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What is wrong with mainstream music? 2016/2017


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2ndTimeAround

For me, 2016 and 2017 so far has been a TERRIBLE year for music, I just cant comprehend how $hitty i think it is that music has turned into a 'lets follow suit, have generic tropical instrumentals and make a #1 hit'

And whats worse is people eat that shyt up for breakfast, lunch and dinner, whilst real artists, that have amazing lyrics, production and vocals, get left in the dust and don't get the recognition they deserve.

And one of the biggest sell outs for me is that all these #1's are all features, or revamps of artists original songs.

Music at the moment is so unauthentic and lacks so much meaning and depth & so many artists are repeating what their previous albums are full with (ed sheeran, adele, katy perry etc)

 

So thank you to the likes of Lady Gaga, Lana Del Ray, Lorde, Beyonce & Rihanna for always pushing their boundaries and not conforming to the mould the instrustry! They may not get the #1's but the sure as hell deserve them

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Pacify Him

If you were to just listen to other genres besides pop, this thread wouldn't have been made :reductive:

I’m getting on your nerves
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Benji

There isn't anything "wrong" with current mainstream music and this isn't a new thing. There's a reason why "Greatest songs of the 80s" etc only have like 50 songs on; a lot of it sounded the same. I personally don't have a problem with pop music trends, especially when it's one that I like such as tropical house.

If you're not feeling what's popular, seek out music you do like, which it seems like you have anyway.

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AlexanderLevi2

You act surprised :toofunny:

This is the same common critique everyone has used against mainstream music since the beginning of time.

Let's move on.

Currently listening to Joanne
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OMonster

I think what is wrong with music (and probably our whole generation, too) is the culture of the popular and how both fans and artists alike will do anything to conform to it. It's all about appearing as 'popular' and 'cool'. The GP like to feel 'cool' by listening to certain music (particularly house at the moment, I'd say) and so-called artists (or puppets) like to feel relevant and popular by churning it out. The record labels of course lap it up, and no doubt even force it upon artists, because relevance = dollar. 

So I guess, in summary, the obvious issue (which I'm defining as a lack of originality and authenticity mostly) with mainstream music is our generation's desire to paint a certain image of themselves - a perfect illusion - and how capitalism cashes in on that in the form of exploitative record labels having a monopoly on the music scene. But when is capitalism not to blame?

:reductive:

subtext / fantasy
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2ndTimeAround

I see where you guys are coming from, i guess for me it feels kinda f*cked up when you have all these random up and coming artists popping up, and not necessarily dominating the charts, but what they're putting out, isnt new or fresh or exciting, and then you have xyz ft. zxy & abc and suddenly its in the top 10

& then they will disappear ofc cause only legends have longetivity

but it does feel so basic @tizian, so so basic that it gets so hard to digest.

Even to the point where I did like ed sheeran, but hes getting to the point where its like ive heard this shyt before on multiply...

 

At least with Lady Gaga, her 5 albums are vastly different every single one can take you on its own journey.

 

Like i will listen to something from Joanne, and then ill listen to something from The Fame and I am completely mind fcuked at how this is the same artist! 

 

 

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Killa
1 minute ago, AlphaMonster said:

Today's mainstream music is so much better than 2000s. :madge:

repent, NOW

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AlphaMonster
6 minutes ago, Killa said:

repent, NOW

No :gaycat:

What you call tropical pop is americanization of what has been tastemakers' beach\soft club music for ages around Mediterranean Coast before Americans decided giving it a shot. 

Example: 

AND its current americanized version is still so much better than 2000s mainstream music. Poker Face is one of my least favorite Gaga singles.

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Harry
15 minutes ago, Benji said:

There isn't anything "wrong" with current mainstream music and this isn't a new thing. There's a reason why "Greatest songs of the 80s" etc only have like 50 songs on; a lot of it sounded the same. I personally don't have a problem with pop music trends, especially when it's one that I like such as tropical house.

If you're not feeling what's popular, seek out music you do like, which it seems like you have anyway.

 

14 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said:

You act surprised :toofunny:

This is the same common critique everyone has used against mainstream music since the beginning of time.

Let's move on.

These.

Nostalgia is powerful. We only properly remember the classics and music we love and we'll look back on this decade and pull out the stuff we love as well. Every single year people say "it's such a bad year for mainstream music". People said it all the time about 2011 and now I see many people on here looking back on that as some kind of golden-age of pop music. It's the same and it will always be the same.

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2ndTimeAround
3 minutes ago, OMonster said:

I think what is wrong with music (and probably our whole generation, too) is the culture of the popular and how both fans and artists alike will do anything to conform to it. It's all about appearing as 'popular' and 'cool'. The GP like to feel 'cool' by listening to certain music (particularly house at the moment, I'd say) and so-called artists (or puppets) like to feel relevant and popular by churning it out. The record labels of course lap it up, and no doubt even force it upon artists, because relevance = dollar. 

So I guess, in summary, the obvious issue (which I'm defining as a lack of originality and authenticity mostly) with mainstream music is our generation's desire to paint a certain image of themselves - a perfect illusion - and how capitalism cashes in on that in the form of exploitative record labels having a monopoly on the music scene. But when is capitalism not to blame?

:reductive:

Bang on sis! exactly what i wanted to say! & all of these #1's are selling you this idealistic imagery of what life should be like

i.e- chainsmokers closer lyric video (cue go pro videos of teenagers jumping off waterfalls, having the time of their lives, getting lost in their own world of self absorbed self worth) and suddenly, that song is so amazing because they are showcasing you that the song will make you have the time of your life.

We are a society where we need our lives to be validated all the time, and this is one of the way it happens. 

So all originality and authenticity in the music industry is lost. 

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Oscar

This has been a topic of conversation since I was a kid and its true. For a lot of people here tho we seem to remember gaga peak (2008-2011) as golden years in music and it was true. For a little bit, music went from shifty to okay. 

But it was shitty back before that era and shitty now (and i agree it seems as if 2016 and 2017 are just extreme lows) 

The reason for this **** is obviously greed and money (has to be basic and relatable) 

The fact that there are only a few producers out there responsible for most artists songs also makes it all sound the same. 

A good way to find good music is to listen to the classics but sometimes that **** just feels out of date. 

I just wish there were creative and original new artists out there with interesting and refreshing concepts. 

Even gaga could be improved imo. In glad her music isn't basic but she could still do better than joanne 

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Killa
2 minutes ago, AlphaMonster said:

No :gaycat:

What you call tropical pop is americanization of what has been tastemakers' beach\soft club music for ages around Mediterranean Coast before Americans decided giving it a shot. 

Example: 

 

I think this reply is a bit of a leap of logic (faith). It really doesn't seem like the correlation is completely there. It seemed that Electronic music was mainstream and got on pop landscape, then 90´s were ressurrected for a short time and deep house evaded the formula of climax drop  while pop music was a bit lost. Meanwhile indie records has captured the chill vibe that modern western world seeks for.  Mainstream music then has evolved into using this elements to its uses. But since Biebs is the main artist to make the establish the genre, we should  dissecate the background of those producers, to they're influences, how they got there

also that ter, tropical pop is something else. I might be a bit lost but i think you're confusing things

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