Why is queen Shakira so underrated?

[Arturo 40,746]

6 hours ago, Bambino said:

1. She's not underrated. Everyone in the world knows who she is.

2. She's not the queen of Latin pop. Paulina Rubio is.

3. Her music has become generic trash.

nope. 

3+3

Shakira - Chantaje (Official video) ft. Maluma

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173M streams on Spotify. Also the highest peaking spanish song on Spotify. Shakira wins in every metric.

[Bambino 24,267]

13 hours ago, Arturo said:

nope. 

3+3

Shakira - Chantaje (Official video) ft. Maluma

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173M streams on Spotify. Also the highest peaking spanish song on Spotify. Shakira wins in every metric.

If Maluma's song with Thalia has hundreds of millions of views, imagine the massive views he may have featuring Shakira. Not saying she's not popular, but I'm saying she's where she is now thanks to her English-language music, not her Latin pop music, unlike Paulina.

Shakira is slowing becoming irrelevant and she's jumping on trends to save her career. First Rihanna and now Maluma. Let's not forget the FIFA songs every year.

[Ricardo 7,819]

1 hour ago, Bambino said:

If Maluma's song with Thalia has hundreds of millions of views, imagine the massive views he may have featuring Shakira. Not saying she's not popular, but I'm saying she's where she is now thanks to her English-language music, not her Latin pop music, unlike Paulina.

Shakira is slowing becoming irrelevant and she's jumping on trends to save her career. First Rihanna and now Maluma. Let's not forget the FIFA songs every year.

well first of all neither are Maluma's song, they are featurings, Shakira may have rely on Maluma's recent success to make Chantaje a hit but she has done it before with Pitbull, so has Paulina but sadly it didn't work for her and she tried again with Juan Magan, which didn't work out either

you are clearly a Paulina stan but she is no way bigger than Shakira, if you think that you are delusional

and Shakira is big in Latin America because her incredible early work and her recent music style (which I personally consider a sell out) from Loba/She Wolf onwards but Paulina is only known in Mexico and here she's not even respected as everyone mocks her, not saying she is not big because along with Thalia, Yuri and Gloria Trevi they might be the biggest pop stars from Mexico but they are nowhere near to have the same success and recognition Shakira has worldwide

 

[Decodekid 28,213]

On 2/14/2017 at 2:18 PM, emig09 said:

JLo > Shajaira 

ew no

JLo is so meh 

[emig09 24,701]

1 minute ago, Decodekid said:

ew no

JLo is so meh 

Ok

Marimar > Shakuajaira

[Decodekid 28,213]

Just now, emig09 said:

Ok

Marimar > Shakuajaira

gurl you're not funny putting those names like that 

respeta el artista 

still Shakira is better 

[StrawberryBlond 14,828]

The problem is, she's insisting on singing in Spanish a lot and not promoting herself in English-speaking regions or even any non-Hispanic regions. After the big success of Hips Don't Lie, she ironically decided to stop trying so hard to be an international superstar. She went on to make albums that didn't have good promotion and made a full-on Spanish album. Sure, Spanish is a massive world language but there's also many millions more who don't know a word of it. But English is a massive second language, the world's best back-up. She's perfectly capable of singing in English, so why doesn't she do it more? Personally, if I was bilingual, I'd make 2 versions of all my albums - the same songs in different languages. Yet, Shakira only does this for one single. Her English songs are completely different from her Spanish ones. Why doesn't she translate them so both speakers get the same listening experience? I couldn't stand the thought that people who had bought my previous work in their language couldn't understand some of my work in my native tongue. I've forgotten a lot of my Spanish but I can understand some stuff here and there but even so, I never have the same experience listening to her Spanish work as I do her English stuff. I don't think it's just that I can understand her English work because even with the subtitles, I feel like a lot of her Spanish work is pretty substandard, truth be told. Chantaje grew on me but really, the only other Spanish songs from her that I enjoyed are La Tortura and Gordita. Some Spanish versions of her English singles are ok too but likely only because I've got such a connection to the English version.

I don't know how her management let her get away with restricting herself so much to Latin communities. She's a gorgeous, sexy woman who doesn't seem to age - she'll obviously appeal to almost every nation on earth. Not putting her out into the wider music world is like buying a Ferarri and locking it in the garage. And I'd also say the same in regards to her being averse to making English music. It was an amazing opportunity for her to duet with Rihanna but she wasted that chance on a mediocre song. It's pretty much evident by now that Sia's Move Your Body was meant for her - it does sound like Sia is emulating her vocals. That song sounds like it was made for the clubs and it would have appealed to English speakers but Shakira turned it down and I have no idea why. She can't be big in the rest of the world if she isn't putting in the effort to appeal.

