ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I actually feel like this is an instance of us kind of running with the wind and some context lacking, but I haven't seen "all" of the videos/soundbytes yet, so maybe I just haven't heard the super damning things yet. Like, from what I've seen so far (just one sound clip), he was romanticizing same sex molestation, as well as arguing that consent is too emphasized for adults, which IS ****ed up... That being said, we as a society in general are selectively lax with ephebophilia, and I think he was saying that we should be consistent with that. (So 25 year olds should be able to **** 15 year olds for example) That being said. REALLY CONSERVATIVES? THIS is what gets you upset enough to want you to drop his ass? I'm not talking to individuals, but it is those people that are stereotypically thought of as doing these things, is it not? It's just like when Conservatives only started to even remotely dislike Trump when he insulted that dead soldier and his family, not when he advocated for violence and was racist/sexist, sexually assaulted a woman, mocked a disabled person, or did a slew of other worse things At the end of the day, I don't think "I support pedophilia" is an accurate representation of what Milo's saying, even if what he is saying is still wildly problematic, so they aren't even getting him on his more blatantly ignorant offensive and damaging things 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Goosey said: So you think this thread shouldn't have been created in the first place, because Milo's comments themselves are also alt-right BS? He's a known activist/public figure/neo nazi/trash? This is news, he's going down and I'm sorry if you're his biggest stan. 😐 Random trash comment are from anonymous people on different sites/Trump supporters and we all know by now how they react to almost anything. No one asked you to constantly bring screenshots from reddit. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizzily 14,571 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Keep doing what you do, @Goosey. They can add you to ignore if they don't want to see it. Inside my head I have the best time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muscletank 410 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Ok I watched the video. Very very disappointed, disgusted and saddened with his stance. You cannot defend the indefensible and this sends out a terrible message. Pedophiles are the scum of the earth and for him to defend that priest or whatever he was is so wrong and reprehensible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, DrewStevens said: The age of consent in the majority of European countries is 16 (the lowest is 14) and he used a 13 year old boy as an example. He had it coming and he deserves all this backlash. Willam is a comedian and he doesn't say girls are in danger of being raped by trans women in public bathrooms. He said that his experiences as a fourteen year old with older men were not abusive, and that he in fact was the aggressor in those relationships, which is exactly what Willam Belli has said. He supports age of consent laws, but believes that there are people who are capable of sexual agency who happen to be under that age of consent. He explicitly said that is was wrong to have sex with someone who was prepubescent. He also said that it's natural for men in their twenties to see sexually developed fifteen year old girls and think they are hot - which isn't out of step with most age of consent laws in European countries. Milo has made a litany of remarks which are legitimately outrageous (his claims about Trans individuals for example), but it is these remarks will sink his career. Not because I think they are offensive, but because when it comes to sex the American public is puritanical, ignorant, and reactionary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 34 minutes ago, lego said: He's a known activist/public figure/neo nazi/trash? This is news, he's going down and I'm sorry if you're his biggest stan. 😐 Random trash comment are from anonymous people on different sites/Trump supporters and we all know by now how they react to almost anything. No one asked you to constantly bring screenshots from reddit. This! If I wanted to see what a bunch of Trumpets were saying about their dear orange leader, I would go read it myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, SKANK said: He said that his experiences as a fourteen year old with older men were not abusive, and that he in fact was the aggressor in those relationships, which is exactly what Willam Belli has said. He supports age of consent laws, but believes that there are people who are capable of sexual agency who happen to be under that age of consent. He explicitly said that is was wrong to have sex with someone who was prepubescent. He also said that it's natural for men in their twenties to see sexually developed fifteen year old girls and think they are hot - which isn't out of step with most age of consent laws in European countries. Milo has made a litany of remarks which are legitimately outrageous (his claims about Trans individuals for example), but it is these remarks will sink his career. Not because I think they are offensive, but because when it comes to sex the American public is puritanical, ignorant, and reactionary. I agree that this is probably one of the least scandalous things he has very said but I he deserves to be treated unfairly. He is a troll and a hypocrite, this is just some taste of his own medicine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverViennese 1,164 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, SKANK said: He said that his experiences as a fourteen year old with older men were not abusive, and that he in fact was the aggressor in those relationships, which is exactly what Willam Belli has said. He supports age of consent laws, but believes that there are people who are capable of sexual agency who happen to be under that age of consent. He explicitly said that is was wrong to have sex with someone who was prepubescent. He also said that it's natural for men in their twenties to see sexually developed fifteen year old girls and think they are hot - which isn't out of step with most age of consent laws in European countries. Milo has made a litany of remarks which are legitimately outrageous (his claims about Trans individuals for example), but it is these remarks will sink his career. Not because I think they are offensive, but because when it comes to sex the American public is puritanical, ignorant, and reactionary. May I ask how old you are? https://www.last.fm/user/derOlliM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,235 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Steve Nasty said: Hes trash regardless of this issue so idrc This. I'm actually leaning towards his side on this particular issue, even if the "joke" was in extremely poor taste. Taking that out of the occasion, he's an odious caricature who thrives on negativity, divisiveness and drama. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,888 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 This forum already has a weird fetish with incest, so I don't expect this discussion to go any better. Honestly, what the ****, people. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,888 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 20 minutes ago, djBuffoon said: This. I'm actually leaning towards his side on this particular issue, even if the "joke" was in extremely poor taste. Taking that out of the occasion, he's an odious caricature who thrives on negativity divisiveness and drama. Your comment reminded me of "the boy who cried 'wolf'", so you have complete justification. I don't agree with him whatsoever, but I thought I'd share that with you. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, DrewStevens said: I agree that this is probably one of the least scandalous things he has very said but I he deserves to be treated unfairly. He is a troll and a hypocrite, this is just some taste of his own medicine. There is some karmic justice to this, that is for sure, but also a heaping spoon full of irony. A book about censorship, which was number one on Amazon's best seller list, gets censored just before it's publication. Just now, OliverViennese said: May I ask how old you are? I was repeating what Milo and Willam Belli said, my age and personal experiences are irrelevant to the conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,235 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, FATCAT said: Your comment reminded me of "the boy who cried 'wold'", so you have complete justification. I don't agree with him whatsoever, but I thought I'd share that with you. So sorry, my brain is mush tonight could you explain this more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 1 minute ago, djBuffoon said: So sorry, my brain is mush tonight could you explain this more? The little shepherd boy would cry "wold!" and all the townsfolk would come out and find there were no wolds. One day there was a pack of wolds, and the boy again cried "wold!" Yet this time, no one came, no longer believing the boy's cries, and the little shepherd boy and his flock were eaten. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,235 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, Goosey said: The little shepherd boy would cry "wold!" and all the townsfolk would come out and find there were no wolds. One day there was a pack of wolds, and the boy again cried "wold!" Yet this time, no one came, no longer believing the boy's cries, and the little shepherd boy and his flock were eaten. Oh I'm familiar with the fable, but isn't it "wolf"? I was confused what it had to do with my comment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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