Bebe 17,094 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 "I am not sure how many of you realized but she was representing a spider during the performance." Really? I don't see how. "Crawling down from the roof" - well no, she "fell" from the roof, the idea was that she jumped off the roof and fell. " and also million reasons part where crowd forms a big spider " No, at no point does the crowd form a spider... The crowd becomes a spiral that leads to Gaga - but at no point does the crowd become a figure with eight legs. "and her capturing all the dancers during the Bad Romance (their costumes looked web like) " There is nothing about this that looks 'web' like to me they are just white clothes. If anything, from the photos of some of the helmets - I get more of an ice monster vibe: There was a juxtaposition between the ice-monster aesthetic and the fire shooting into the air. A kind of bad romance. There is no evidence to suggest intel video was about the Superbowl... I mean Intel released those videos to promote The Grammy performance and then did a BTS thing. Gaga wouldn't have even had the SB gig at that point. David said "Somebody else took his place," in Blackstar that doesn't mean he was predicting Gaga would take his place. The line was more general than that - the idea that future artists and bands will carry on the torch and his legacy. There are two stars on Gaga's stage - but they are not similar to the fragmented stars on Blackstar. The shapes don't match. There is no way that Gaga predicted or planned the superbowl or Bowie's death that's when it just becomes too crazy/conspiratorial for me. She was this weird fashionista alien flying through space with giant shoulder pads, that are used by footballers but also in fashion. Gaga and Rihanna were known for their huge shoulder pads at the time. Some parts are interesting, but there are some leaps in logic to get to "There is a link between David Bowie's death and Gaga's super bowl with Intel & it was all planned and hinted to us in like 2009" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVID VOGUER 1,956 Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 4 hours ago, Bebe said: "I am not sure how many of you realized but she was representing a spider during the performance." Really? I don't see how. "Crawling down from the roof" - well no, she "fell" from the roof, the idea was that she jumped off the roof and fell. " and also million reasons part where crowd forms a big spider " No, at no point does the crowd form a spider... The crowd becomes a spiral that leads to Gaga - but at no point does the crowd become a figure with eight legs. "and her capturing all the dancers during the Bad Romance (their costumes looked web like) " There is nothing about this that looks 'web' like to me they are just white clothes. If anything, from the photos of some of the helmets - I get more of an ice monster vibe: There was a juxtaposition between the ice-monster aesthetic and the fire shooting into the air. A kind of bad romance. There is no evidence to suggest intel video was about the Superbowl... I mean Intel released those videos to promote The Grammy performance and then did a BTS thing. Gaga wouldn't have even had the SB gig at that point. David said "Somebody else took his place," in Blackstar that doesn't mean he was predicting Gaga would take his place. The line was more general than that - the idea that future artists and bands will carry on the torch and his legacy. There are two stars on Gaga's stage - but they are not similar to the fragmented stars on Blackstar. The shapes don't match. There is no way that Gaga predicted or planned the superbowl or Bowie's death that's when it just becomes too crazy/conspiratorial for me. She was this weird fashionista alien flying through space with giant shoulder pads, that are used by footballers but also in fashion. Gaga and Rihanna were known for their huge shoulder pads at the time. Some parts are interesting, but there are some leaps in logic to get to "There is a link between David Bowie's death and Gaga's super bowl with Intel & it was all planned and hinted to us in like 2009" I'm not sure if you ever saw a spider but this is how he moves while crawling down or should I say hanging from a web. Exactly how Gaga moved while coming down from the roof. 2:40 Spoiler Next, this is how dense spider web looks like. Spoiler Let's see it during the halftime show Spoiler Also, guess what? Here's Bad Romance performance right before the bridge. Spoiler I've seen many things during the performance but not a single spiral. This is a spiral Spoiler And this is a spider Spoiler Oh my! That belly looks somewhat familiar. Spoiler These were the basics. Don't even try me with more detailed things... Someone who is not able to analyse or assume stuff doesn't have right to bash other people's theories. I'm not sure how old are you but pretty please don't act like you know things, because you don't. I don't do it, I assume things (there's a difference), collecting similar pieces of puzzles together. You should try doing that instead of being rude and wiseacre. They can't scare me, if I scare them first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister 9,907 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I love your analysis and I can see it and will take it, true or not. I did see spiders during her performance and she reminded me of a true to life Superhero for the age, just like Bowie kids saw their Ziggy Stardust. The future's uncertain and the end is always near. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraNova 0 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Off-topic, but can someone tell me who this Gaga dancer is? *Major crush* http://www.trbimg.com/img-5897e0d4/turbine/la-et-super-bowl-halftime-lady-gaga-pictures-003/600 He's the tall one in the back right next to her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkSpectre0 547 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 9 hours ago, DAVID VOGUER said: And I'm sorry if it's a mess of a post. I just had to write down a few thoughts. But please think about it and discuss. I'm totally into this whole theory but I'm too high to craft a response tonight. Thanks for all the links I really wanna look into this. Gaga is very smart and subtle in the references she adds into her stage etc so I wouldn't put this past her. Plus it was very bowie-esque Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
