Le Pen refuses to wear headscarf, cancels meeting with Lebanon grand mufti

[HEARTHUNTER 7,611]

Deleted because I don't want to lose my energy on that

[The Fame Joanne 5,985]

6 minutes ago, lego said:

 

I'm so glad a fascist woman pleased you with one gesture, she's playing you all so well.  

 

Nobody here likes this disgusting woman. Stop accusing people of that sh*t! Just bc you chose to ignore the fact that fundamental muslims do oppress women doesn't mean everyone else has to. And even if it was a stunt, it was still right, that she didn't want to wear a headscarf. And yes, some people might like her more bc of this stunt, but WE DO NOT!

[lego 44,165]

1 minute ago, The Fame Joanne said:

Nobody here likes this disgusting woman. Stop accusing people of that sh*t! Just bc you chose to ignore the fact that fundamental muslims do oppress women doesn't mean everyone else has to. And even if it was a stunt, it was still right, that she didn't want to wear a headscarf. And yes, some people might like her more bc of this stunt, but WE DO NOT!

 

Maybe you need to calm down now? The yelling doesn't help. Maybe you don't realize you are praising the woman you ''hate''? If her intentions were not sincere, what is there to praise her for? She didn't stand up for anyone. Also you don't seem to know anything about Lebanon.

I heard Hitler was vegetarian and he loved animals, but he doesn't deserve any praise for that nor does anyone OF THAT FASCIST IDEOLOGY.

 

[SKANK 14,288]

11 minutes ago, lego said:

 

That is not the point, she succeeded and all I see now is siding with her "I'm with Le Pen", praising her as some sort of feminist, just look at that ridiculous WaPo headline

and many others on the link above 

 

in fact, let me quote 

"It was almost going to pass without the media splash that Marine Le Pen wanted her Lebanese visit to generate, but she finally got her wish towards the end of her visit to the only country so far whose officials have agreed to receive the far-right presidential candidate.

From her first-ever handshake with a head of state, to the visit making fake news website Breitbart headlines with it being to see Lebanon’s persecuted Christians, the biggest splash is how Marine Le Pen refused to wear a headscarf to meet Lebanon’s Sunni Grand Mufti Abdel-Latif Daryan.

It was only a matter of time that the Vice President of Le Pen’s party tweeted the following:

His tweet, attached to a screenshot of a Le Figaro headline saying “Marine Le Pen refuses to wear the veil,” translates to: “In Lebanon, Marine refuses to wear the veil. A wonderful message of liberty and emancipation sent to the women of France and the world.”

Of course, this whole affair is anything but a “wonderful message of liberty emancipation sent to the women of France and the world.”

As she arrived to meet the Mufti, Marine Le Pen was faced by a man – as pictured above – holding out a veil for her to cover her head. She feigned surprise before refusing to wear it with the argument being that she had met the Mufti of Al-Azhar previously and didn’t face such requirements, in reference to a 2015 visit.

Her argument, however, is worthless. Marine Le Pen was informed yesterday that the Mufti would only meet her if she covered her head with a scarf, but she still showed up anyway with the only purpose to be as controversial as she possible.

It was nothing but a publicity stunt, and it worked. These are the current top news google results about Marine Le Pen:

People like Marine Le Pen and Donald Trump know that the best way to get attention is to be as controversial, loud, and offensive as possible. In a world of post truth and alternative facts, that is the only thing that gets attention and gives them the spotlight they so desperately seek.

By orchestrating a charade of refusing to wear a headscarf even though she had known the day prior that she’d be required to do so, Marine Le Pen acquired the brightest spotlight of her Lebanese trip: one in which those that support her will think – as her VP said – that she’s standing up for women rights, except she’s not.

This is not about the validity of the request to wear the headscarf, per se, as that is another topic and a whole other discussion. I’m personally against forcing anyone to do something against their will, be it Le Pen or headscarf or otherwise. But I also believe that is my duty as a person to be mindful of the situation I am willingly putting myself in. If that situation – in this case being asked to put a scarf on – isn’t something I’d be comfortable in, then I simply would opt out of it.

