Oscar 1,031 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Although Joanne delivered, I personally think she had a better philosophy about music during the ARTPOP era. Creativity was the foreground of her art now she's trying to hard to be "technically good" (real instruments, outdated genre styles) perhaps to prove that she knows what good music. A song can be created by computers and still be good too. She can use real instruments and not be basic too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I agree, plus ARTPOP was a better album Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpookyKid 15,153 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 OR she simply approached this album's production different? Life has a hopeful undertone |-/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 ARTPOP and Joanne are good in their own ways. Unfortunately, she was trashed for excess last era so it makes sense for her to go a different direction. And, based on her recent facebook statement, she's still about music not the bling Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 1,031 Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, Born To Slay said: I agree, plus ARTPOP was a better album Music wise I like Joanne more but ARTPOP so far was a more creative era Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo cupcakke 4,781 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I mean, she's been performing ARTPOP, the act of putting art back into pop (not the album), since The Fame; ARTPOP, the album, was just her attempting to showcase her abilities to a new extreme which mainstream wouldn't let her before when she was just some girl from New York who everyone thought was Rihanna for a while As for her being more technical this era, I feel she's just trying to showcase her abilities in spite of her past. Tbh, Joanne is Aura as an album, in a sense. As for her trying to be technical to prove she knows what good music is, I feel that statement about Gaga is very subjective, as well as the notion that there is such a thing as "good music" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Gaga 22,948 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 FINALLY. I stan 2013Ga and PhilosophyGa so ****ing hard. And it makes me sad how she lost that part of her after the huge backlash. She was criticized so much for trying to bring her art to life, it's so frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterPaws 2,739 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 8 minutes ago, Born To Slay said: I agree, plus ARTPOP was a better album How dare thee EDIT: Love ARTPOP by the way, but still my "least favorite" album (I stan for AP). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 117,788 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I think LM became close minded to a different kind of music and creativity. A blue line is something very basic but a blue line is still an art. With ARTPOP Gaga tried to bring the art, especially the historic art like Venus into the music and to the hearts of the young people, something that many of you complained about and called her "an art teacher", right now she wants to bring the live instruments in pop into the knowledge of the young people that mostly lived with a computer sound pop music... So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Rose 1,475 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I liked her over-the-top, yet sincere, BTW approach. AP could have used a bit more.. focus? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuri 21,636 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 ARTPOP was way less meaningful than Joanne. And I'd say she likes Joanne better than ARTPOP, since it seems like she wasn't forced to do things that she didn't want to like in ARTPOP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 1,031 Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 9 minutes ago, River said: I think LM became close minded to a different kind of music and creativity. A blue line is something very basic but a blue line is still an art. With ARTPOP Gaga tried to bring the art, especially the historic art like Venus into the music and to the hearts of the young people, something that many of you complained about and called her "an art teacher", right now she wants to bring the live instruments in pop into the knowledge of the young people that mostly lived with a computer sound pop music... Its not the real instruments that's the problem, its the fact that she's not moving forward like she did during the fame era or attempted during the ARTPOP era. A yo isn't going to make country relevant, million reasons is a good song but its basic. I will give her credit on perfect illusion but was a bit disappointing that there weren't more songs that kept you thinking "where is this gonna go" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 1,031 Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Misaki said: ARTPOP was way less meaningful than Joanne. And I'd say she likes Joanne better than ARTPOP, since it seems like she wasn't forced to do things that she didn't want to like in ARTPOP. Well of course. Joanne is the better album but its more of ARTPOP philosophy that i like over Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 117,788 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, Oscar said: Its not the real instruments that's the problem, its the fact that she's not moving forward like she did during the fame era or attempted during the ARTPOP era. A yo isn't going to make country relevant, million reasons is a good song but its basic. I will give her credit on perfect illusion but was a bit disappointing that there weren't more songs that kept you thinking "where is this gonna go" Her purpose is not to make country relevant.. Joanne is a statement and a philosophy to the music industry, to the autotune computer sound hits factory that the music has became.. she's trying to make an impact and to make a change again.. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 1,031 Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 1 minute ago, River said: Her purpose is not to make country relevant.. Joanne is a statement and a philosophy to the music industry, to the autotune computer sound hits factory that the music has became.. she's trying to make an impact and to make a change again.. So why not do something new with her instruments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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