[Bambino 24,267]

1 hour ago, Ricardo said:

well first of all neither are Maluma's song, they are featurings, Shakira may have rely on Maluma's recent success to make Chantaje a hit but she has done it before with Pitbull, so has Paulina but sadly it didn't work for her and she tried again with Juan Magan, which didn't work out either

you are clearly a Paulina stan but she is no way bigger than Shakira, if you think that you are delusional

and Shakira is big in Latin America because her incredible early work and her recent music style (which I personally consider a sell out) from Loba/She Wolf onwards but Paulina is only known in Mexico and here she's not even respected as everyone mocks her, not saying she is not big because along with Thalia, Yuri and Gloria Trevi they might be the biggest pop stars from Mexico but they are nowhere near to have the same success and recognition Shakira has worldwide

Paulina got Pitbull to feature on a remix of a song that was already a single, and it was Juan Magan that got her on his song. In one of her recent singles, she asked a local reggaeton duo to remix her song, while Thalia asked Maluma to be on her song. Paulina should've asked Maluma but she's not that interested in her career anymore. But that's not the topic

I didn't say Paulina is more popular, recognized or famous than Shakira. All I'm saying is that Shakira is recognized worldwide not because of her Spanish language music or Latin pop, but because of her sellout English songs and FIFA songs too, which in my opinion doesn't make a 'queen of Latin pop.' Other divas are more deserving of such a title, including Paulina.

Paulina, on the other hand, got where she got, even though it may not be at some place bigger thank Shakira's, but she got it thanks to her Latin pop roots. She tried to crossover with an English album once, which did moderately good worldwide but she didn't bother to try again.

Ask anyone who's not Latin about a Shakira song they're familiar with, would their answer be "Waka Waka" or "Dónde Están los Ladrones?"

[alestevens 116]

On 14/2/2017 at 2:59 PM, TCHIKITAH said:

Because she's generally a Latin Pop star not a Global star. Just cause she did the Waka Waka song for the FIFA World Cup doesn't automatically make her a Global star. She's far from that still 

LOL the very least you could do is take a look at her chart history before commenting.

UK:

#1 Beautiful Liar

#1 Hips Dont Lie

#2 Whenever, Wherever

#3 Underneath Your Clothes

#4 She Wolf

#9 Dont Bother

#11 Cant Remember To Forget You

Australia:

#1 Hips Dont Lie

#1 Underneath Your Clothes

#1 Whenever, Wherevee

#2 Objection (Tango)

#5 Beautiful Liar

#18 Cant Remember To Forget You

France:

#1 Beautiful Liar

#1 Hips Dont Lie

#1 Je Laime A Mourir

#1 Waka Waka

#1 Whenever, Wherevee

#2 Loca

#2 Underneath Your Clothes

#5 Cant Remember To Forget You

#6 Rabiosa

#7 La Tortura

#10 Objection (Tango)

#11 La La La

#14 Chantaje

#15 Addicted To You

#15 Ojos Asi

Germany:

#1 Beautiful Liar

#1 Hips Dont Lie

#1 Waka Waka

#1 Whenever, Wherever

#2 She Wolf

#2 Underneath Your Clothes

#4 La Tortura

#6 Loca

#7 Dont Bother

#7 Gypsy

#8 Cant Remember To Forget You

#11 Illegal

#12 La La La

#19 Objection (Tango)

#20 Chantaje

[Carlitos 99]

On 2/16/2017 at 4:28 PM, Bambino said:

Paulina got Pitbull to feature on a remix of a song that was already a single, and it was Juan Magan that got her on his song. In one of her recent singles, she asked a local reggaeton duo to remix her song, while Thalia asked Maluma to be on her song. Paulina should've asked Maluma but she's not that interested in her career anymore. But that's not the topic

I didn't say Paulina is more popular, recognized or famous than Shakira. All I'm saying is that Shakira is recognized worldwide not because of her Spanish language music or Latin pop, but because of her sellout English songs and FIFA songs too, which in my opinion doesn't make a 'queen of Latin pop.' Other divas are more deserving of such a title, including Paulina.

Paulina, on the other hand, got where she got, even though it may not be at some place bigger thank Shakira's, but she got it thanks to her Latin pop roots. She tried to crossover with an English album once, which did moderately good worldwide but she didn't bother to try again.

Ask anyone who's not Latin about a Shakira song they're familiar with, would their answer be "Waka Waka" or "Dónde Están los Ladrones?"

You're giving Paulina too much credit. I honestly can't remember what was Paulina's last hit single.

While I agree with you that Shakira went the generic route, give credit where it's due.

[The Child 18,997]

6 hours ago, alestevens said:

LOL the very least you could do is take a look at her chart history before commenting.

UK:

#1 Beautiful Liar

#1 Hips Dont Lie

#2 Whenever, Wherever

#3 Underneath Your Clothes

#4 She Wolf

#9 Dont Bother

#11 Cant Remember To Forget You

Australia:

#1 Hips Dont Lie

#1 Underneath Your Clothes

#1 Whenever, Wherevee

#2 Objection (Tango)

#5 Beautiful Liar

#18 Cant Remember To Forget You

France:

#1 Beautiful Liar

#1 Hips Dont Lie

#1 Je Laime A Mourir

#1 Waka Waka

#1 Whenever, Wherevee

#2 Loca

#2 Underneath Your Clothes

#5 Cant Remember To Forget You

#6 Rabiosa

#7 La Tortura

#10 Objection (Tango)

#11 La La La

#14 Chantaje

#15 Addicted To You

#15 Ojos Asi

Germany:

#1 Beautiful Liar

#1 Hips Dont Lie

#1 Waka Waka

#1 Whenever, Wherever

#2 She Wolf

#2 Underneath Your Clothes

#4 La Tortura

#6 Loca

#7 Dont Bother

#7 Gypsy

#8 Cant Remember To Forget You

#11 Illegal

#12 La La La

#19 Objection (Tango)

#20 Chantaje

We love her here in France!