch of white girls who had been rocking the braids since before the Kardashians/Brooke Candy/Iggy/Xtina, the point would be clear - those girls don't own that hairstyle... It's nothing new or unique... It's a popular hairstyle.

Why is it suddenly 'irrelevant' when I point out it's a popular hairstyle that many black women rock? I'm just pointing out that it's a popular and trendy hairstyle, that it's been trendy before any of those girls wore that style, it just happens to have originated and be popular within black communities  They count though... Like, it's a popular style.

I'm just pointing out it's a popular hairstyle, it seems ridiculous to claim Katy is jacking the style of Kardashian/Brooke/Iggy/Xtina when it's already been a trendy and popular look since forever.

I really don't even see how it's a controversial topic. Kardashian/Jenner/Brooke/Iggy/Xtina don't own the look, you can't rip them off by wearing that hairstyle, it's been a popular thing since before any of them decided to try it on.

[HANZ 4,380]

I miss the old Katy tbh

[ArtPLAUSE 1,252]

55 minutes ago, Bebe said:

I mean it is kinda super interesting that people here are like "Kim Kardashian clone!!" "Brooke Candy should sue ha!" "Iggy???" and then deny that white people make black styles cool and trendy  

I just think it's interesting that Katy Perry wears a style popular in the black community and everyone starts saying she is copying other white girls and acting like those girls own that style

Of course it's relevant to point out race in this situation, my point is that that it's a popular hairstyle for black women...

It's as silly as claiming Nicki is jacking Beyonce's style because she has worn straight hair - a lot of people wear straight hair. Beyonce doesn't own 'straight hair' she doesn't have some trademark on it, she has nothing to do with making it trendy, it always has been for a lot of people.

You're trying to pretend the conversation is "Brooke Candy has similar facial features and hair colour and also rocks the same hairstyle" but that's clearly oversimplifying... Kim Kardashian looks nothing like Katy Perry, Iggy looks nothing like Katy Perry, Christina Aguilera looks nothing like Katy Perry...

It's weird though, lets imagine for a second that those braids had originated in Europe and been a popular style for white women. If I'd posted a ton of pictures of white women rocking braids to show that it's been a trendy and popular style since forever in order to show how ridiculous it is to claim that Katy is jacking these women's style as if it's original - would you have been like "Why does it matter that all these white girls rock braids??"

Why is it suddenly 'irrelevant' when I point out it's a popular hairstyle that many black women rock?

It was not relevant to point out race in that situation simply because no one had said anything about white people making black styles cool. People were simply saying that Katy Perry looks like other celebs with the same hairstyle, who - suprise - happen to be light-skinned and with blonde hair just like her. Of course the similarity is more striking. It doesn't matter is Xtina looks EXACTLY like KP, because Gaga looks nothing like Xtina neither, yet comparisons were made in 2008/2009 - for a hairstyle.

So yeah, of course posts here revolved around similar looks among celebs, and had little to do with how popular the style is within average people, let alone within a racial (!) community.

I suppose we can follow your example regarding popular styles for white people, Nicky, Beyonce, and straight hair. Afaik, straight hair with bangs are "white culture", to use your lingo. Yet, comparisons were made between Nicky and Beyonce - I recall that perfectly. Of course it had nothing to do with how popular the style is, or with who created it. People were just comparing similar looks - dark, straight hair with bangs, on dark skin.

At the same time, I don't remember anyone doing what you did for Katy Perry: do you think people pointed out that is was a "white girl style", and that black people were trying to make white culture hip, or were committing some kind of cultural appropiation? If someone did, be reassured that yes, I would find it weird and comment on that, too. Of course, I can't really respond on your exact example, because no one would post comments regarding race, had this KP look been created in Europe (or, had KP been black).

I really feel that no one was trying to discuss race or anything and you just stormed in with your agenda - discussing cultural appropiation from white people. It wasn't the topic at hand at all, since KP is a popstar and she presented a new look, not a new philosophical approach to racial issues. We were just discussing looks, comparing her to famous people, and for some reasons this had to turn into another racebait thread.

