XXXXXXXX 2 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Fake news/alternative facts are the next big memes right now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muscletank 410 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 7 hours ago, LG said: can he honestly get impeached already?! His aide resigned due to his contact with Russia, openly admitted thats why he resigned and said that Trumps known for weeks, and he still has the audacity to take his population for fools? Be careful what you wish for. We would then get Pence who is much more dangerous than Trump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 "The leaks are real but the news is fake." I don't think Trump even knows what he means! Sometimes I forget that I'm not watching SNL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Muscletank said: Be careful what you wish for. We would then get Pence who is much more dangerous than Trump. Pence isn't a narcissistic, thin-skinned, incapable, irrational, delusional man child, who would just as much bring the whole world down with him, than get his ego crushed or lose. He cares for himself and only himself. I would welcome Pence over Trump! He's an ass, but he's not a crazy, delusion filled, paranoid ass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muscletank 410 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Whispering said: Pence isn't a narcissistic, thin-skinned, incapable, irrational, delusional man child, who would just as much bring the whole world down with him, than get his ego crushed or lose. He cares for himself and only himself. I would welcome Pence over Trump! He's an ass, but he's not a crazy, delusion filled, paranoid ass. Pretty much any president is a narcissist. I think it comes with the territory, stemming from the fact that you believe "only you" can lead the country. Hilary was a narcissist. Her whole campaign centred around hitting the "glass ceiling" and that would be her ascent into the history books. Obama was. How many times in the last few weeks before he left office did he talk about "his legacy"? Pence worries me more, because he has a filter and is much more cunning. He believes in Shock therapy for gays. That mindset to me is more worrying that Trump spitting the dummy because he gets criticised by the media. Pence is clever and much more insidious. It's not an enviable position either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 16 minutes ago, Whispering said: Pence isn't a narcissistic, thin-skinned, incapable, irrational, delusional man child, who would just as much bring the whole world down with him, than get his ego crushed or lose. He cares for himself and only himself. I would welcome Pence over Trump! He's an ass, but he's not a crazy, delusion filled, paranoid ass. The problem is they are both extremists. Pence has a extreme conservative stance on many issues that affect the gay community, women's health and the enviorment directly. Then there is that mess of a human being Trump. I honestly would like to see Pence involved in some way in this scandal because honestly I think Paul Ryan is the least harmful of the three. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said: The problem is they are both extremists. Pence has a extreme conservative stance on many issues that affect the gay community, women's health and the enviorment directly. It's not an 'extreme conservative' stance, it's a regular conservative stance. At least, by American standards. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muscletank 410 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Goosey said: It's not an 'extreme conservative' stance, it's a regular conservative stance. At least, by American standards. Unfortunatley the USA only has 2 realistic options to choose from. Right wing and Far right wing. There isn't really a left of centre choice in the USA, let alone a flat out left wing party. Even Bernie Sanders had some views that a majority of Europeans would see as classic right wing or conservative and he was much more to the left than Hilary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Does he really think he can convince the deplorables that voted for him that hes still innocent in all of this? He think is he can turn them against even well respected news sources that they will always support him, but news flash, they voted for him in spite of his temperament and lying behavior. Of those deplorables, not that many still believe or ever believed that he was an intelligent, kind, capable man. They just put up with his bull **** because he espoused and endorsed ignorant, bigoted views and behaviors. But the left (and to some extent, the right on certain topics) will NOT let that go. They will hold him accountable at every single step. Good Luck winning that battle. He'd have to literally limit the use of the internet and media for news to stop this spiral. Or like, get smart, but so far he's not budged an inch in decades in terms of his demeanor, speaking patterns, and general intelligence, so why would It happen now 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Goosey said: It's not an 'extreme conservative' stance, it's a regular conservative stance. At least, by American standards. I think you are confusing conservatives with extreme conservative religious zealots. There are plenty of conservatives who don't want to strip gays of their rights or have the Bible taught in schools and who believe a woman's body is her own, but they also have very conservative views on the economy. Pence is an extreme conservative religious zealot. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 12 minutes ago, Muscletank said: Pretty much any president is a narcissist. I think it comes with the territory, stemming from the fact that you believe "only you" can lead the country. Hilary was a narcissist. Her whole campaign centred around hitting the "glass ceiling" and that would be her ascent into the history books. Obama was. How many times in the last few weeks before he left office did he talk about "his legacy"? Pence worries me more, because he has a filter and is much more cunning. He believes in Shock therapy for gays. That mindset to me is more worrying that Trump spitting the dummy because he gets criticised by the media. Pence is clever and much more insidious. It's not an enviable position either way. Trump isn't just egotistical, he is a toxic narcissist, one who shows a complete lack of empathy. Hillary spent her entire life working with women and children, the poor and minorities. She has a circle of friends and people who work with her (who aren't straight up crazy) who are loyal to her because of her years of dedication and decency. Obama is the same, even putting aside his feelings for the good of the country in the end after Trump won. There is absolutely no comparison from Trump, to Hillary, Obama, Biden... That's just ridiculous to even compare Trump to normal human beings, ones that care for others and have the capacity for empathy and to think outside of themselves. Pence is a normal asshole conservative. He would suck, but I'm not worried about him having the nuclear codes in his suit pocket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 minute ago, JustLikeHoney said: I think you are confusing conservatives with extreme conservative religious zealots. There are plenty of conservatives who don't want to strip gays of their rights or have the Bible taught in schools and who believe a woman's body is her own, but they also have very conservative views on the economy. Pence is an extreme conservative religious zealot. You're saying those who oppose abortion are 'extreme conservative religious zealots'? Well, that's basically all of the GOP. Pence is not extreme by American standards. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 6 hours ago, FATCAT said: How is it "embarrassing"? He's an authoritarian who's best friends is a white supremacist and self proclaimed lennonist. if only he were a lennonist I think you meant leninist to quote Bannon, quoting Lenin: "“Lenin,” he answered, “wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.”" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muscletank 410 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Whispering said: Trump isn't just egotistical, he is a toxic narcissist, one who shows a complete lack of empathy. Hillary spent her entire life working with women and children, the poor and minorities. She has a circle of friends and people who work with her (who aren't straight up crazy) who are loyal to her because of her years of dedication and decency. Obama is the same, even putting aside his feelings for the good of the country in the end after Trump won. There is absolutely no comparison from Trump, to Hillary, Obama, Biden... That's just ridiculous to even compare Trump to normal human beings, ones that care for others and have the capacity for empathy and to think outside of themselves. Pence is a normal asshole conservative. He would suck, but I'm not worried about him having the nuclear codes in his suit pocket. Sorry, I will disagree with you regarding Hillary and her "decency". She's as self serving as they come and her own brand of narcissism with the belief that it was "her turn", landed us with Trump. Literally anyone else could probably have won against him. She didn't seem to show too much empathy towards Julian Assange when her proposed solution for the wikileaks controversy was "can't we just drone him?". Had Elizabeth Warren been in the running instead, would we now be facing a different course of history? I guess we won't ever know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Muscletank said: Sorry, I will disagree with you regarding Hillary and her "decency". She's as self serving as they come and her own brand of narcissism with the belief that it was "her turn", landed us with Trump. Literally anyone else could probably have won against him. She didn't seem to show too much empathy towards Julian Assange when her proposed solution for the wikileaks controversy was "can't we just drone him?". Had Elizabeth Warren been in the running instead, would we now be facing a different course of history? I guess we won't ever know. Yeah, that's why she spent her life working to help others, including taking a job straight out of college that focused on exactly that. Ohhhh, you are one of those "my guy didn't win, was wah" people. Lol, enough said. It was "her turn" because she won the nomination...five million more people voted for her. Elizabeth Warren? She didn't even run. We won't know because she didn't get out there and run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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