Troy Carter talks Lady Gaga

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Also, Bobby worked with Troy and Gaga in the background between 2010-2013 as the chief marketing officer at Atom Factoy, Troy's agency (Acording to LinkedIn). With that mind you can gaurentee Bobby played a role in Gaga's early success as her marketing manager. Success doesn't happen with just one person and their ideas, be it Troy or Gaga, it takes a team of people and brains and ideas and ol' bob has been in that fold since the beginning. 

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5 minutes ago, Jenniferella said:

The thing is that she hasn't brought anything new to the table since BTW, I hope she knows that. ARTPOP was surfing on a dead trend while the whole album promotion was at its dullest form and Joanne is...well, it's Joanne. I personally believe she will never be happy because her concept of success is so difficult to reach that she probably never will have it (=she want praise but she absolutely wants to be seen as "the different girl", while making generic music). She used to be interesting through her performances, artistry and vision, now she's relying on her voice only, which is boring as ****. 

The thing is nobody here knows how it is to work with her so nobody is able to confirm whatever feeling they have towards her managers. It infuriates me to see so many members bashing Troy for whatever supposed reason while HE is one of the few people that made her a superstar in like what...a year ? Yes, he was working for his money but I'm pretty sure Bobby is doing the exact same thing. 

 

ARTPOP turned into something wrong, I can't really judge what happened there because it was a lot of things happening at same time. The split with Troy was part of it, so....

I agree with u in many parts, but it's just hard: "She used to be interesting through her performances, artistry and vision, now she's relying on her voice only, which is boring as ****. "

This is a point. The general public for example, got bored of her stuff. They were tired of Lady Gaga wearing meat and bleeding on stage and bringing all the "dark things"... it was a trend, that passed away. The whole "Voice" thing (That I won't lie, I think it's boring and not everything has to be about VOICE)... She turned into the biggest popstar in the planet in 2009 without being a "VOCALIST". It was all about her atittude+Music style+Fashion... it was a "combo". Right now I agree that it's mainly...and only... "VOCAL". But if u look around now, that what the General Public likes. They love Adele and her powerful voice + lyrics. They love the country singers that rely on voice + guitar only... u see? 

It's like u said before, she's trying to be praised now. She's trying something different from her past and even if u check, from what's happening right now. It's not like she tried to create a new musical genre of anything, but it's different from what's on the radio right now, etc.

I won't bash Troy Carter because he's also "HUMAN" and when people call gaga HUMAN they should think about him too. People do mistakes, he didn't hear what she was trying to say with the hip, etc.... it was a mistake, but everyone fails. If we check around the past, she always greeted him as a friend, always felt grateful... I just won't judge him and that's it. But at same time, I just don't want him to come back now and "SAVE HER FROM THE DEEP" because that's not the reality happening and she can do it with Bobby or whoever is with her. She's Lady Gaga, it's a NAME in the industry... all depends on her

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22 minutes ago, giskardsb said:

Gaga was on the same road as Amy.  Overworked, unhappy, and doing things she didn't want. Some of you seem like you'd be ok with Gaga having the same end as long as a few more hits were delivered. 

And Gaga "lost" her stardom because she was overworked and literally everywhere. People were sick of it; her outfits, her "need for attention", her videos, even the music itself during the BTW era. Not because Troy Carter left. LOL

Learn your history if you love him that much, flops.  

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Um no... Troy is an asshole and deserves to be left behind.

If you want to put someone's physical/mental/emotional health behind Fame and success when it is already putting a toll on said person, you shouldn't really be  a fan of that person.

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10 minutes ago, Jenniferella said:

The thing is that she hasn't brought anything new to the table since BTW, I hope she knows that. ARTPOP was surfing on a dead trend while the whole album promotion was at its dullest form and Joanne is...well, it's Joanne. I personally believe she will never be happy because her concept of success is so difficult to reach that she probably never will have it (=she want praise but she absolutely wants to be seen as "the different girl", while making generic music). She used to be interesting through her performances, artistry and vision, now she's relying on her voice only, which is boring as ****. 

The thing is nobody here knows how it is to work with her so nobody is able to confirm whatever feeling they have towards her managers. It infuriates me to see so many members bashing Troy for whatever supposed reason while HE is one of the few people that made her a superstar in like what...a year ? Yes, he was working for his money but I'm pretty sure Bobby is doing the exact same thing. 

ARPOP was surfing on a dead trend partially because Gaga didn't get any space to develop her album.

- Gaga majorly crashed on the BTWB and had to write her album DURING her physical AND mental revalidation

-  She had to write most of the songs based on premade tracks that producers had sent her because she didnt get the chance to take her time behind a piano

- She was forced to perform at the VMAs when her hip hadn't even properly healed yet

- She was left b Troye right when the album was about to be launched, which sent most of the promo down the drain, as illustrated by the ARTPOP app 

Gaga also pointed out that she wasn't allowed the time to properly prepare and create the music video's that she wanted. Didn't she only have a week or so to plan out the entire Applause video?

And of course, most of this info came from Gaga herself, so we can't confirm how much of this is either true, untrue, or exaggerated. But it's definitely clear that Gaga was forced to start the ARTPOP era before she was either physically or mentally ready for it - as caused by her managment. It's also clear that a lot of the promises and projects that had been announced couldn't be brought to fruition because Troye had left her at such a crucial time. 

The details on this case might be a bit cloudy, but it's quite easy to see that Troye forced her into a situation that she didn't want to be in (yet), and then bailed on her at the worst possible time as soon as he found a better deal.

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33 minutes ago, MetalliGa said:

Did he organize for the Super Bowl performance? I don't think so 

He didn't but under his management she was the biggest female singer in the World with many hits and that's why they choose her. I'm sorry but the SB staff don't book artist that don't have hits and that's the truth so if Gaga didn't have hits they would not let her perform at the SB . 