[Bebe 17,106]

55 minutes ago, ArtPLAUSE said:

It was not relevant to point out race in that situation simply because no one had said anything about white people making black styles cool. People were simply saying that Katy Perry looks like other celebs with the same hairstyle, who - suprise - happen to be light-skinned and with blonde hair just like her. Of course the similarity is more striking. It doesn't matter is Xtina looks EXACTLY like KP, because Gaga looks nothing like Xtina neither, yet comparisons were made in 2008/2009 - for a hairstyle.

So yeah, of course posts here revolved around similar looks among celebs, and had little to do with how popular the style is within average people, let alone within a racial (!) community.

I suppose we can follow your example regarding popular styles for white people, Nicky, Beyonce, and straight hair. Afaik, straight hair with bangs are "white culture", to use your lingo. Yet, comparisons were made between Nicky and Beyonce - I recall that perfectly. Of course it had nothing to do with how popular the style is, or with who created it. People were just comparing similar looks - dark, straight hair with bangs, on dark skin.

At the same time, I don't remember anyone doing what you did for Katy Perry: do you think people pointed out that is was a "white girl style", and that black people were trying to make white culture hip, or were committing some kind of cultural appropiation? If someone did, be reassured that yes, I would find it weird and comment on that, too. Of course, I can't really respond on your exact example, because no one would post comments regarding race, had this KP look been created in Europe (or, had KP been black).

I really feel that no one was trying to discuss race or anything and you just stormed in with your agenda - discussing cultural appropiation from white people. It wasn't the topic at hand at all, since KP is a popstar and she presented a new look, not a new philosophical approach to racial issues. We were just discussing looks, comparing her to famous people, and for some reasons this had to turn into another racebait thread.

"It was not relevant to point out race in that situation simply because no one had said anything about white people making black styles cool."

If i'm going to point out that something is a popular style, I need to point the people who... you know... wear that style? It's popular style for African American women - that's a fact not a criticism of white people

"People were simply saying that Katy Perry looks like other celebs with the same hairstyle, who - suprise - happen to be light-skinned and with blonde hair just like her."

No  that's once again clearly oversimplifying things... People said the look 'screams Wannabe Kardashian Thot' that's not "Oh Katy Perry kinda looks similar to Kim!" It's "She is a wannabe Kim K"

People said "Lol wtf, Brooke Candy sue this wannabe gangsta".  That's not "Oh Katy looks similar to Brooke!" It's "Katy is jacking Brooke's style". 

Your trying to build a strawman. It's weak. People were attributing the hairstyle to these women as if they are unique, trademark looks and trends that they have started. I simply pointed out that it's a popular style that a lot of black women wear  


"It doesn't matter is Xtina looks EXACTLY like KP, because Gaga looks nothing like Xtina neither, yet comparisons were made in 2008/2009 - for a hairstyle."

Which is a trend people attributed to Gaga, it wasn't already a trendy, popular style... The double dutch braids are a popular, trendy look already... Which is what I pointed out...

"I suppose we can follow your example regarding popular styles for white people, Nicky, Beyonce, and straight hair. Afaik, straight hair with bangs are "white culture", to use your lingo. Yet, comparisons were made between Nicky and Beyonce - I recall that perfectly. Of course it had nothing to do with how popular the style is, or with who created it. People were just comparing similar looks - dark, straight hair with bangs, on dark skin."

LMAO what are you talking about? People didn't accuse Nicki of jacking Beyonce's hairstyle - that would be dumb. It's a popular hair style. They may have compared the two (although your evidence is just "I recall perfectly") but nobody accused Nicki of jacking Bey's style  Your comparison makes no sense.

"At the same time, I don't remember anyone doing what you did for Katy Perry: do you think people pointed out that is was a "white girl style", and that black people were trying to make white culture hip, or were committing some kind of cultural appropiation?"

Firstly, I haven't even mentioned cultural appropriation my gosh.