Women in Lebanon don’t need Marine Le Pen to stand up for them, especially when the only facet of Lebanese women she cares about are those who wear a Cross around their neck or who roll their R’s as she does. Simply put, Lebanese women are not required to cover up. They are not coerced to wear the veil to walk on our streets. They can wear whatever they want as long as they’re comfortable wearing it. They are the most liberated of women in the region. Anything other than this is misinformation."

 

 

 

As I already said, whether or not this moment was orchestrated for political gain, and regardless of her indefensible political and social agenda, Le Pen's stunt made a valid point.

Women should not be held to a different standard of modesty than men.

If you personally consider yourself a feminist and an advocate for progressive social values, you should applaud any act which rejects a culture's gender double standard.

 

 

[The Fame Joanne 5,985]

1 minute ago, lego said:

 

Maybe you need to calm down now? The yelling doesn't help. Maybe you don't realize you are praising the woman you ''hate''? If her intentions were not sincere, what is there to praise her for? She didn't stand up for anyone. Also you don't seem to know anything about Lebanon.

I heard Hitler was vegetarian and he loved animals, but he doesn't deserve any praise for that nor does anyone OF THAT FASCIST IDEOLOGY.

 

You tell me to calm down? Did you read your posts in this thread? 

And I didn't praise her. I just said that I agree with her in this situation. I don't think a vegetarian would say that Hitler made the wrong decision by stop eating meat 

[lego 44,165]

1 minute ago, The Fame Joanne said:

You tell me to calm down? Did you read your posts in this thread? 

 

Yes, I am debating and you are yelling.

 

So you think Hitler should be humanized and praised for one good deed, gotcha. I guess we should write all the articles about him saving the animals and comment ''I'm with Hitler on this one''.

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, SKANK said:

 

As I already said, whether or not this moment was orchestrated for political gain, and regardless of her indefensible political and social agenda, Le Pen's stunt made a valid point.

Women should not be held to a different standard of modesty than men.

If you personally consider yourself a feminist and an advocate for progressive social values, you should applaud any act which rejects a culture's gender double standard.

 

 

 

I don't think you as a man are entitled to tell me what I should or should not do. I do not applaud a Nazi, who planned a publicity stunt, she did nothing for women of Lebanon or women in general.

 

[The Fame Joanne 5,985]

1 minute ago, lego said:

 

Yes, I am debating and you are yelling.

 

So you think Hitler should be humanized and praised for one good deed, gotcha. I guess we should write all the articles about him saving the animals and comment ''I'm with Hitler on this one''.

 

 

Of you wanted a serious debate, you wouldn't just ignore the things I say. At first you ignored that I said that I hate Le Pen, now you didn't quote the part where I said I don't praise her and told me to stop praising her (or Hitler, which I also did not)

I also said that I do not look different at Le Pen now. And 'gotcha' doesn't belong to a serious debate either 

[uo111 5,282]

Frace is ****ed.

ISIS is winning.

Westerners are so stupid.

Please WWIII, put an end to the human race, a blight to mother earth and all her beauty.

[SKANK 14,288]

7 minutes ago, The Fame Joanne said:

Of you wanted a serious debate, you wouldn't just ignore the things I say. At first you ignored that I said that I hate Le Pen, now you didn't quote the part where I said I don't praise her and told me to stop praising her (or Hitler, which I also did not)

I also said that I do not look different at Le Pen now. And 'gotcha' doesn't belong to a serious debate either 

 

Lego rudely delegitmized your opinion by saying you were just being played by a fascist, said they were interested in a serious debate while falling into the cliche of Godwin's Law, scolded you for yelling in the very same post in which they were yelling, then suggested my defense of feminism was sexist.

There is nothing productive to gain from the conversation, so I'm tapping out. God bless you if you want to continue talking to someone so irrational.

[lego 44,165]

Aww I'm so glad you find each other, united. You can now gossip about me like I'm not here or continue via PM.