Chromatislaps 34,854 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 “[Trump] also wanted me to get rid of the blacks that were in the building by telling them cheap housing was available for them at only $500 down payment, which Trump would offer to pay himself. Trump didn’t tell me where this housing was located,” he said. Full article: Spoiler The FBI on Wednesday released hundreds of pages of its notes surrounding the 1970s investigation of racial discrimination in housing units owned by Trump Management Co., run by President Donald Trump’s late father, Fred. The probe, which took place from 1972 to 1974, was part of one of the largest of such discrimination cases brought in that era. The Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division ultimately filed a suit in 1973. Donald Trump, 27 years old at the time and four years out of business school, held a news conference at a Manhattan hotel, calling the government’s claims “such outrageous lies,” according to an in-depth account of the case published by the Washington Post last year. The company countersued the government, asking for $100 million in damages for false allegations of discrimination. Within the FBI’s newly released documents, totaling 389 pages, are notes by law enforcement and numerous interviews with Trump Management Co. employees and management, in addition to tenants of the building. Many of the interviewees said that they had never seen any discrimination against African-Americans or Puerto Ricans. One tenant told FBI investigators that “it was obvious that she had not been discriminated against since she, in fact, a Negro female, had been rented an apartment” at one of the buildings owned by Trump Management Co., documents say. The FBI released the documents on an area of its website called "The Vault," a section dedicated to topics that the bureau has received a large volume of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. However, one employee told investigators that he or she had been specifically directed by the elder Trump to screen applicants and not “rent to blacks,” and to steer them to other buildings. “I asked Fred Trump what his policy was regarding minorities and he said it was absolutely against the law to discriminate. At a later time during my two weeks at [one Trump building], Fred Trump told me not to rent to blacks,” said the unnamed employee, who was eventually fired. “[Trump] also wanted me to get rid of the blacks that were in the building by telling them cheap housing was available for them at only $500 down payment, which Trump would offer to pay himself. Trump didn’t tell me where this housing was located,” he said. The employee also noted that he or she thought that the rental office often wrote codes on the top of rental applications to distinguish between black and white applicants. Other documents in the case against Trump, reviewed by the Washington Post last year, corroborate the employee’s account. The court documents detail the experience of a husband and wife who rented properties, who said they had been told the Trump Management Co. “wanted to rent only to Jews and Executives’ and ‘discouraged rental to blacks,’” according to the Post. “The couple told the government’s lawyers that they were advised that ‘a racial code was in effect, blacks being referred to as ‘No. 9.’ ”” The FBI noted that several building managers did not have fair housing law posters in their offices, as required by the Department of Housing and Urban Development, and told agents they were not aware they had to have them. Many employees stated they had not been instructed to discriminate against applicants based on race, and maintained that income became the primary reason that individuals were denied apartments. One employee remarked that some income requirements seemed too high. As noted by a Politico report, a man who had previously been a doorman at one property said that a supervisor had instructed him to tell potential African-American tenants that the rent was "twice as much as it really was, in order that he could not afford the apartment.” Other employees and tenants offered up observations of “Negros, Puerto Ricans and Orientals” living in the buildings. In June 1973, FBI agents were ordered “to give this case preferred attention on a daily basis.” The bureau created a new set of criteria that it needed answered for the case. If anyone previously interviewed had not been asked those questions, they needed to be re-interviewed, a memo said. For example, they began to ask employees about “phony leases” arrangements used to discriminate against minorities. A large portion of employees of Trump’s company interviewed by the FBI denied having any knowledge of these tools. One former building superintendent, interviewed in 1974, told investigators that the “phony lease” technique had been used by other superintendents employed by Trump during his tenure with the company, but refused to name names. “He would only state he had heard this from more than two superintendents and was of the opinion it was a common practice.” However, he denied that racial discrimination was encouraged by the company and said that he did not know of any person rejected on the basis of race. Many of the pages released by the FBI contain redactions, primarily for privacy and law enforcement reasons. Because the documents are dated — and some notes are hand-written — some are illegible. Eventually, the government and Trump Management entered into a consent decree in June 1975. The Trumps admitted no wrongdoing and were prohibited from “discriminating against any person in the terms, conditions, or privileges of sale or rental of a dwelling.” They were also required to take out advertisements notifying minority individuals that they had an equal opportunity to seek hosing at Trump properties. Both the federal government and Trump hailed the settlement as a victory. source: http://thehill.com/homenews/news/319788-fbi-releases-documents-related-to-trump-apartment-discrimination-case Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Hollywood 37,364 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 well well well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeeshy Keety 9,935 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Seems too universally terrible to be true His supporters can justify anything, but this would be too much for even (most of) them. If true, though, this is awful, and I hate him further. I'll gladly accept a WP for that They / Them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heda97 2,399 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Can Gaga perform at his Impeachment celebrations? Im á Katycat on Fridays #tgif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 This is why Gaga sang This Land is Your Land at the Superbowl. The author disliked Trump's father because of this. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luiz 4,253 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 like i said on ATRL: 40 year old allegations from an unnamed employee? and it was a building owned by FRED trump, his father. NOT donald. all donald did was defend his father by saying it isnt true (anyone would) this is a non story. the thread title is accurate, though misleading i doubt this will be the one to take him down. the russia allegations are the only ones hat have legs. this info was already known anyways wasnt it? i heard about this during the election and it went nowhere then as well I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 11 minutes ago, Luiz said: like i said on ATRL: 40 year old allegations from an unnamed employee? and it was a building owned by FRED trump, his father. NOT donald. all donald did was defend his father by saying it isnt true (anyone would) this is a non story. the thread title is accurate, though misleading i doubt this will be the one to take him down. the russia allegations are the only ones hat have legs. this info was already known anyways wasnt it? i heard about this during the election and it went nowhere then as well Do you think the FBI would release this if it were blatantly untrue, possibly deligitimizing themselves and putting their relations with Trump at such a big risk? this is not a Daily Mail article. I'm glad FBI is now on the ship that wants him impeached. Comey should also be punished for treason, considering he knew about Trump's Russian relations and actually helped the puppet win. Treason is corporal punishment, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luiz 4,253 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Luc said: Do you think the FBI would release this if it were blatantly untrue, possibly deligitimizing themselves and putting their relations with Trump at such a big risk? this is not a Daily Mail article. I'm glad FBI is now on the ship that wants him impeached. Comey should also be punished for treason, considering he knew about Trump's Russian relations and actually helped the puppet win. Treason is corporal punishment, no? i never once said that the article lied about anything, i said that it isnt significant to his impeachment. the evidence is shaky enough for his supporters to deny. its just them trying to make him look bad with old news. his campaign/administration's ties to russia are what may get him treason i do believe carries the death penalty I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausofkc 2,530 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Everyone warned and warned of the mess he was involved it.....and here we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I don't think this has any legs tbh. This is mainly about Donald's father. And the sources are very limited with evidence. But... I wouldn't be surprised if any of this was true. The black community is in a shithole because of housing discrimination from those times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, Luiz said: i never once said that the article lied about anything, i said that it isnt significant to his impeachment. the evidence is shaky enough for his supporters to deny. its just them trying to make him look bad with old news. his campaign/administration's ties to russia are what may get him treason i do believe carries the death penalty That's true. It's putting pressure on the Trump administration to do something quickly. But what can they do? It looks like it's becoming either a quick death or a slow death, and I'd bet Trump's going for the latter. Too bad for them, because European intelligence agencies (especially Baltics, UK) have been collecting information on Trump's ties to Russia (even focussing on Tillerson-Sechin) since a long time before the election. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luiz 4,253 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Luc said: That's true. It's putting pressure on the Trump administration to do something quickly. But what can they do? It looks like it's becoming either a quick death or a slow death, and I'd bet Trump's going for the latter. Too bad for them, because European intelligence agencies (especially Baltics, UK) have been collecting information on Trump's ties to Russia (even focussing on Tillerson-Sechin) since a long time before the election. the fact that other nations are corroborating the allegations is the most significant development so far. we look are being made to look like a puppet nation of russia not only by disgruntled american voters, but also other world governments. if it becomes widely agreed upon by our western allies that trump is a toy of a rival such as Putin and Russia, congress may have no choice but to step in and end the fiasco to preserve our prominence as the leader of the west. or maybe the world goes full crazy and right wingers take over everywhere. one thing that looks scary to me is how brexit is a right wing movement, trump is right wing, that Marine le pen woan is right wing and gaining momentum in france. russia is more comfortable with right wing governments i think and of course who is the outlier in all of this that is maintaining liberal values? Germany. france, UK, US, Russia all on the same page with Germany on her own(it would seem) now were far from WW3 imo but the dynamics(am i using this word correctly? kind of out of it rn) are shifting in a fashion that is eerily akin to the first half of the 20th century(WW1 & WW2). or have i smoked myself paranoid? I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Luiz said: the fact that other nations are corroborating the allegations is the most significant development so far. we look are being made to look like a puppet nation of russia not only by disgruntled american voters, but also other world governments. if it becomes widely agreed upon by our western allies that trump is a toy of a rival such as Putin and Russia, congress may have no choice but to step in and end the fiasco to preserve our prominence as the leader of the west. or maybe the world goes full crazy and right wingers take over everywhere. one thing that looks scary to me is how brexit is a right wing movement, trump is right wing, that Marine le pen woan is right wing and gaining momentum in france. russia is more comfortable with right wing governments i think and of course who is the outlier in all of this that is maintaining liberal values? Germany. france, UK, US, Russia all on the same page with Germany on her own(it would seem) now were far from WW3 imo but the dynamics(am i using this word correctly? kind of out of it rn) are shifting in a fashion that is eerily akin to the first half of the 20th century(WW1 & WW2). or have i smoked myself paranoid? As if the GOP in Congress gives a **** about the position of the US in the world... only when it benefits their donors (and military industries) and allows them to stay into power for longer. I don't believe Le Pen is winning the elections, though. She's way behind in polling for the second round. Russia's tactics are scary. In geopolitics, though, Fillon could be just as friendly towards Russia. As far as I know Russia's mostly been pushing Fillon, while declining Le Pen a loan. In the Netherlands, the far right lost 20% of their support in polls this week. Looking good at the moment. The current assumption is that Trump is scaring the anti-establishment voter here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooo 407 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 16 hours ago, Luiz said: like i said on ATRL: 40 year old allegations from an unnamed employee? and it was a building owned by FRED trump, his father. NOT donald. all donald did was defend his father by saying it isnt true (anyone would) this is a non story. the thread title is accurate, though misleading i doubt this will be the one to take him down. the russia allegations are the only ones hat have legs. this info was already known anyways wasnt it? i heard about this during the election and it went nowhere then as well yeah ok its free information available to everyone that trumps father was in the KKK so yeah ok go on having blinders on. or ya know...go read all 389 pages in the vault. it doesn't matter that it happened in the 70s. until black lives matter this is still a problem so it still needs to be talked about. we didn't know most of what went on back then until now. SO IT WILL STILL MATTER! it matters bc it is STILL happening. redlining is illegal, what the trumps did is illegal, BUT ITS STILL HAPPENIG. IT MATTERS. its not a non story. it is a part of THE story of what is happening to minorities in america. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I'm beginning to think that Trump is a racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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