In my very first post I wrote: "I don't want to get into fights with people like "But black people don't own a hair style!!!" cause that's not even what I'm saying"
In my second post I highlighted this quote: "To be clear, everyone can rock french braids, extensions, cornrows, and candy-colored hair"

I didn't criticise white girls trying to make black styles 'hip' and to accuse me of that is to simply totally misread and misconstrue what I wrote... I said that the styles were already popular and trendy before Brooke, Iggy and the Kardashians hopped on the trend (which is just a fact), that it's dumb to accuse Katy of jacking their style when it isn't their style to being with (It's already a popular hair style), and that it's ridiculous to act as if Brooke Candy and all these white girls have a trademark on a hairstyle that's already popular and trendy within the black community  


Like... You're just making things up. My point was very simple "Katy can't be jacking the style of these people, I mean look - these women having been wearing it since forever... It's a popular look."


"I really feel that no one was trying to discuss race or anything and you just stormed in with your agenda - discussing cultural appropriation from white people."

All I did was point out that it was a popular hairstyle and that plenty of people wore it! It just happened to be a popular hairstyle black women have worn since forever  I didn't criticise Kim/Brooke/Iggy or anyone for wearing their hair like that... I didn't criticise Katy for wearing her hair like that... I just pointed out that it was a popular hairstyle and that it seems dumb to imply Katy is jacking these girls style when it's already a popular look....

If Katy Perry wore a hairstyle that was popular in Britain and someone pointed out "Hey, this has been a really popular trend in the UK for a really long time. This isn't some trend Katy has created" would you be here like "It's irrelevant to point out that these people are from the U.K, why are you trying to make out that Katy is stealing from 'British culture'?"

I doubt you would... It really seems like an overreaction to be acting as if I'm trying to spark a race war over pointing out that a particular hairstyle is popular with African American women  

[911 16,707]

Gurls come down Wtf

[ArtPLAUSE 1,252]

14 minutes ago, Bebe said:

 My point was very simple "Katy can't be jacking the style of these people, I mean look - these women having been wearing it since forever... It's a popular look."

All I did was point out that it was a popular hairstyle and that plenty of people wore it!... I just pointed out that it was a popular hairstyle and that it seems dumb to imply Katy is jacking these girls style when it's already a popular look....
 

No. Your point was that people on this forum deny that white people are trying to make black styles trendy and cool - you might wanna read again your own posts - which was unnecessary and OT, and now you're backtracking

[Bebe 17,106]

13 minutes ago, ArtPLAUSE said:

No. Your point was that people on this forum deny that white people are trying to make black styles trendy and cool - you might wanna read again your own posts - which was unnecessary and OT, and now you're backtracking

You're confusing your points

You accused me of saying that these white girls were trying to make 'black culture' hip. You accused me of criticising these girls for 'cultural appropriation'. I didn't do that.

I did write:

"I mean it is kinda super interesting that people here are like "Kim Kardashian clone!!" "Brooke Candy should sue ha!" "Iggy???" and then deny that white people make black styles cool and trendy"

and

"I just think it's interesting that Katy Perry wears a style popular in the black community and everyone starts saying she is copying other white girls and acting like those girls own that style"

Which I stand by  In those quotes I am saying that it's dumb to associate Kim K, Iggy and Brooke Candy with those trends when it's a popular style within the black community. 

I literally say that it's interesting that people are acting like those girls 'own that style' and that people are accusing Katy of 'copying other white girls' when she 'wears a style popular in the black community'.

I don't at any point criticise anyone for wearing that hair though  

In my second post here I clarified further and added on to what I wrote saying:

"The point is that you can't be here like "lol she is copying this white girl, this white girl, this white girl and this white girl" when it's a common black hairstyle and these artists (most of them like Brooke Candy and Iggy are rappers and Kim K is married to one) are clearly taking inspiration from the urban, black community.

I showed a range of pictures that drove home that point that it was a popular hairstyle for African American women and that it wasn't white (or black) celebrities that made this style popular... It's been popular since forever..."

