Gagamel 3,410 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 56 minutes ago, Modern Ecstacy said: Do they have a different constitution/government? Is what they're doing legal? I don't really know, but I'm sure they do, just like each US state has different laws and all. They have like 2 governments or something, one is not recognized yet still operates for years. They are the definition of mess, together with North Korea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in limbo 6,035 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 This is disgusting and terrifying. Are we "rational"? It's horrible that some people of 2017 haven't learn from the mistakes of the ones from 1930. this is the state of grace, this is the worthwhile fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CautiousLurker 19,947 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I'm not sure why so many people are surprised. Chechnya is predominantly muslim - countries with majority-muslim population have a vast record of imprisoning, torturing and executing gays. I guess people just got used to that bs coming from countries like Iran. To those who wonder why they're doing it - religion. It's a joke! When you give me that look, it's a joke! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster34 974 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 21 hours ago, Born To Slay said: Are they friends with Russia or China? If not, let's get with NATO and liberate the camps! Chechnya is (a subject of) Russia like the state of Georgia is to US. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster34 974 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 15 hours ago, SKANK said: No. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Chechnya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus_Emirate The leader of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, is a radical Islamic fundamentalist. Hatred for homosexuals is taught, in this instance it is taught by Islam. Ramazan Kadyrov is first and foremost the most loyal to Putin, not to any god Guy hangs out with Mike Tyson, has his own Apprentice like TV show; this argument would only work for a country like Saudi Arabia, he is obviously not a uber pious religion lover, he is a hand, not a brain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster34 974 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Modern Ecstacy said: Do they have a different constitution/government? Is what they're doing legal? Russia and Turkey are uniquely similar to each other in the way they are both militaristic eurasian nations where nationalistic emotions are more important than laws. Area had lots of insurgencies in the past but current leader Kadyrov is very loyal to Putin, so as long as area stays loyal to Moscow, there is no legal or illegal. Militaristic countries do not quite work like diplomatic nations of western europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Monster34 said: Ramazan Kadyrov is first and foremost the most loyal to Putin, not to any god Guy hangs out with Mike Tyson, has his own Apprentice like TV show; this argument would only work for a country like Saudi Arabia, he is obviously not a uber pious religion lover, he is a hand, not a brain. This, he's Putin's puppet and a dictator. also what many seem to skip Homosexuality was first illegalized in Chechnya when Russia conquered it in the late 1800s. After the Red Revolution, all of Russia legalized homosexuality again, but it was re-illegalized under Joseph Stalinfor the whole Soviet Union. In 1991, when Dzhokhar Dudayev declared Chechnya to be independent, Russian law was discarded, and a secular government was established, making homosexuality de facto legal. This law was kept under Aslan Maskhadov. Why does anyone think Putin would care? He probably approves. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Ecstacy 3,890 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Gagamel said: I don't really know, but I'm sure they do, just like each US state has different laws and all. They have like 2 governments or something, one is not recognized yet still operates for years. They are the definition of mess, together with North Korea That's frightening. Can't believe its happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Ecstacy 3,890 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Monster34 said: Russia and Turkey are uniquely similar to each other in the way they are both militaristic eurasian nations where nationalistic emotions are more important than laws. Area had lots of insurgencies in the past but current leader Kadyrov is very loyal to Putin, so as long as area stays loyal to Moscow, there is no legal or illegal. Militaristic countries do not quite work like diplomatic nations of western europe. Yeah I read about the place...everything seemed so messy about it. I might have a flight layover in Russia this summer and I'm kinda nervous now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 9 hours ago, Monster34 said: Ramazan Kadyrov is first and foremost the most loyal to Putin, not to any god Guy hangs out with Mike Tyson, has his own Apprentice like TV show; this argument would only work for a country like Saudi Arabia, he is obviously not a uber pious religion lover, he is a hand, not a brain. That is why I wrote "political scapegoating + Islamic extremism" in my original post. I'm not under the impression this is entirely religiously motivated. However, if you support honor killings and the murder of anyone who insults the prophet Muhammad, as Kadyrov does, it's certainly fair to say you are a Islamic fundamentalist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink sushi 4,351 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Still so much homophobia in this world..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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