Ohio bans abortion after 1 month and a half

[DrewStevens 5,249]

1 hour ago, PaperIz said:

But that's really dumb though. If someone is pregnant, they're going to have a baby. Yes things happen like miscarriages, but it's still going to become a baby. A human life. 

But it's not a baby and it's not a human.

It's ok if you believe that abortion is not ok but it's not murder because it's not a person.

[Edonis 28,974]

13 minutes ago, DrewStevens said:

But it's not a baby and it's not a human.

It's ok if you believe that abortion is not ok but it's not murder because it's not a person.

I think what should be highlighted in this case is that the rate of spontaneous abortions prior to week 12 are exceptionally high; any minor change to the internal environment of the mother will cause the system to shut down and result in a spontaneous abortion. It's actually quite common for a woman to experience implantation and have a developing embryo form and eventually abort without the mother ever knowing. This can happen multiple times throughout a woman's life, which leads to me saying that the argument of "It will become a child, etc. is moot". You don't know if that embryo is going to fully develop into a fetus, so there's no actual way to accurately say it's murder or whatnot because the embryo is not viable ever outside of the mother's internal environment. Thus, banning abortions prior to the minimum period of the second trimester is downright ridiculous. The fetal heartbeat at 6 weeks isn't even a fetal haeartbeat but rather direct blood flow from the mother's circulatory system into a structure that could become the fetus' Heart should it make it through that phase of development. 

Sorry about the essay by the way 😓

[ShockPop 7,747]

Anyone that is pro life is uneducated and ignorant. That's just a plain fact.

Everyone looks at it like "have the baby! Don't take a life!" ok. What about in 5 years when the following is likely:

1. Mother abuses unwanted child

2. Mother kills unwanted child

3. Child ends up in orphanage

4. As a teenager, unwanted, becomes suicidal

5. mentally confused, child that knows it's unwanted and goes on to abuse others.

When a woman is forced to have a baby, she doesn't magically accept it and want to be a mother. It's state forced abuse of women.

[Letmelivemylife 8,715]

5 hours ago, PaperIz said:

Whether or not it is currently a baby in that form isn't the issue, the issue is that it will become one. I think that the baby deserves a chance at life even if you don't want to call it a baby yet. 

Not everyone who gets pregnant on accident is reckless, that wasn't the point. The point is saying anyone who is Reckless shouldn't punish their future child for their mistakes. I am pro-choice, but I wish more people would chose life. I can't force them to and I shouldn't be able too. I have sympathy for anyone who gets pregnant and if they can't handle it, I understand. I still want the babies to have a chance at life as well though. 

There's a song called "brick" by Ben folds five about abortion and I honestly break down every time I hear it. After I had mine, it felt like somebody had ripped my heart out. It felt like I was suffocating and couldn't breathe. I get highly defensive whenever people say "you took the easy way out". Oh yeah like getting my child suctioned out of my body is such an easy choice. We're not ****ing picking between cherrios and cornflakes at the ****ing grocery store. Mine was the result of rape and yet I spent so many nights awake trying to find a better way. I loved that baby. That was my baby. The guilt almost drove me to suicide multiple times. I remember afterwards, I couldn't find the energy to get out of bed to shower or make myself a meal. I just spent all of my time curled up in the fetal position in bed. My grandma eventually caught on and I'll never ever ever forget the look of pure disappointment on her face

[Lona Delery 7,227]

I will never understand how anyone could be against aboritons  
The embryos that are getting aborted do not even know they exist. They do not notice that they get aborted. They never knew they were going to live. They do not have a conscience.

Let a woman take the decision she wants to. Abortion is a hard choice, so taking it over something else means the other option was only worse. 

[GGDisbetter 2,187]

9 hours ago, LePetitMonstr said:

I think both sides of wrong. Liberals focus on abortion while conservatives focus on anti-abortion. I mean, shouldn't we be focusing on free birth control so women don't need to resort to an abortion? Oh wait, conservatives hate that too. 