Which is exactly the same as what I'm telling you when I said:

" My point was very simple "Katy can't be jacking the style of these people, I mean look - these women having been wearing it since forever... It's a popular look."

 

[ArtPLAUSE 1,252]

3 minutes ago, Bebe said:

You accused me of saying that these white girls were trying to make 'black culture' hip. You accused me of criticising these girls for 'cultural appropriation'. I didn't do that.

No, I didn't. I said you are bringing race into a thread that had nothing to do with it, criticizing GGD users unnecessarily, which

3 minutes ago, Bebe said:

I did write:

"people here [...] deny that white people make black styles cool and trendy"

you did.

Your OP had nothing to do with the popularity of the look itself but only revolved on race, and on (some) GGD users being ignorant. As I said, nothing to do with KP's hairstyle and people's comments on it.

[GagaMyBlood95 9,915]

Those boobs

But I do have to say she reminds be of a Kardashian sister with this look  

[Bebe 17,106]

26 minutes ago, ArtPLAUSE said:

No, I didn't. I said you are bringing race into a thread that had nothing to do with it, criticizing GGD users unnecessarily, which

you did.

Your OP had nothing to do with the popularity of the look itself but only revolved on race, and on (some) GGD users being ignorant. As I said, nothing to do with KP's hairstyle and people's comments on it.

Then I misunderstood, but when you wrote "I don't remember anyone doing what you did for Katy Perry: do you think people pointed out that is was a "white girl style", and that black people were trying to make white culture hip, or were committing some kind of cultural appropiation?"

It seemed very much like you were accusing me of criticising these women for cultural appropriation

In terms of this "I said you are bringing race into a thread that had nothing to do with it" I think it does  It's nice of you to cut up one sentence from EVERYTHING I've written and rip it out of context.

In this thread people accused Katy Perry of jacking the style of certain white female celebrities due to their shared hairstyle - I pointed out that I found it interesting that people acted like Katy was ripping of the style of those girls and acting like those girls own that style when it's a popular black hairstyle.

In terms of 'criticizing GGD users unnecessarily' that's something very new, and not something you have mentioned before - you're suddenly making a big deal out of one sentence in a post you didn't even quote me about.

The comment was pretty casual, based on the conversations I've had here before. It wasn't intended to be read as a scathing criticism of all GGD users  

If you're really going to try and make this about what is essentially a throwaway line - that I didn't mention in any further comments then whatever  but it's dishonest to claim that it's what I've been talking about when it comprises of one sentence and it's pretty lame to suddenly bring it up now as if it's been your issue all along.


For the vast majority of this conversation - your argument has basically been that you think people were comparing Katy Perry to artists like Brooke Candy and Kim because they look similar and that everyone in this thread had just been comparing looks - not accusing Katy of stealing their style  

Anyway, I'm heading off to bed - It's super late (or early in the morning technically) and I should have gone to bed hours ago. I'm tired, making dumb spelling mistakes and my mind is numb. Continue if you want, just don't expect me to respond within 8 hours.

 

[ArtPLAUSE 1,252]

13 minutes ago, Bebe said:

Then I misunderstood, but when you wrote "I don't remember anyone doing what you did for Katy Perry: do you think people pointed out that is was a "white girl style", and that black people were trying to make white culture hip, or were committing some kind of cultural appropiation?"

It seemed very much like you were accusing me of criticising these women for cultural appropriation

In terms of this "I said you are bringing race into a thread that had nothing to do with it" I think it does  It's nice of you to cut up one sentence from EVERYTHING I've written and rip it out of context.

In this thread people accused Katy Perry of jacking the style of certain white female celebrities due to their shared hairstyle - I pointed out that I found it interesting that people acted like Katy was ripping of the style of those girls and acting like those girls own that style when it's a popular black hairstyle.

In terms of 'criticizing GGD users unnecessarily' that's something very new, and not something you have mentioned before - you're suddenly making a big deal out of one sentence in a post you didn't even quote me about.