youandi 2,110 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 1 hour ago, DAVID VOGUER said: I'm not sure if you ever saw a spider but this is how he moves while crawling down or should I say hanging from a web. Exactly how Gaga moved while coming down from the roof. 2:40 Hide contents Next, this is how dense spider web looks like. Hide contents Let's see it during the halftime show Hide contents Also, guess what? Here's Bad Romance performance right before the bridge. Hide contents I've seen many things during the performance but not a single spiral. This is a spiral Reveal hidden contents And this is a spider Hide contents Oh my! That belly looks somewhat familiar. Hide contents These were the basics. Don't even try me with more detailed things... Someone who is not able to analyse or assume stuff doesn't have right to bash other people's theories. I'm not sure how old are you but pretty please don't act like you know things, because you don't. I don't do it, I assume things (there's a difference), collecting similar pieces of puzzles together. You should try doing that instead of being rude and wiseacre. I really found a lot of what you said interesting but how rude of you! Don't you dare assume someone doesn't know things because they don't agree with your analysis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVID VOGUER 1,956 Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 1 minute ago, youandi said: I really found a lot of what you said interesting but how rude of you! Don't you dare assume someone doesn't know things because they don't agree with your analysis. I just backfired, he's the rude one. It's not that he disagrees on my theory but he's insolent about it. Some people before him didn't agree on it either and I didn't respond that way to them... They can't scare me, if I scare them first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,094 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 3 hours ago, DAVID VOGUER said: I'm not sure if you ever saw a spider but this is how he moves while crawling down or should I say hanging from a web. Exactly how Gaga moved while coming down from the roof. 2:40 Reveal hidden contents Next, this is how dense spider web looks like. Reveal hidden contents Let's see it during the halftime show Reveal hidden contents Also, guess what? Here's Bad Romance performance right before the bridge. Reveal hidden contents I've seen many things during the performance but not a single spiral. This is a spiral Reveal hidden contents And this is a spider Reveal hidden contents Oh my! That belly looks somewhat familiar. Reveal hidden contents These were the basics. Don't even try me with more detailed things... Someone who is not able to analyse or assume stuff doesn't have right to bash other people's theories. I'm not sure how old are you but pretty please don't act like you know things, because you don't. I don't do it, I assume things (there's a difference), collecting similar pieces of puzzles together. You should try doing that instead of being rude and wiseacre. I'm not trying to be rude or bash your theory I'm sorry if you were offended by my bluntness - but I wasn't trying to be a ****. I'm aware of how spiders move thanks, but the point is that she is falling. You have every right to disagree and think it's about spiders - but as I explained it doesn't seem that way at all to me. Gaga jumped off the roof, she moved her arms as if she was falling. A spiral is a winding in a continuous and gradually widening (or tightening) curve, either around a central point on a flat plane or about an axis so as to form a cone. It isn't the prettiest spiral, but I think it's fair to call it a spiral. The 'spiral' at no point looks like a spider with 8 legs. At most it looks like a sun with rays off it A spider has 8 legs just because the ball at the center could be seen as looking a little like a belly of a particular kind of spider doesn't mean it's a spider. Like I said, the theory is interesting at times, I don't have a huge problem with your spider theory - I just disagree. I think your strongest evidence is the 'web like' costumes - but I think that's even a bit of a reach, when looking at the works of the designer up close you can see the icy formations, stalactites and shards. I happen to think it's more of an ice-monster type aesthetic. The last part about Bowie's death being planned along with Gaga's super bowl performance does go into a bit of a crazy/conspiratorial territory though I'm sure as a reasonable person you can admit that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HausOfMark 4,277 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 hmmm -Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson123 38,415 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 I won't say you're reaching because it's possible that Gaga is doing this on purpose. She has been throwing Bowie references since forever and it could be true. Maybe not all of the things you said but she in some way uses elements of him on her work and maybe some are just coincidences but could also be true. Lady Gaga and Marilyn Manson are my two favorite artists and I've seen a lot of David Bowie on their music and imagery, so it's very possible that the SuperBowl was part of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 While I don't necessarily think that was Gaga's main intention, I do think OP made a very interesting interpretation. And honestly? It's just so nice to have her visual artwork open for interpretation again. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVID VOGUER 1,956 Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 Just now, Miel said: It's just so nice to have her visual artwork open for interpretation again. THIS! ^ They can't scare me, if I scare them first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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