Gaga and this "tropical" sound

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4 minutes ago, LittleLocoCoco said:

Lol, anyone can produce music. This is not tropical.

It is, Dylan confirmed it 

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2 minutes ago, Slappy said:

It is, Dylan confirmed it 

Dylan can suck it, preferably 

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1 hour ago, androiduser said:

We never thought she would do a trendy song in the middle of the Joanne era, and now we have to find excuses for Gaga following a trend

This. Up until yesterday this forum was shoving on people's faces how Gaga never follows a trend and how tropical is generic and basic. Now they try to find excuses for the basicness 

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26 minutes ago, LittleLocoCoco said:

Lol, anyone can produce music. This is not tropical.

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10 minutes ago, Bio said:

This. Up until yesterday this forum was shoving on people's faces how Gaga never follows a trend and how tropical is generic and basic. Now they try to find excuses for the basicness 

they really got a slap in the face from Gaga herself

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anybody calling this tropical knows no history of R&B.    At least in my head I hear a ton of R&B influences.  The intro synth sound is about the only thing I'd associate with "Tropical."

 

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1 hour ago, OMonster said:

I will be so sad if this doesn't smash. 

Generally, I do not care about the charts at all. My view is that Gaga doesn't serve the charts - she is too experimental to be confined to commercial acclaim. I am glad about that, too. It's why I love her. Some of her best songs would never be chart hits. Doesn't that say it all?

But for The Cure, it'll be kind bemusing if it doesn't do well. That's what would be worrying. It's literally what is in right now. If it doesn't do too well, I guess we know the music isn't the problem... it's the GPs appetite for Gaga that is. 

If that's the case, at least Gaga and her team can have it confirmed that the GP will not let her smash anymore, and that they should just cut their ties with trying. From this, she can literally do whatever she wants - bound to nothing and bound to no one. She can release as experimental music as she wants and be as free as she desires. I mean, after C2C and Joanne, the monsters that are still here will be here for good. We'll back her through anything now, I believe. 

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Of course, I do want it to smash. But I'm just looking at it from a different angle... how this 'flopping' will also help her steer in a more focused and decisive direction. 

 

That is a very good way of looking at it. The Cure does seem like an experiment in that sense to see if the public just aren't keen on the sound Gaga's putting out or if they are averse to Gaga herself regardless of the music she makes. So, its chart performance really will be telling and it's why I hope it smashes. If it does, it's a sign that the public are just very uniform with their tastes right now and all Gaga needs to do to stay relevant and sell well is to make a couple of songs per album that are public friendly and promote them well, which will ensure that she can still make an album that she likes, just a bit more conscious of what the public want. It'll also mean she can continue to tour, sell out shows, make high budget music videos, make more albums in general. Honestly, I hope her team realise that whatever happens, promo could really make the song sell. Some artists don't need it, others do and Gaga is definitely in that stage now because it's only really her fans who are buying her stuff currently. She needs to put herself out there if she wants to sell regardless of how commercial the song is. She just doesn't have that power of putting a song out and have it do well because of name recognition, she lost that power after 2011. Even if she can't sell albums like she used to, if she could still have a big smash single per album, that would tide her over, keep her name out there, ensure that no one thinks she's a has been. Unless she gets Beyonce's PR team, she has to put herself out there if she wants to sell. Now she's in her 30's, she's going to fade away completely in this sexist, ageist business if she doesn't get a handle on what the public want. We saw Britney's commercial success fade away when she entered her 30's and let's not even touch on Xtina. It happened to Madonna and Mariah too. It's even happening to Katy now. Turning 30 is a dangerous time for female artists, particularly in pop. If making a more public pleasing song is what is going to get Gaga through this tough age transition and get the public supporting her, then that's what it will have to take.

And a side note, for what it's worth, the song's currently at #1 on UK itunes and has been for hours now. Even Katy couldn't do that with CTTR. This is the same Katy Perry who had all her lead singles go to #1 in the UK, including Part Of Me. So, if Gaga can achieve the #1 position for any length of time, that's testament to how much people can be open to her. I mean, this is just a song performed at Coachella, not on a major primetime tv show and yet it's slaying on itunes. The Cure is charting better than Harry Styles' new song which is only in its second week of release. That's got to count for something.

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Honestly I was confused at first too, until I realized that we didnt like tropical house, and we dont even know if she hates as much as we do. I do think of this song as a strong experiment of the trends, but Perfect Illusion was too, considering it's trendy 80's influence.

But no matter what, I'm here for her experimenting with whatever she wants, and the cure is quite amazing, tropical or not!

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36 minutes ago, LittleLocoCoco said:

Lol, anyone can produce music. This is not tropical.

It may not be what people in tropical regions listen to traditionally, but it is what we call "tropical house" or at least influenced by it

OT: Yes Gaga does it better than her peers, but I feel like she will still be less successful with it 

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This reminds me of the Pitchfork review of Fame Monster that shows Lady Gaga as being a better version of every pop star at the time and each song belonging to another type of pop star but her just decimating and being incredible at it. Same with The Cure. You cannot get me to listen to a song like that on the radio usually (and I'm a huge poptimist too so...) but this "tropical" (it's not) song has fine writing chops, an adorable lyrical sense, and shows just how good she is at  polymorphing at different forms. Can't complain about it at all, I love it, and I cried when she sang it to the audience (and I suppose all her fans livestreaming)

 

It's real fashion of her tbh 

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What if she releases the video and it becomes her first MV to hit 1B 

What if it tops the BB Hot 100 for months at a time 

What if it becomes the best selling female single of the year 

What if it becomes one of her signature songs like BR and PF 

SO MANY POSSIBILITIES WITH THIS SALYAGE SHE'S PRESENTING TO US 

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2 hours ago, LittleLocoCoco said:

No, just no.

Uh...yes. The verses are 100% in the tropical house category that's prevalent right now, while the chorus is a classic Gaga chorus. 

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Coming from a person with a BS in Music, this is not "tropical" I don't even know what that means tbh. Do you mean Reggaeton? Calypso? Mambo? What are you talking about?

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16 minutes ago, brownie said:

Uh...yes. The verses are 100% in the tropical house category that's prevalent right now, while the chorus is a classic Gaga chorus. 

Uh...no.

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15 minutes ago, nathantj594 said:

Coming from a person with a BS in Music, this is not "tropical" I don't even know what that means tbh. Do you mean Reggaeton? Calypso? Mambo? What are you talking about?

Dancehall house maybe?  idk the current music trends aren't even really tropical; that's just what pop fans are calling it. It's like, dancehall pop I think.