New single right after Coachella?

[RadioIsOurs 13,876]

29 minutes ago, IAmDavid said:

If you read my posts though,you'd see that I did talk about the fan favourite tracks like "DIC" "Ayo" "John Wayne"... They are dated and they sound like her 2011 tracks with more simple melodies and a different country inspired production. This is something that they fans like because it reminds them of the old Gaga but it's not good enough for the radio

They might be fan favourites, but that's not my reason either. I don't think A-YO has as much single potential as people here like to say as it doesn't sound trendy. But it's still a basic bop that everyone can enjoy, so it's third or fourth on my list. John Wayne has the elements of a modern EDM pop song, but it's too noisy for radio today and too short for successful sales since that makes it unattractive.

Nowadays people prefer a more 'chill' sound, and I think DIC can offer that. We really have to see what types of songs are popular on the charts rn. I don't want to sound like a broken recorder but here I go again: First and foremost, it follows the basic modern EDM structure of a build up and drop, so that's a plus. It has an exotic tropical reggae sound that is really hot right now among youths. It's definitely catchy to some degree. And the drop isn't too overbearing or over the top, instead opting for a more sensual and 'chill' vibe. 

I don't think any of my points are inaccurate, so it should be good enough reasons why can be a single. It all comes down to the GP's tastes when talking about single releases, so I don't really care if you feel it sounds like her 2011 tracks or is more 'basic'.  

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4 minutes ago, RainbowBlonde said:

They might be fan favourites, but that's not my reason either. I don't think A-YO has as much single potential as people here like to say as it doesn't sound trendy. But it's still a basic bop that everyone can enjoy, so it's third or fourth on my list. John Wayne has the elements of a modern EDM pop song, but it's too noisy for radio today and too short for successful sales since that makes it unattractive.

Nowadays people prefer a more 'chill' sound, and I think DIC can offer that. We really have to see what types of songs are popular on the charts rn. I don't want to sound like a broken recorder but here I go again: First and foremost, it follows the basic modern EDM structure of a build up and drop, so that's a plus. It has an exotic tropical reggae sound that is really hot right now among youths. It's definitely catchy to some degree. And the drop isn't too overbearing or over the top, instead opting for a more sensual and 'chill' vibe. 

I don't think any of my points are inaccurate, so it should be good enough reasons why it's qualified to be a single. It all comes down to the GP's tastes when talking about single releases, so I don't really care if you feel it sounds like her 2011 tracks or is more 'basic'.  

I generally agree about Ayo and John Wayne.

Dancin' In Circles does have a reggae sound but I don't think that the song sounds anything like the "tropical reggae EDM" sound that is popular  The lyrics are also quite annoying tbh. I don't think it could ever work. 

 The GP doesn't like tryhards. Gaga was clearly being a tryhard with those songs to stay cool and interesting for her fanbase that likes pop songs. But these songs are not in any way well written,good enough for anything more than the fanbase.

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5 minutes ago, IAmDavid said:

I generally agree about Ayo and John Wayne.

Dancin' In Circles does have a reggae sound but I don't think that the song sounds anything like the "tropical reggae EDM" sound that is popular  The lyrics are also quite annoying tbh. I don't think it could ever work. 

 The GP doesn't like tryhards. Gaga was clearly being a tryhard with those songs to stay cool and interesting for her fanbase that likes pop songs. But these songs are not in any way well written,good enough for anything more than the fanbase.

If anything, MR sounds equally tryhard imo. People who have only heard her older pop songs would think that she's aiming for the acoustic adult contemporary market that is popular rn too. But no, I don't think she's being a tryhard. In fact, that might be more insulting to her work than any other criticism out there. 

I don't know about you, but I think it do sounds along the lines of hits like Sorry and Side to Side. I have a feeling you are overestimating the GP's tastes. Are you hearing the hits that are out there? Do you really think they know what quality is? If you really want to prove that it's not single material you have to give more solid points than just what you personally think of the song. 

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20 minutes ago, RainbowBlonde said:

If anything, MR sounds equally tryhard imo. People who have only heard her older pop songs would think that she's aiming for the acoustic adult contemporary market that is popular rn too. But no, I don't think she's being a tryhard. In fact, that might be more insulting to her work than any other criticism out there. 

I don't know about you, but I think it do sounds along the lines of hits like Sorry and Side to Side. I have a feeling you are overestimating the GP's tastes. Are you hearing the hits that are out there? Do you really think they know what quality is? If you really want to prove that it's not single material you have to give more solid points than just what you personally think of the song. 

The thing is that Million Reasons does sound like a complete song that has good songwriting and a specific sound..Gaga might tried to make a hit in the AC market with it but the song itself is good enough to do it.

Ayo,DIC,DH etc. are simply not good enough because they are a weak combination of her old sound with her new vibe.It almost feels like she took left-overs from TFM and BTW and she re-produced them in order to not sound completely off in the album. I don't care if you think I am "insulting" her,I am stating my opinion and I am explaining it as well so I am not "hating" or "insulting" her ,I am simply expressing my negative opinion towards those songs.