+ what did Gaga sing during the SB?

1. Poker Face 

2. Born This Way

3. Telephone 

4. Just Dance

5. Bad Romance 

They all under Troy management while she only sang MR cause it was the single during that time.

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, M I M I Z said:

 

What an excellent manager he was 

+ He knows exactly what he's doing unlike others  

Thank u Troy for all the things u did for Gaga 

Thank you Troy for almost destroying Gaga's health 

And thank you for treating her like a money machine.  What a great manager! 

Spoiler

Also thank you for leaving Gaga when she was "useless" and "over" 

 

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13 minutes ago, junolxf said:

And Gaga "lost" her stardom because she was overworked and literally everywhere. People were sick of it; her outfits, her "need for attention", her music videos, etc etc during the BTW era. Not because Troy Carter left. LOL

Learn your history if you love him that much, flops.  

You're right: the path she chose creatively doesn't have to do with Troye. But Troye was the main contributer to her working conditions and schedule. It was his job to keep her happy and healthy so that the "Lady Gaga brand" could keep on thriving, and so that she has the space and state of mind to create great work. That's where he failed in the long run.

How much this influenced the BTW era and the quality of her work there is unknown. But it's definitely visible in the ARTPOP era.

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2 minutes ago, M I M I Z said:

 

He didn't but under his management she was the biggest female singer in the World with many hits and that's why they choose her. I'm sorry but the SB staff don't book artist that don't have hits and that's the truth so if Gaga didn't have hits they would not let her perform at the SB . 

+ what did Gaga sing during the SB?

1. Poker Face 

2. Born This Way

3. Telephone 

4. Just Dance

5. Bad Romance 

They all under Troy management while she only sang MR cause it was the single during that time.

 

 

 

 

I honestly get what you're trying to say but here's the thing:

"Troye put success and money over her health".

That automatically disqualifies him from literally any accoldes her deserved. If Gaga continued under his management, there's a semi-decent chance she'd be dead, in an asylum or hospital, or in some way unable to work.

Troye may have helped her get her start, however, that doesn't matter if Gaga is unable to continue doing what she loves for the rest of her life.

I mean, would you like Troye if Gaga was permanently made ill9which she is with PTSD) under his work schedule?

Plus we all have to admit Gaga will never be a big as she used to be. Personal success is what matters to her, not any of this stuff.

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5 minutes ago, M I M I Z said:

+ what did Gaga sing during the SB?

1. Poker Face 

2. Born This Way

3. Telephone 

4. Just Dance

5. Bad Romance 

They all under Troy management while she only sang MR cause it was the single during that time.

What does Troye have to do with the fact that Gaga chose to sing those songs?

Besides, the Joanne era is the only one where Bobby really got to do his job. Most of the ARTPOP era was spent cleaning up and recovering from the mess that Troye left behind. And let's not forget all the amazing projects Gaga and Bobby achieved between ARTPOP and Joanne. Cheek To Cheek (+ Grammy award), the Sound Of Music tribute, TIHTY (+ Oscar nom) and more. Without those projects that the amazing acclaim she achieved, Gaga probably wouldn't have been in a position to perform at the Superbowl at all.

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15 minutes ago, M I M I Z said:

 

He didn't but under his management she was the biggest female singer in the World with many hits and that's why they choose her. I'm sorry but the SB staff don't book artist that don't have hits and that's the truth so if Gaga didn't have hits they would not let her perform at the SB . 

+ what did Gaga sing during the SB?

1. Poker Face 

2. Born This Way

3. Telephone 

4. Just Dance

5. Bad Romance 

They all under Troy management while she only sang MR cause it was the single during that time.

Troy isn't her creative director. BoomKack is  Slay Queen of Pop, really!

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13 minutes ago, junolxf said:

And Gaga "lost" her stardom because she was overworked and literally everywhere. People were sick of it; her outfits, her "need for attention", her music videos, etc etc during the BTW era. Not because Troy Carter left. LOL

Learn your history if you love him that much, flops.  

Yea opinion without a doubt changed during 2011, a mixture of being over exposed and the madonna comparisons reaching its pinnical when she released BTW. People used to think the BTW era was a total mess and then AP came along and showed what really meant. I always feel bad for AP, like it was doomed from the get go, the GP were ready to see her fail by 2013 so for that opinion to change she would of had to deliver a ****ing miracle.  

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Why the **** are y'all still posting about that scumbag on this site? **** that jackass, piece of **** for overworking her and bringing so much emotional distress to her. We need to stop giving this ****ing sad, pathetic, waste of space any attention. Stop speaking his damn name. 

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Troy was good for the start up, but was terrible in maintaining an artist and keeping them healthy. (mentally and physically) He pushed too much, made bad deals and decisions, overexposed and overworked his artist...to the point of potentially career ending results. He wasn't there to help build his artist up when he wore her out, to the point of complete exhaustion menatally and physically. 

We are fortunate that Bobby is now her manager, someone who cares for Gaga as a human being...not just a product. He respects her as an artist and as a person, wants her to take time to explore her many talents and is looking at the big picture. I much prefer Bobby! 

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2 minutes ago, WohnJayne said:

Yea opinion without a doubt changed during 2011, a mixture of being over exposed and the madonna comparisons reaching its pinnical when she released BTW. People used to think the BTW era was a total mess and then AP came along and showed what really meant. I always feel bad for AP, like it was doomed from the get go, the GP were ready to see her fail by 2013 so for that opinion to change she would of had to deliver a ****ing miracle.  

Yes. And Troy Carter was her manager during that time, which makes this thread really, really funny to me. skfffl