Is Gaga unappreciative of the role of business in the art industry?

[Phoebe 158]

Gaga, her brand, is a business. As much as she wants to fight that idea that she's just "here to make money" for her record label, it's just something that she has to accept. Music is a business. It's as simple as that. You can be creative and successful. It's something Gaga herself experienced.

She just got so overworked and pushed to the edge that I think she kind of hates the business side of it. She just lost the balance she used to have. 

[Ryl 148]

6 minutes ago, M Monstre said:

Art is subjective. Creativity is subjective. All of the things that make up art are subjective and overall revolve around the creativity of the artist. The business aspect ruins that to some extent. I completely understand and agree with what Gaga has said in the past about how business can stifle a musician's creativity.

Let's also remember, art is made so that the artist can enjoy their art. They love art because they love to make art. And, when I say "artist", I'm talking about the musician, the poet, the painter, the sculptor, etc. etc. Art isn't and shouldn't be made to please somebody, in my opinion. Then again, like I said, art is subjective, and it's completely reliant on the artist, so if the artist believes they need to create art to please and garner more people, then that's on them; I just don't agree with that sentiment.

The reason why Gaga became as big as she was was because of her art and creativity. Yes, there were people who were similar to her in the past; however, she herself has revolutionized the music industry and popular culture. 

 

Art in show business is created to please the masses. There are TONS of underground artists who are in full control of what they do, what they release, what and how they perform. 

When you have record labels involved and the point of your contract is to sell albums, you better start listening to the business aspect of things. Nobody made you sign a record deal or forced you in the spotlight. You chose to, so you better start doing it right

[JustAnotherDay 8,402]

3 minutes ago, Katie14 said:

Im not talking about promotion though. Im talking about the influence the business side has in the creation of her art. 

the same still applies, she really doesn't care about the business and just makes what she wants

 

3 minutes ago, MonsterMum said:

So it was her team performing MR at the AMAs, SMAPxSMAP, Royal Variety Show, Happy Hour, SNL, Carpool Karaoke and X Factor (not sure if I remembered them all)?

I mean her team schedules promo and she goes along with it

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

Not all artistic ideas can be monetized by the label. This is present in any form of art, not just music.

[MonsterMum 2,532]

Just now, NickARTPOP said:

the same still applies, she really doesn't care about the business and just makes what she wants

 

I mean her team schedules promo and she goes along with it

From what I gathered she is allowed to do her own promo as in, do or not do stuff if she does not want to do it. So I'm not sure it's going along rather than really want to do it. 

[Edonis 28,950]

19 minutes ago, oliphanty said:

I think her biggest problem is she's pretty talentless at everything but singing, writing and performing but doesn't have the self awareness to see it.

This is very untrue. Outside of her music ventures she does have a pretty successful role as an activist etc. This is kind of ignorant. 

OT: every Indutry relies on business and unfortunately business can often impede on the creative process. For example, as a researcher, it's often hard to get ideas across to business professionals without breaking things down significantly. That's a time consuming process and even then it's 50-50 in terms of the message being clear. I assume it's similar in music. 

[Phoebe 158]

7 minutes ago, NickARTPOP said:

I think she just doesn't care, she very much just seems to create work that she enjoys and leaves it to her team to promote it. 

I do agree that she makes art that she enjoys, but I do think she has a lot of say about promotion. How, when, how often will she promote. I think she doesn't want to get overworked again. If it was only up to her team she'd probably be promoting more than she has in my opinion (not saying she hasn't done promotion, but something crazy like BTW promo).

[REALITY 76,661]

4 minutes ago, Ryl said:

Art in show business is created to please the masses. There are TONS of underground artists who are in full control of what they do, what they release, what and how they perform. 

When you have record labels involved and the point of your contract is to sell albums, you better start listening to the business aspect of things. Nobody made you sign a record deal or forced you in the spotlight. You chose to, so you better start doing it right

I'm talking about art in the pure sense of the word. Art is to please the artist, the influence of business and the want to please the masses comes with the business. That's reality, but what I'm saying is that that is not necessarily right.

I believe art, in any forms should first and foremost please the artist, then if wanted, please the people. Gaga believes in that same concept. What you said is correct, but I'm talking about art in it's pure form. 

[monketsharona 81,260]

8 minutes ago, Phoebe said:

Gaga, her brand, is a business. As much as she wants to fight that idea that she's just "here to make money" for her record label, it's just something that she has to accept. Music is a business. It's as simple as that. You can be creative and successful. It's something Gaga herself experienced.

She just got so overworked and pushed to the edge that I think she kind of hates the business side of it. She just lost the balance she used to have. 

Totally agree with this !

[Katie14 4,828]

10 minutes ago, Ryl said:

Art in show business is created to please the masses. There are TONS of underground artists who are in full control of what they do, what they release, what and how they perform. 

When you have record labels involved and the point of your contract is to sell albums, you better start listening to the business aspect of things. Nobody made you sign a record deal or forced you in the spotlight. You chose to, so you better start doing it right

And there are people who work with/for her who are dependent on her work appealing to the masses in order for them to get a salary. I see how this is painful for her though. She wants the production value and the reach that a label provides her but she also doesn't want to have to compromise her artistry. Its nearly impossible to have it both ways. 

[Ryl 148]

1 minute ago, Katie14 said:

And there are people who work with/for her who are dependent on her work appealing to the masses in order for them to get a salary. I see how this is painful for her though. She wants the production value and the reach that a label provides her but she also doesn't want to have to compromise her artistry. Its nearly impossible to have it both ways. 

Well she can't have her cake and eat it too so she better smarten up

[Jinzo 9,639]

7 minutes ago, Phoebe said:

I do agree that she makes art that she enjoys, but I do think she has a lot of say about promotion. How, when, how often will she promote. I think she doesn't want to get overworked again. If it was only up to her team she'd probably be promoting more than she has in my opinion (not saying she hasn't done promotion, but something crazy like BTW promo).

she gives jobs to many many people, and that's a beautiful gift to have the opportunity to improve the lives of many, sometimes i don't get why she dislikes so much the aspect of business besides the fact she feels used and exploited and i respect that, but at the end i really want her to be happy 

[Supersonic 49,376]

I do feel that Gaga does not like the business side of the music industry because of what has happened to her, it's a feeling I can relate to.

If I was in Gaga's position, I would probably handle business things similarly or hire a professional that I trust. It's the nature and business of money that nobody has actual integrity or a backbone, so it's hard to keep the best of both worlds around when your profession requires you to have a backbone or you're just a good person in general.

[Katie14 4,828]

7 minutes ago, M Monstre said:

I'm talking about art in the pure sense of the word. Art is to please the artist, the influence of business and the want to please the masses comes with the business. That's reality, but what I'm saying is that that is not necessarily right.

I believe art, in any forms should first and foremost please the artist, then if wanted, please the people. Gaga believes in that same concept. What you said is correct, but I'm talking about art in it's pure form. 

I do think Gaga agrees with this sentiment as well but Gaga also wants to have a voice in the world. She wants to influence people. Now more than ever she wants to use her platform to raise awareness of social issues and help people. She won't be happy if she just creates art the pleases herself. 

[Economy 49,795]

35 minutes ago, oliphanty said:

I think her biggest problem is she's pretty talentless at everything but singing, writing and performing but doesn't have the self awareness to see it.

I agree 100%. Good voice and good performer but theres more involved in delivering well and she does a bad job with the rest

 

The team she had before helped her do better. Now her work quality other than the music is live performances is meh. Especially in music video production