I am not overestimating GP's tastes in anyway.I find 90% of the mainstream music to be horrible ,I just think that I know what the general public wants. I don't see how Sorry and Side To Side have ANYTHING in common sound-wize with DIC  I'd say they sound fresh,made exactly for the 2017 radio to play them when DIC sounds like a catchy song but really dated,vocally underproduced and irrelevant to what is played right now. I have given you like 10 different explanations til now that are all quite subjective because when you are talking about music you can never be 100% objective. You are the one that doesn't actually explain anything tbh. You only say that you find the song to be radio friendly and that the song sounds like a 2017 hit.

Imo DIC is like Alejandro's little sister (which sounds like a good thing) but with A LOT weaker lyrics,a weaker hook and even a more dated production (despite the first being released in 2009-10). The vocals in the song are so RAW that are enough to keep the song from becoming a hit (Just like PI that is a weaker song than DIC though)

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10 minutes ago, IAmDavid said:

The thing is that Million Reasons does sound like a complete song that has good songwriting and a specific sound..Gaga might tried to make a hit in the AC market with it but the song itself is good enough to do it.

Ayo,DIC,DH etc. are simply not good enough because they are a weak combination of her old sound with her new vibe.It almost feels like she took left-overs from TFM and BTW and she re-produced them in order to not sound completely off in the album. I don't care if you think I am "insulting" her,I am stating my opinion and I am explaining it as well so I am not "hating" or "insulting" her ,I am simply expressing my negative opinion towards those songs.

I am not overestimating GP's tastes in anyway.I find 90% of the mainstream music to be horrible ,I just think that I know what the general public wants. I don't see how Sorry and Side To Side have ANYTHING in common sound-wize with DIC  I'd say they sound fresh,made exactly for the 2017 radio to play them when DIC sounds like a catchy song but really dated and irrelevant to what is played right now. I have given you like 10 different explanations til now that are all quite subjective because when you are talking about music you can never be 100% objective. You are the one that doesn't actually explain anything tbh. You only say that you find the song to be radio friendly.

Imo DIC is like Alejandro's little sister (which sounds like a good thing) but with A LOT weaker lyrics,a weaker hook and even a more dated production (despite the first being released in 2009-10)

How does DIC sound dated? Other than the fact that it sounds like Alejandro, which also has reggae vibes, what part of it sounds dated?  

Also, I do have good reason to believe that they sound in common, many users have also acknowledged this.

Some other mashups with recent hits:

 

[Alphaz 7,956]

She should drop third single 2 months ago

She's as slow as snails and turtles

I guess she's given up in making music videos, and it's frustrating

It used to be a celebration

The Fame has 6 music videos

The Fame Monsters has 3 music videos out of 8 tracks

Born This Way has 5 music videos

ARTPOP has 3, Joanne has 3 and I don't think we're gonna get more out of Joanne

[Fiona Apple 13,006]

1 hour ago, RainbowBlonde said:

How does DIC sound dated? Other than the fact that it sounds like Alejandro, which also has reggae vibes, what part of it sounds dated?  

Also, I do have good reason to believe that they sound in common, many users have also acknowledged this.

Some other mashups with recent hits:

 

Lmao the only things these remixes show is how not like the recent hits DIC sounds  All those remixes sound atrocious

[Gaga Goddess 215]

I think it's long overdue now. I'm so sorry to the MR stans but I'm over it officially.

[RadioIsOurs 13,876]

Just now, IAmDavid said:

Lmao the only things these remixes show is how not like the recent hits DIC sounds  All those remixes sound atrocious

Those are not really remixes? They are mashups to prove how similar they sound in terms of rhythm and structure. I'm sorry but your opinion is the minority on this one, and I'm not sure what more you could you ask for other than something that suits your agenda. There's only a certain point when an opinion can become a reach...

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2 minutes ago, RainbowBlonde said:

Those are not really remixes? They are mashups to prove how similar they sound in terms of rhythm and structure. I'm sorry but your opinion is the minority on this one, and I'm not sure what more you could you ask for other than something that suits your agenda. There's only a certain point when an opinion can become a reach...

Loool gurl.Those songs in the "mashups" don't even share the same chords and they sound absolutely off key. Gaga's vocals sound ABSOLUTELY off with those edm&modern beats.I don't know what you tried to prove with those mashups.Especially the "The Greatest" one is really painful to listen to

[RadioIsOurs 13,876]

Just now, IAmDavid said:

Loool gurl.Those songs in the "mashups" don't even share the same chords and they sound absolutely off key. Gaga's vocals sound ABSOLUTELY off with those edm&modern rhythms.I don't know what you tried to prove with those mashups.Especially the "The Greatest" one is really painful to listen to

They are ****ing mashups, why would you expect everything to fit? I'm not trying to show how Gaga's voice fits, or how they have the same chords, and if you think so then you're missing the point, because that has never been the point of our discussion. Plus you haven't explained to me how DIC sounds outdated. All you did was mask what little facts you have with condescending language and 'subjective' opinions to make you seem you know something. That's the thing, whenever I have a discussion with people like you, I try my hardest to actually gather facts to support my opinion, but you don't even try. It's honestly frustrating. 

