Chart Discussion: Million Reasons / Joanne

[GAGAISTHEBESTYA 6,895]

8 minutes ago, FRANZGA said:

so this means 210-300 copies sold of the number1 song, since we can assume that addtional copies had been sold too aside from that 40 gifts.. meaning 135-190 copies of MR sold??

 now lemme ask you chartsters coz i'm quite a newbie, assuming my assumptions above are correct, is that sales the TOTAL sales from the first tracking hour of the day?? or it's the sales collected the past 2 or more hours the last time it has updated??

enlighten me.. 

I don't know too I think its the sales collected

[spanishmonster 11,002]

4 minutes ago, OBEY said:

Canada

62. Million Reasons (+4)

The impact of that HAC add!

[OBEY 57,109]

3 minutes ago, OBEY said:

Canada

62. Million Reasons (+4)

The station that added Million Reasons yesterday played it twice, one arond 11AM and 11PM yesterday  

Today they played TEOG and BTW during early morning. Time to request MR again  

[GagaStan95 10,478]

8 minutes ago, Luc said:

We were all celebrating back in November with the Apple Music commercial boosting ha but I think that that's the reason Spotify is boycotting Joanne

I think Spotify is acting normal. I mean she wasn't in the italian playlist until she touched top50, then Spotify added it in 3 playlists. At this point It's them not to pay

[brizoda 3,939]

Spotify is ruining music

[Gypsygaga1 3,623]

2 minutes ago, GagaStan95 said:

I think Spotify is acting normal. I mean she wasn't in the italian playlist until she touched top50, then Spotify added it in 3 playlists. At this point It's them not to pay

But something is wrong with the hot tracks on spotify.Body Say was 3 months there

[Luc 4,775]

4 minutes ago, FRANZGA said:

so this means 210-300 copies sold of the number1 song, since we can assume that addtional copies had been sold too aside from that 40 gifts.. meaning 135-190 copies of MR sold??

 now lemme ask you chartsters coz i'm quite a newbie, assuming my assumptions above are correct, is that sales the TOTAL sales from the first tracking hour of the day?? or it's the sales collected the past 2 or more hours the last time it has updated??

enlighten me.. 

the number (e.g. 0.660) is always from the past 24 hours. A boost from one update to the next always means that the song did better in relation to the #1 in sales.

For example MR sold 20 copies over the course of two hours on the beginning of a day, and the #1 sold 50. The next 22 hours they sell 240 and 600 copies respectively. At the end of the 24 hours MR would thus be at 0.4000 (240/600) and the #1 at 1.000. Now imagine the next day MR sells 30 copies instead of 20 in the first 2 hours while the #1 song again sells 50 copies in these 2 hours. MR will thus have sold 240-20+30 copies the last 24 hours while the #1 song is at 600 copies. Thus, MR moves from 0.4000 to 0.4167 (250/600) with the #1 at 1.000.

 

By the way, in every country besides Japan, the US, the UK and Germany it's possible to use the lowest common denominator. This can easily be calculated by looking at the smallest difference between two songs in the charts. In Italy for example the lowest common denomintor is right now somewhere between 0.0033 and 0.0034, which means that the #1 sold 300 to 303 copies in the last 24 hours and MR sold 194 or 195 copies in that same timeframe (300*0.6453). This only works for countries where the amount of copies sold is low. In the US you could have a lowest common denominator of somewhere between 0.00005 to 0.00015 which gives 7k to 20k copies sold (so not very accurate or useful).

[FRANZGA 13,920]

2 minutes ago, Luc said:

the number (e.g. 0.660) is always from the past 24 hours. A boost from one update to the next always means that the song did better in relation to the #1 in sales.

For example MR sold 20 copies over the course of two hours on the beginning of a day, and the #1 sold 50. The next 22 hours they sell 240 and 600 copies respectively. At the end of the 24 hours MR would thus be at 0.4000 (240/600) and the #1 at 1.000. Now imagine the next day MR sells 30 copies instead of 20 in the first 2 hours while the #1 song again sells 50 copies in these 2 hours. MR will thus have sold 240-20+30 copies the last 24 hours while the #1 song is at 600 copies. Thus, MR moves from 0.4000 to 0.4167 (250/600) with the #1 at 1.000.

 

By the way, in every country besides Japan, the US, the UK and Germany it's possible to use the lowest common denominator. This can easily be calculated by looking at the smallest difference between two songs in the charts. In Italy for example the lowest common denomintor is right now somewhere between 0.0033 and 0.0034, which means that the #1 sold 300 to 303 copies in the last 24 hours and MR sold 194 or 195 copies in that same timeframe (300*0.6453). This only works for countries where the amount of copies sold is low. In the US you could have a lowest common denominator of somewhere between 0.00005 to 0.00015 which gives 7k to 20k copies sold (so not very accurate or useful).

i've been leaning with this theory but I am really not that sure.. so big thanks for your info..

[viniferrett 16,684]

its good her to stick with apple music, they are getting bigger and bigger now 

but rn would be good a spotify deal 

[FRANZGA 13,920]

MR will thus have sold 240-20+30 copies the last 24 hours while the #1 song is at 600 copies. Thus, MR moves from 0.4000 to 0.4167 (250/600) with the #1 at 1.000.

 

don't get this tho, my theory is after 24hrs, the ratio to the number1 song will start again from 0 or the first 2hrs.. but then again I don't have sources.. 

I don't get the subtract and add of the previous and new first 2hours sales.. and why is number song1 at 600 untouched???

[Claudio Campi 220]

MR #3 in Italy  and it passed a huge viral hit, which is also discounted.
Now Gagz give me those 3 dates, I'm tired of tickets selling out in like 3 minutes, it's always such a hassle to buy them here. However I don't think she'll ever do San Siro Stadium, Italy is an insanely local market and few foreign acts manage to land such a huge venue. Well Beyoncé and Rihanna both performed there despite not selling much more albums than Gaga, but we all know they have a way bigger appeal on the general public. Plus, I'm not a big fan of stadiums so I'd rather she do multiples dates in an arena. 

[Karl 3,433]

1 hour ago, JPM said:

If MR doesn't take off or they pull the plug there is not a single chance Gaga will recover ever again commercially. Im very surprised Radio 2 playlisted her. She hasn't had a hit since Applause. 

I'm actually worried that Radio 2 play listed her.. That's the station where artists go to die that Radio 1 think are too old to play and all the mums and grandmas bop to

[Gypsy Life 118,907]

@FRANZGA itunes isn't only a 24 hours rolling chart. They basically have hourly, daily, weekly, etc charts, then they add a certain weight to each one of them to come up with the chart we have now.

[Gypsy Life 118,907]

#4 (-1) Italy 

[FRANZGA 13,920]

4 minutes ago, Gypsy Life said:

@FRANZGA itunes isn't only a 24 hours rolling chart. They basically have hourly, daily, weekly, etc charts, then they add a certain weight to each one of them to come up with the chart we have now.

thanks for educating me..