REALITY 76,757 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 10 hours ago, Bebe said: With the sort of person Kanye is though it's like okay he is going to have a meltdown, he is going to have some rant, he is going to interrupt someone on stage, he is going to have an egomaniac moment and compare himself with Walt Disney and Steve Jobs. What makes him a great artist doesn't necessarily translate into making him a great person. Give the people their money back, but know that the artist you are a fan of is the artist they are because their mind works differently from most people. He is a great artist because he is an egomaniac who is constantly looking to break the rules, is highly opinionated and is a little disconnected from reality. That still doesn't excuse the fact that he just straight up left the show. Like, I'm sure his fans and people know that he's just not a "normal" person, or doesn't think/express like a "normal" person, but I don't care who you are, if you walk about after 3 songs, it's still rude and disrespectful. You're an artist, people came here for you. 𝔊𝔬𝔬𝔡𝔟𝔶𝔢, ℑ'𝔩𝔩 𝔰𝔢𝔢 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔦𝔫 𝔪𝔶 𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔪𝔰 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Monster 1,561 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I'm sorry but **** Kanye. Ik he's talented and **** but wtf? People pay good money for this filthy rich asshole and he makes them wait 2 hours then leaves after 3 songs? I'm sorry idc how talented he is he is a peice of **** sorry that's rude but this is SO irritating to read 😡😡😡 Mikey McCampbell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 He's so annoying. Talk about pretentious he is all kinds of pretentious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juicyjuicy 1,985 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Sorry but like, what is it about his music or artistry that people like and keep overhyping? I really don't see it. There is not one thing I like about him. What talent? Show me the receipts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donutellha 13,819 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 yoye Walk down the runway but don't puke, it's okay. You just had 10 donuts today. Without frosting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battle 4 Ur Life 6,716 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I can't wait for his upcoming drastic fall. I mean I like him but it's time already. “Fantastic, chic, freak, slay.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDGA 1,260 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 The pressure for staying relevant is strong. I really can't stand that guy. I always ask if his attitude was the reason Gaga canceled the tour she planned with him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,094 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 6 hours ago, M Monstre said: That still doesn't excuse the fact that he just straight up left the show. Like, I'm sure his fans and people know that he's just not a "normal" person, or doesn't think/express like a "normal" person, but I don't care who you are, if you walk about after 3 songs, it's still rude and disrespectful. You're an artist, people came here for you. I know, I said all that didn't I? You purposefully cut out the part of what I wrote when I condemned him in order to argue with a point I'm not making "He shouldn't have walked off stage after 3 songs, that's not cool. People spent a lot of money on tickets, they worked hard and spent their hard earned money on this concert. They deserve a full show or they should get their money back." It's not okay for him to walk out after three songs, he is responsible for his own actions, it's okay to criticise him when he crosses the line. My only point was: "duh, **** like that is going to happen. What makes him a great artist doesn't translate into what makes him a good person. If you want a transgressive, opinionated, braggadocious, unsafe artist - don't be surprised when that artist is also transgressive, opinionated and unsafe outside of their work." You have to be prepared for that with Kanye. There are going to be times when he rants about something stupid (Like how he would have voted Trump and how POC should stop complaining about racism) and your eyes are going to be looking at your brain. There are going to be times when he gets on stage and interrupts an award show to tell someone they don't deserve the award that have won and your hand will be to your face. It doesn't excuse those actions, but if you want an unsafe, controversial, opinionated transgressive artist you have to be willing to take those personality flaws with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fame Joanne 5,985 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 13 hours ago, JamesFox said: Wasn't he late as well? It's obvious he did this as a publicity stunt but I feel for those people who saved up their money to go watch a 20 minute rant. He started later but therefor ended earlier. Seems fair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 76,757 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 7 minutes ago, Bebe said: I know, I said all that didn't I? You purposefully cut out the part of what I wrote when I condemned him in order to argue with a point I'm not making "He shouldn't have walked off stage after 3 songs, that's not cool. People spent a lot of money on tickets, they worked hard and spent their hard earned money on this concert. They deserve a full show or they should get their money back." It's not okay for him to walk out after three songs, he is responsible for his own actions, it's okay to criticise him when he crosses the line. My only point was: "duh, **** like that is going to happen. What makes him a great artist doesn't translate into what makes him a good person. If