The comment was pretty casual, based on the conversations I've had here before. It wasn't intended to be read as a scathing criticism of all GGD users  

If you're really going to try and make this about what is essentially a throwaway line - that I didn't mention in any further comments then whatever  but it's dishonest to claim that it's what I've been talking about when it comprises of one sentence and it's pretty lame to suddenly bring it up now as if it's been your issue all along.


For the vast majority of this conversation - your argument has basically been that you think people were comparing Katy Perry to artists like Brooke Candy and Kim because they look similar and that everyone in this thread had just been comparing looks - not accusing Katy of stealing their style  

Anyway, I'm heading off to bed - It's super late (or early in the morning technically) and I should have gone to bed hours ago. I'm tired, making dumb spelling mistakes and my mind is numb. Continue if you want, just don't expect me to respond within 8 hours.

 

My point has always been that people were comparing KP to random celebs because said celebs are known for that particular look, and that seeing popstars with similar hairstyles always leads to comparisons, especially if there are other common features (white, blonde).

I did not quote you on your OP because I caught up on the discussion of your OP - didn't feel the need to start back from scratch. However, I don't think I've taken anything out of context because I quoted the entirety of your OP later on in the conversation - multiple messages before you accused me of bringing it up now. I also don't happen to think that writing something only once makes a difference tbh.

 

[Miel 15,009]

Ummm... she looks cute- very typical white girl IG baddie look.

[911 16,707]

3 minutes ago, Miel said:

Ummm... she looks cute- very typical white girl IG baddie look.

Thank you for that normal comment

[StrawberryBlond 14,934]

Oh, wow. Multiple thoughts came into my head with this one. First - she wore this hairstyle a while back, only the braids were black and she wore a gothic corset and cross with it. This is like a popular girl version of that same look. Next, she looks like Kylie/Kim Kardashian - I saw them have this colour of hair once and they love taking selfies in high cut one-pieces (especially photoshopped ones like this). Then she reminded me of Teyana Taylor in Kanye's Fade video - similar outfit and she's all oiled up! Then I remembered Iggy was wearing that hairstyle a while back as well as Brooke Candy. Judging by the comments, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one. She's really going back to mainstream hot looks, isn't she? I think she knew she went too far with this conservative look she had going on with CTTR and the shorter and shorter hair caused a lot of conclusions to be drawn. Rihanna went through a cropped hair phase with Rated R and went right back to wavy bobbed hair and super-girly looks the very next year with Loud. It happens. But Katy's going to be dragged so hard if she sells out everything she preached with CTTR with this one.

And rocking the braids will obviously lead to cultural appropriation claims. I spoilered the next part debunking this theory, for those who are interested...

@Bebe

 

Spoiler

 

I really think you are underestimating white people's intelligence and assuming their brains operate in a different way to black people's and in a less efficient way. Of course no two brains are the same but you seem to think that white minds and black minds are completely different entities that you can make blanket statements about.

Most of us associate something with the most recent example of it in our minds. I have not seen a single black celebrity wearing this style recently, just white celebrities, so naturally, my brain picked out the most current example from the filing cabinet. This is not to say that I am unaware of the origins of this style or erasing any examples of it from black people throughout history, I am merely associating a hairstyle a celebrity is wearing with the same hairstyles that other celebrities are wearing. Most celebrities take inspiration for their looks and art from other celebrities, not random civilians like you and I. They pick things that have proved to be popular recently among others of their celebrity status. So, I could totally believe that Katy got this idea through looking at the recent parade of white celebrities who have been wearing this style. When she cut her hair super short, people immediately said that she stole that look from Miley Cyrus and no one had a problem with that statement. Apparently, when a celebrity leaches onto any element of art or style that another celebrity is doing, they are copying that celebrity, fair and square but when what they're leaching onto has roots in black culture, they're not copying the celebrity in question, they're copying the originators of that look? Eh? Double standard.

