TommyJade 29 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 @salad, Thank you for your explanation as I know its going to help others understand just how... yucky it can be. @Katie14 There is different types of dissociation, annoyingly. And it impacts on people differently depending on any other mental health issues going on. When I've had the type of dissociation you described above.. sometimes detaching doesn't always mean you are calm. Some people get violent when triggered and dissociate and then have very little recollection of it. I know I'd get in arguments with my mum and wake up the next day feeling similar to what I assume is hungover, as I don't drink. I have a hazy recollection of what happened but it felt like it happened to a different person. Personally the only times I get scared is when I feel disconnected from reality in some types of dissociation. Talking around 2009. The main reason I was scared was it felt like I was going nuts. I didn't understand it and it was complete loss of control. Once I learned about it I'd just get really annoyed, knowing I'd have to cut a trip into town short because I was feeling disorientated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
salad 62 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 43 minutes ago, Katie14 said: Wow. That sounds extremely intense. Thank you for sharing. I am kind of confused though because I though dissociation was a more relaxed state that gets triggered from being over stimulated or reminded of a traumatizing event. Also, were you scared during the dissociation period? ive been triggered by both those things but it's not relaxing. i've never experienced dissociation as a sort of escape where it might relax me but maybe some people do. and it is pretty scary for me while it's happening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkSpectre0 547 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 6 hours ago, Judas Oyster said: Ugh, but I don't want medication tbh. It feels wrong. I understand why people take it but I wish there was a way without it. Medication isn't for everyone. They tried meds for 7 years with me and none helped. They would for a bit and then they'd stop and then They'd switch them up and I'd have a bad reaction ugh. With healing from trauma the key thing is to ensure meds aren't the main form of treatment. You can't heal trauma with medication and if you're solely prescribed meds all it will do is numb you which will be detrimental in the treatment of trauma where you actually need help learning to feel safe in your body without numbing. Meds are to be used in trauma treatment to help alongside the main treatment which should be talk therapy. Edit: I should add I mean beware of doctors who will put you on meds and consider you sorted. Don't ever feel bad for going back and saying 'you know these have helped a bit but they haven't actually solved the problem'. Took me three yrs of saying it till someone's listened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyJade 29 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 12 minutes ago, SilkSpectre0 said: Medication isn't for everyone. They tried meds for 7 years with me and none helped. They would for a bit and then they'd stop and then They'd switch them up and I'd have a bad reaction ugh. With healing from trauma the key thing is to ensure meds aren't the main form of treatment. You can't heal trauma with medication and if you're solely prescribed meds all it will do is numb you which will be detrimental in the treatment of trauma where you actually need help learning to feel safe in your body without numbing. Meds are to be used in trauma treatment to help alongside the main treatment which should be talk therapy. Edit: I should add I mean beware of doctors who will put you on meds and consider you sorted. Don't ever feel bad for going back and saying 'you know these have helped a bit but they haven't actually solved the problem'. Took me three yrs of saying it till someone's listened. 100% agree. For me, I'm not well enough to do any treatment without the medication. I couldn't remember anything I'd talked about or agreed to do, nor had enough cognitive function to do anything. Even on the current meds which are working brilliantly I had crappy side effects for that first month. It's definitely a minefield at times! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaanBTW 5,244 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Beautiful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkSpectre0 547 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 12 hours ago, TommyJade said: 100% agree. For me, I'm not well enough to do any treatment without the medication. I couldn't remember anything I'd talked about or agreed to do, nor had enough cognitive function to do anything. Even on the current meds which are working brilliantly I had crappy side effects for that first month. It's definitely a minefield at times! Same. I'd definitely say the meds probably saved my life when I was in my worst times. They helped me get to a point where I was strong enough to start to work on healing my trauma. It would have been impossible to that in the state I was in if I hadn't been prescribed something. It really is a minefield! I think that it being so different for everyone makes it harder on doctors to find the right solution right away. And it can be tough to go back and ask for more help because it was already so hard to ask for help the first time. Im so proud of her for starting a conversation about this issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetiteMonstre 69 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 She's so beautiful and strong <3 I love her so much, she's using her platform to help so many people and showing this vulnerability is such a powerful act for so many people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Very interesting articulation of her condition. Blank stares... . Thanks for the breakdown, I had analyzed it as momentarily displacement to deal with stage fright. which was partially right since she seems to be dealing with multiple stress factors. It's good to see she has professional help. Not everyone can admit to having this kind of a problem , much less get help. Drugs only make it worse. I wonder if her management at the time of BTW ignoring her condition and request for help led to their parting.? like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 18 minutes ago, Woolfsmck said: Very interesting articulation of her condition. Blank stares... . Thanks for the breakdown, I had analyzed it as momentarily displacement to deal with stage fright. which was partially right since she seems to be dealing with multiple stress factors. It's good to see she has professional help. Not everyone can admit to having this kind of a problem , much less get help. Drugs only make it worse. I wonder if her management at the time of BTW ignoring her condition and request for help led to their parting.? Definitely. She talks specifically about this in the interview she did in Italy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 14 minutes ago, Katie14 said: Definitely. She talks specifically about this in the interview she did in Italy. Thanks, I don't get every bit of everything Gaga says. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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