you want a transgressive, opinionated, braggadocious, unsafe artist - don't be surprised when that artist is also transgressive, opinionated and unsafe outside of their work." You have to be prepared for that with Kanye. There are going to be times when he rants about something stupid (Like how he would have voted Trump and how POC should stop complaining about racism) and your eyes are going to be looking at your brain. There are going to be times when he gets on stage and interrupts an award show to tell someone they don't deserve the award that have won and you have your hand to your face. It doesn't excuse those actions, but if you want an unsafe, controversial, opinionated transgressive artist you have to be willing to take those personality flaws with it. I left that part out because ultimately your argument is "duh, **** like that is going to happen." You can be a transgressive, opinonated, controversial, unsafe, etc. etc. artist without having to be an a**hole and just walking out. I can respect his opinions, I can respect his work, but to implement that into now just straight up walking out, or something like that, it doesn't make any sense. He, himself, sometimes doesn't know how to differentiate the two. I mean, look at Gaga, she's transgressive, unsafe, and definitely opinionated and controversial. She's not going to just straight up walk out: that's because she's differentiating her artwork and putting on a show for people. I understand that you also don't think it's right, but I can't accept these "personality flaws" if it negatively affects other people. 𝔊𝔬𝔬𝔡𝔟𝔶𝔢, ℑ'𝔩𝔩 𝔰𝔢𝔢 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔦𝔫 𝔪𝔶 𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔪𝔰 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 106,167 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Wtf Kanye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterPaws 2,730 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 5 hours ago, juicyjuicy said: Sorry but like, what is it about his music or artistry that people like and keep overhyping? I really don't see it. There is not one thing I like about him. What talent? Show me the receipts. His music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLuna 12,732 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Am I supposed to be shocked or something? I mean, this is Kanye West we're talking about here. Dude has even less respect for his fans than Bieber Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUO YI 6,089 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 16 hours ago, Batwings said: And people drag Madonna for being 2 hours late. At least hunty lip-syncs for 2 hours afterwards. The unnecessary shade of your comment Ot: meh.... Poor people The night sky tells all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,094 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, M Monstre said: I left that part out because ultimately your argument is "duh, **** like that is going to happen." You can be a transgressive, opinonated, controversial, unsafe, etc. etc. artist without having to be an asshole and just walking out. I can respect his opinions, I can respect his work, but to implement that into now just straight up walking out, or something like that, it doesn't make any sense. He, himself, sometimes doesn't know how to differentiate the two. I mean, look at Gaga, she's transgressive, unsafe, and definitely opinionated and controversial. She's not going to just straight up walk out: that's because she's differentiating her artwork and putting on a show for people. I understand that you also don't think it's right, but I can't accept these "personality flaws" if it negatively affects other people. I'm telling you - you are arguing against a point I'm not making. I agree with what you are writing "I left that part out because ultimately your argument is "duh, **** like that is going to happen."" I mean.. that's not what you were arguing against previously, you just added that in because that's what I wrote in my reply. You're still not really addressing what my point is. "You can be a transgressive, opinionated, controversial, unsafe, etc. etc. artist without having to be an asshole and just walking out." I don't think Kanye could be the artist he is without his personality flaws. He is an opinionated person who says whatever is on his mind - when it comes to creating that lack of inhibition is great, it's what contributes to him being such a great musician, but on a personal level it can lead to him saying some BS that angers people. He has little to no respect for social conventions - that's fantastic in his work where he can push boundaries and make something truly transgressive - it's less great in real life when he goes on these giant rants. He is an ego maniac who is a little manic, when he is working that's great it means he has complete confidence and faith in his work, there is nothing holding him back and he has the courage to experiment and demand exactly what he wants - that's less great in real life when he decides he can just walk off stage after 3 songs. "look at Gaga, she's transgressive, unsafe, and definitely opinionated and controversial." Errr.... Not in the same way. I wouldn't call Gaga transgressive or unsafe in the same way I would call Kanye transgressive and unsafe. They are completely different artist - when it comes down to it though, it's Kanye's personality traits that make him the genius he is artistically. He is the classic enfant terriblé. Of course he shouldn't have been an asshole and walked off stage - There's just no point in being surprised. We all want an unsafe, unpredictable, opinionated artist - sometimes that's going to blow up in your face. Like I've said, he shouldn't off stage that's a **** move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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