When I see certain black hairstyles that are being made popular by black celebrities right now, I will associate with them. Bantu knots were just a hairstyle to me in the past, but ever since Rihanna started wearing them, I'd say that other celebrities wearing them now, black or white, were being inspired by her. So, how is this any different to comparing Katy's inspiration to other white celebrities who just so happen to be white, wearing braids? And you are free to make anything your trademark. Not official trademark, of course, style operates under a different kind of trademark, the kind that says: "Everyone else is free to look like me, but if you do, be prepared to be called out for where you got your inspiration from." You wouldn't be so militant to point out this stuff if it involved literally any other kind of style that is used by every culture on earth. Taylor Swift has made red lips her trademark, even though Xtina made this her trademark 6 years before her, yet I don't see anyone accuse her of stealing that off Xtina. Apparently, white women can trademark a red lipstick look with no problem, in fact, red lipstick has been associated with white women over many years...even though the first ever lip-staining started out in the middle east, followed by Greek, Egyptian, Mayan and Aboriginal cultures, basically cultures that were not white or weren't 'technically' white. Yet, I don't see any white women get accused of cultural appropriation by wearing lipstick or suggest that only women who come from the specific region of Spain where the first solid lipstick was invented should be considered the originators of the product. This is not because whites have selfishly stolen the look or stopped the originators of the culture from wearing it, lipstick has just taken over the culture of the entire world to a point where it doesn't 'belong' to anyone and there's no solid reasoning behind citing it as cultural appropriation. If we start militantly pointing out where each and every piece of style originally came from, we'll become insufferable.

Look, I'm Scottish. But if an American celebrity chooses to wear a kilt or dye their hair red, I don't care. Even if they started popularising it to the point where its Scottish heritage going back centuries isn't brought up, I still wouldn't care. In fact, considering that I have red hair myself, I would welcome any embracing and normalising of red hair, considering that it's still such a stigma to have it, even in this day and age. I love to see anyone being considered beautiful when they have red hair, whether it's natural or dyed, because then my natural appearance is closer to being accepted. Now, drawing on a parallel here, naturally, I would take issue with anyone who suggested that only dyed red hair is pretty, not the tone of natural red-haired people. But I write those people off as an ignorant isolation and have optimisim that not all people out there believe this.

Thing is, the solution to 'cultural appropriation' never makes sense. Look up the MTV decoded video about the topic and skip to the end where the question: "So can I not enjoy another culture?" comes up. The solution is that we should just ask someone from that culture if it's ok (even though this very idea was cited as not reliable enough earlier in the video) and that it's ok to indulge in the culture as long as we actually research that culture. But that's exactly what a lot of these so-called 'cultural appropriators' were already doing! And they were still told that they couldn't do it!

Finally, this all goes back to what I started with - assuming that all white people think the same way, they all have the same beliefs and motivations and draw the same conclusions. Some of these white people that you accuse of being ignorant and racist could in fact have a degree in sociology or history or simply have knowledge about cultures that you do not. I was the star pupil in my Modern Studies class at high school, studied sociology at university, have a degree with merit of Religious Studies from one of the best universities in the world and I have been a fan of and studying rap music for years, and that doesn't even touch on all the Hispanic culture I grew up on through my mother's job and love of Latin dance. Not all white people are ignorant to foreign culture and it's high time that those assumptions stop. For it to be suggested that I'm ignorant purely based on the colour of my skin is one of the most offensive things that has ever been said to me (and it only happened for the first time last year, which tells you something about how SJW culture has made race relations worse, not better). Start assuming that white people actually have intelligence, we're always being told about how we can afford the best education because we're all so rich, after all (doesn't that stereotype fall flat on its face when you really think about it?). Stop assuming that white people are idiots and once you've done that, you'll realise that the whole cultural appropriation thing is nonsense and was designed just to make white people feel like s**t. And because I said that, I'm not merely "a headstrong woman standing up for herself and the good people from her culture." I'm "a spoilt, selfish, ignorant racist white bitch with first world problems" through the eyes of an SJW.

 

 

[Jasen 71]

I think Katy can only look iconic with black hair tbh