THIS 

[Sid 6,755]

34 minutes ago, Lona Delery said:

I will never understand how anyone could be against aboritons  
The embryos that are getting aborted do not even know they exist. They do not notice that they get aborted. They never knew they were going to live. They do not have a conscience.

Let a woman take the decision she wants to. Abortion is a hard choice, so taking it over something else means the other option was only worse. 

This. Other species of animals eat their own young and we're having a massive debate on whether or not women should be allowed to medically sustain themselves if it harms a fetus. Quite ridiculous tbh 

[PopBitch 1,218]

7 hours ago, PartySick said:

I find this so stupid. Like, if the mother dies the child will also die. You basically save one life and lose one or lose both, there is no other option in those awful situations

 

That's what's ironic about this though. These same people that are so against abortion are also against the very things that saw abortion rates fall drastically in the last few decades. Contraception, sex education, as well as Planned Parenthood that offers both of those services and more.

It's ludicrous. They raised their kids to be tight lipped about sex and told them the only way is to wait until you're married. That's exactly why their teenage pregnancy, STD, and abortion rates were so much higher than our generation's

And one more thing, someone tell them that outlawing abortion doesn't stop abortions from happening. It just stops safe abortions.

Spot on.

[PaperIz 7,354]

3 hours ago, Letmelivemylife said:

There's a song called "brick" by Ben folds five about abortion and I honestly break down every time I hear it. After I had mine, it felt like somebody had ripped my heart out. It felt like I was suffocating and couldn't breathe. I get highly defensive whenever people say "you took the easy way out". Oh yeah like getting my child suctioned out of my body is such an easy choice. We're not ****ing picking between cherrios and cornflakes at the ****ing grocery store. Mine was the result of rape and yet I spent so many nights awake trying to find a better way. I loved that baby. That was my baby. The guilt almost drove me to suicide multiple times. I remember afterwards, I couldn't find the energy to get out of bed to shower or make myself a meal. I just spent all of my time curled up in the fetal position in bed. My grandma eventually caught on and I'll never ever ever forget the look of pure disappointment on her face

And that's why I'm pro-choice. I'm very sorry  

[PaperIz 7,354]

7 hours ago, DrewStevens said:

But it's not a baby and it's not a human.

It's ok if you believe that abortion is not ok but it's not murder because it's not a person.

But it WILL become one. You can't deny that. That is what I'm talking about. You can call it whatever you want, but it WILL BECOME A BABY. And it deserves to become that baby.

[Reginald 13,841]

The fact that this is still an issue is so aggravating. If a woman really wants or needs an abortion, she's going to get one, either the safe way or a dangerous way, period. 

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Women are going to have abortions whether it's legal or not. So we might as well give them a safe and professional environment to do it in.

Although, I do believe some restrictions should apply. 

[Lona Delery 7,227]

18 minutes ago, PaperIz said:

But it WILL become one. You can't deny that. That is what I'm talking about. You can call it whatever you want, but it WILL BECOME A BABY. And it deserves to become that baby.

that's stupid. According to this logic, you were no longer allowed to masturbate since all of the wasted sperm had the opportunity to become a baby.

[Rifek 51,753]

8 hours ago, DrewStevens said:

But it's not a baby and it's not a human.

It's ok if you believe that abortion is not ok but it's not murder because it's not a person.

 

24 minutes ago, Lona Delery said:

that's stupid. According to this logic, you were no longer allowed to masturbate since all of the wasted sperm had the opportunity to become a baby.

But if there is an embryo it is clear it's going to become a human child. Not a dog, not a plant. HUMAN!

So you can't deny that embryo = future human being...

[Lona Delery 7,227]

Just now, Kefir said:

 

But if there is an embryo it is clear it's going to become a human child. Not a dog, not a plant. HUMAN!

So you can't deny that embryo = future human being...

human sperm is also gonna guarantee you that i'd grow into a human and not into a dog or a plant.
And as I already stated, an embryo is as much aware of its existence as is all the sperm in my balls right now. It wouldn't lose anything.