venusian 4,686 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 hour ago, LG said: Those innocent people in IS territory are used as human shields and exploited/tortured to keep land, its the exact reason they interweave themselves into civilian areas, because there's less option to bomb them and combat them. I know its a tricky question but what else is the US supposed to do? Without intervention IS will claim a large part of the middle east through mass murder and terrorism, we cant exactly just 'mind our business' either because those countries being compromised poses a very significant threat to our existence too. KILLING INNOCENT CIVILIANS IS NOT THE ANSWER WELCOME TO THE TRAGIC KINGDOM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venusfly 17,885 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Just now, venusian said: KILLING INNOCENT CIVILIANS IS NOT THE ANSWER Nobody disagrees with that... but what is the alternative when IS use innocent citizens as a buffer to deter bombing?? As little citizens as possible are harmed when these bombings take place, but it is entirely impossible to not harm any. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KURUSHITOVSKA 20,451 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Cocaine Heart said: So then, the solution is just to kill them all ? Number one is accepting refugees, creating safe zones, supporting and contributing way more in humanitarian aid ... All military intervention does is magnify the recruitment for terrorist organizations. Daesh exists because of the invasion of Iraq. I get what you mean and you're right but on the other hand, their solution is to kill everyone too, i know fire doesnt kill fire but... ¿Qué currículum tiene ésta tarántula? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo 8,151 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 oh no, I wonder how many innocent people died this time, this is so sad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo 8,151 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, KURUSHITOVSKA said: I get what you mean and you're right but on the other hand, their solution is to kill everyone too, i know fire doesnt kill fire but... 20 minutes ago, LG said: Nobody disagrees with that... but what is the alternative when IS use innocent citizens as a buffer to deter bombing?? As little citizens as possible are harmed when these bombings take place, but it is entirely impossible to not harm any. that's really a hypocritical thing to say, so if ISIS dropped a bomb in the US would you be all like, "welp war is war, at the end people die"... I highly doubt it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venusfly 17,885 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Ricardo said: that's really a hypocritical thing to say, so if ISIS dropped a bomb in the US would you be all like, "welp war is war, at the end people die"... I highly doubt it If a terror group was sweeping through my country beheading and torturing everyone who didn't bow down to them i would rather bombs fell to kill the terrorists than get beheaded by the terrorists... people seem to have this picture of civilians coexisting among terrorists and getting caught up in bombfire going about their business. this is not the case. the civilians are specifically used by IS to be near enough to them to prevent people bombing IS so they can expand more and kill more people, they are forced to fight for them or do other things for them otherwise they are killed. the alternative is to stop bombing them and let them slowly capture an entire destablised region and use that region's weaponry to intimidate or wipe out entire western countries i guess? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SychosSoChic 9,995 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 @Cocaine Heart Til It Happens To You When America finally has to fight a war on their own land, and foreign nations drop bombs on them to keep undesirable elements down, we'll see how opinions change. But until then, forget about who destabilized the area in the first place, it's not relevant Life ain't Hollywood for any one of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 39 minutes ago, SychosSoChic said: @Cocaine Heart Til It Happens To You When America finally has to fight a war on their own land, and foreign nations drop bombs on them to keep undesirable elements down, we'll see how opinions change. But until then, forget about who destabilized the area in the first place, it's not relevant That's something I often think about, how would the react if this stuff happened in countries the west thinks actually matter? and don't say "finally" as if it should happen, war should be kept away from American soil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SychosSoChic 9,995 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Born To Slay said: and don't say "finally" as if it should happen, war should be kept away from American soil. It's not a "should", it's a "when". So you're cool with people dying as long as it's not on American soil? You may want to rephrase that mess of a statement. Life ain't Hollywood for any one of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 minute ago, SychosSoChic said: It's not a "should", it's a "when". So you're cool with people dying as long as it's not on American soil? You may want to rephrase that mess of a statement. It's not a when. War will not touch American soil. We have geographic advantages and lots of money to keep it from happening. And no, it's not that I want war but I'd MUCH rather a war happen a way from me if it has to happen. Again tho, I'd really prefer war not happen at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 We need ISIS destroyed ASAP, no more waiting or doing nothing aka what Obama would do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florian 20,017 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, kyanewest said: We need ISIS destroyed ASAP, no more waiting or doing nothing aka what Obama would do L O L ... I'd love to live in your world made of easy things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocaine Heart 4,768 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 hour ago, SychosSoChic said: @Cocaine Heart Til It Happens To You When America finally has to fight a war on their own land, and foreign nations drop bombs on them to keep undesirable elements down, we'll see how opinions change. But until then, forget about who destabilized the area in the first place, it's not relevant War is always good unless it's on your land affecting your people Yep. War started by them, started the problem to begin with but more of it should do wonders We going to boo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SychosSoChic 9,995 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Cocaine Heart said: War is always good unless it's on your land affecting your people Yep. War started by them, started the problem to begin with but more of it should do wonders Permission to proceed in Afri-fuqing-kaans? Coz if I say it in English I'm gonna hurt somebody's privileged feelings Life ain't Hollywood for any one of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocaine Heart 4,768 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, SychosSoChic said: Permission to proceed in Afri-fuqing-kaans? Coz if I say it in English I'm gonna hurt somebody's privileged feelings No problem We going to boo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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