[Fiona Apple 13,006]

33 minutes ago, RainbowBlonde said:

They are ****ing mashups, why would you expect everything to fit? I'm not trying to show how Gaga's voice fits, or how they have the same chords, and if you think so then you're missing the point, because that has never been the point of our discussion. Plus you haven't explained to me how DIC sounds outdated. All you did was mask what little facts you have with condescending language and 'subjective' opinions to make you seem you know something. That's the thing, whenever I have a discussion with people like you, I try my hardest to actually gather facts to support my opinion, but you don't even try. It's honestly frustrating. 

1)If the songs didn't fit together what the **** was the point of posting them here to prove something? These songs had nothing in common other than having the same bpm that is pretty much the same for almost all popsongs  

2)I believe that the production of the song lacks the modern&electronic sound that is popular now.It's just a weak reggae beat. Also the raw vocals haven't been popular in decades or something.That makes the song outdated. Also the lyrics are strongly sexual without being sexy that is something that the GP won't like either

3)You literally gave 0 ****ing facts. You have been even more subjective than I am because at least I explain why I believe what I believe and you don't even do that.So pretty much the opposite of what you said happened. You tried once to prove what you said with those mash ups that actually proved exactly the opposite of what you wanted to prove.

4)"People like you" I do not belong in a group of people that do something specific. I told you my opinion. We won't know who is right til the song becomes a single.But I am pretty sure that I had many more valid points than you.

I respect your opinion and I understand what you believe (even though you didn't really support it strongly). I just absolutely disagree.

[RadioIsOurs 13,876]

1 minute ago, IAmDavid said:

1)If the songs didn't fit together what the **** was the point of posting them here to prove something? These songs had nothing in common other than having the same bpm that is pretty much the same for almost all popsongs  

2)I believe that the production of the song lacks the modern&electronic sound that is popular now.It's just a weak reggae beat. Also the raw vocals haven't been popular in decades or something.That makes the song outdated.

3)You literally gave 0 ****ing facts. You have been even more subjective than I am because at least I explain why I believe what I believe and you don't even do that.So pretty much the opposite of what you said happened. You tried once to prove what you said with those mash ups that actually proved exactly the opposite of what you wanted to prove.

4)"People like you" I do not belong in a group of people that do something specific. I told you my opinion. We won't know who is right til the song becomes a single.But I am pretty sure that I had many more valid points than you.

I respect your opinion and I understand what you believe (even though you didn't really support it strongly). I just absolutely disagree.

1) Because the beat did sound similar! Not the vocals, not the chords. Someone did share one of those mashups on this site and the majority acknowledged that they do sound alike. 

2) I'm intrigued. How would you characterise the modern & electronic sound apart from the song's beat? What examples would you consider? Also what do you mean by raw vocals?

3) Well I did try to explain how I think DIC sounded like a few recent hits, and all you did was 'lmao they don't sound similar.' Am I supposed to just take your word for it? 

4) People that had similar opinions to you. Or maybe I have just been arguing with the same guy on this issue the whole time...

[blackcoffee 1,264]

I don't know about single, but I think it would be pretty awesome for Florence (who's performed at Coachella a handful of times; she's a festival staple) to come out and perform Hey Girl during Gaga's set. Then, right after the performance, a video of the song is released on her VEVO, for all the people to see after they search for the song after their collaborative performance. 

Gaga said she wanted to be unconventional with the album and release of videos and has already released a video for a non-single, so why not have one available for Hey Girl after people search with interest after festival-babe Florence performs with Gaga. 

Who knows, maybe the GP would pick on the song and it becomes a single...I know many here would disagree, but I think the chill vibes of the song could TOTALLY catch on and the classic, 70s/80s synths of the song could totally work (people love throwback; songs liked Get Lucky and Love on the Brain are testaments to that) right on Pop and AC radio

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26 minutes ago, blackcoffee said:

I don't know about single, but I think it would be pretty awesome for Florence (who's performed at Coachella a handful of times; she's a festival staple) to come out and perform Hey Girl during Gaga's set. Then, right after the performance, a video of the song is released on her VEVO, for all the people to see after they search for the song after their collaborative performance. 

Gaga said she wanted to be unconventional with the album and release of videos and has already released a video for a non-single, so why not have one available for Hey Girl after people search with interest after festival-babe Florence performs with Gaga. 

Who knows, maybe the GP would pick on the song and it becomes a single...I know many here would disagree, but I think the chill vibes of the song could TOTALLY catch on and the classic, 70s/80s synths of the song could totally work (people love throwback; songs liked Get Lucky and Love on the Brain are testaments to that) right on Pop and AC radio

Here for their performance but not for making it a single