PlasticHo 700 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 22 minutes ago, lilmonster93 said: First of all the racism claims are just complete ignorance. Again, it has nothing to do with her being black. Tons of black people think's overrated, including myself. Everyone praises Frank Ocean and Kendrick Lamar when they get nominated. A lot people loved Starboy by The Weeknd and hope it gets nominated in 2018. And people here seem to like Rihanna more than Beyonce. So y'all can just shut that down. Second, I guess all little monsters have to have the same music taste and if we dislike/hate something that's popular/praised, it must mean we are jealous. Ok no that's wrong again. Majority of opinions on Beyonce have come from us checking out her work, music, and performances and evaluating it. I've listened BEYONCE and Lemonade, liked 4 tracks off the former and 7 tracks off the latter and it's even less with her older albums; hence why I think she's overrated. Lemonade is a really good album and the 1st Beyonce album I'd be willing to buy; but is it the best album of year? No. Does it deserve AOTY? No. I'm with you. Lemonade is a great album, but Adele's success with 25 set records unlikely to be beaten for many years, if ever. If Adele and Beyoncé had sold about the same, I believe you could argue more towards the production value etc of Lemonade and give it the win. However, I think the input of that artist, their talent, their songwriting and production input, and also the commercial success should all be big factors for Album of the Year. Then again, I'm no expert on the categories and how they're defined/judged. We will see. I just find it silly to think that (possibly) the largest debut week an album has ever had in history didn't win album of the year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ryan 1,468 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Does this need a thread? Because of it's success, her praise, and people think she's a threat towards Gaga. I come to realize maybe this means she's doing somewhat right the girl promotes, gives visual albums, and has been hungry since the 90s. Godyonce'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nini mini boss 1,444 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 19 hours ago, GANJA said: I just don't get the hate she gets from this fanbase. I mean, she just released one of the most important and relevant pop album in the last decade, and it seems like most people here hate it. Is it jealousy? I'm not much of a pophead, but that album will be a classic, and it's better than anything Gaga has released(No shade to Gaga, I love her). Had it been Gaga who released that album, you would be praising it to heaven. Also, all the criticism comes with no arguments, it's just people calling it "trash" with nothing to back it up. So, let me ask you: why is it trash? Lol 🐺🌒✨ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 19 hours ago, iFameMonzter said: because none of the songs speak to me nor have some certain melody that would make me want to listen over and over again its all just like over the place for me You must be ten. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Slayne 4,154 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Because she's overrated and so is Lemonade... I bop to Daddy Lessons ft. Dixie Chicks and Sorry tho Close this thread now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir 17,022 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 She's Gaga's biggest competition in terms of talent, brand, success, performance and professionalism and fans especially can't stand that. Jeez the pair have collaborated and are good terms and people still find ways to nit-pick and compare. Gaga is my all time favourite however I still love Bey and she is the only current girl who could give Gaga a run for her money. Disclaimer: I'm going to go all Marxist/Feminist on ya'll here so scroll if you hate this stuff... but sadly, people love to pit people against one another, especially women, which is only fuelled by the patriarchal control over society, which we're accustomed to. Mass media, as an agent of the government and therefore ruling class ideology, manipulates the masses, using pop culture and catty comparisons of women to distract us from real issues: the mass exploitation and inequality issues of the Western world, which have manifested within capitalism. Also, people still haven't somehow come to the grips with the notion that two successful women can co-exist and like another, without focusing on how one of the two women's success has overshadowed the other. This is toxic to me. How many male counterparts' do we see this happen to? None. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacify Him 9,073 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Because she pays the media to write so many good things about her nonstop I’m getting on your nerves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uo111 5,254 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Calls Lemonade one of the most important pop albums in the last decade. Asks why Beyonce is "hated." Black lives matter was getting more exposure before Beyonce used it to make herself more famous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Mayo 377 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I don't prefer it musically. Also she could release literally anything and still receive praise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robo Ga 15,297 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 20 hours ago, GANJA said: So what if there are 20 producers and 20 writers? What matters is the music, and it speaks for itself. Amen. TBH Gaga should have a bigger team working on her music instead of trying to do everything herself. She hasn't even released her second video 4 months in, after an initial single flop and half assed video. Beyonce STARTS her eras WITH A MOVIE 🤖⚡️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 49,431 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 No idea why cuz i havent listned to the album lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 49,431 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, Robo Ga said: Amen. TBH Gaga should have a bigger team working on her music instead of trying to do everything herself. She hasn't even released her second video 4 months in, after an initial single flop and half assed video. Beyonce STARTS her eras WITH A MOVIE This! Gaga is so unexiting now the way she handles stuff Theres nothing wrong with having help. If trying to do everything urself means your next music video is 2 months late, ur biting off more than you can chew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robo Ga 15,297 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 15 minutes ago, Economy said: This! Gaga is so unexiting now the way she handles stuff Theres nothing wrong with having help. If trying to do everything urself means your next music video is 2 months late, ur biting off more than you can chew Exactly. She had a bigger team helping her with TF, TFM & BTW and they were MUCH better eras than ARTPOP / Joanne. I wish she would just realize this. I wonder what she thinks when she watches Beyonce, Bruno, The Weeknd, etc... all of these artists have extreme success around her and producing huge amounts of content, and she's so far behind them when she used to lead the pack. Drives me crazy 🤖⚡️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcina Dimitrescu 1,156 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Simple Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Palutena 3,147 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I think of Beyoncé the way I think of banana bread; fine, but nothing to make a fuss about... Adoremus in caelum, Palutena. Dea luminis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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