HDD: #3 Bruno 110/140k #2 Miranda 135/145k #1 Metallica 260/280k

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43 minutes ago, BrianxRyan said:

Old people and kids buy albums. Damn Metallica! 

 

Older 

 

[StrawberryBlond 14,900]

2 hours ago, DiscoHeaven23 said:

Lolol I'm joking. 

But still not the best. He was the top male for a bit and now Drake and Justin Bieber blowww him out of the water. I think The Weeknd is stealing his thunder 

A very good point. He's being overtaken by the young ones. I mean, Bruno started out old by popstar standards (25) and he's 31 now and he's only on his third album. I always thought his age would be his undoing at some point because the public seem to inevitably cast off singers when they hit 30 with only a few exceptions. Justin overtook Uptown Funk's views and likes, Drake is like the second biggest name right now and indeed, The Weeknd kinda fills the Bruno void with the same kinda schtick in some ways and he actually provides material more frequently and longer albums. I think a lot of other male artists thought "I can do this whole effortlessly cool thing too."

I don't know, Bruno, right from the beginning, struck me as the kind of artist who wasn't going to be around for all that long. He didn't fade away after his second album like I predicted but if his underperformance of a lead single and poor debut numbers show anything it's that he won't be a powerhouse seller from here on out. He also only had 2 hits from his last album 4 years ago, which doesn't bode well for his future singles performance. I mean, male artists can normally get away with releasing a lead single that's a copy of their last big hit but the fact he can't do that successfully despite being such a respected artist and still reasonably new isn't a good sign.

[migamiga 12,102]

Gaga outselling and outstreaming Bruno even though his single outpeaked her's and he's coming off of a 14 week #1 song 

Metallica proving why they're legends. That will be gaga in 30 years 

[migamiga 12,102]

30 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

A very good point. He's being overtaken by the young ones. I mean, Bruno started out old by popstar standards (25) and he's 31 now and he's only on his third album. I always thought his age would be his undoing at some point because the public seem to inevitably cast off singers when they hit 30 with only a few exceptions. Justin overtook Uptown Funk's views and likes, Drake is like the second biggest name right now and indeed, The Weeknd kinda fills the Bruno void with the same kinda schtick in some ways and he actually provides material more frequently and longer albums. I think a lot of other male artists thought "I can do this whole effortlessly cool thing too."

I don't know, Bruno, right from the beginning, struck me as the kind of artist who wasn't going to be around for all that long. He didn't fade away after his second album like I predicted but if his underperformance of a lead single and poor debut numbers show anything it's that he won't be a powerhouse seller from here on out. He also only had 2 hits from his last album 4 years ago, which doesn't bode well for his future singles performance. I mean, male artists can normally get away with releasing a lead single that's a copy of their last big hit but the fact he can't do that successfully despite being such a respected artist and still reasonably new isn't a good sign.

Sort of agree. I feel like age matters less when it comes to male artist (sexist, I know but it's true). Plenty of male artists continue to do well in their 30s- JT is still slaying, drake is in his 30s now- rappers esp can still have succcess regardless of their age

i feel like Bruno's underperformance is similar to ariana with focus/dw. He wasn't really serving up anything new, no manager, and continues with his same 70s pimp aesthetic. After awhile it's just tacky...

 

[StrawberryBlond 14,900]

3 minutes ago, F AM E said:

Sort of agree. I feel like age matters less when it comes to male artist (sexist, I know but it's true). Plenty of male artists continue to do well in their 30s- JT is still slaying, drake is in his 30s now- rappers esp can still have succcess regardless of their age

i feel like Bruno's underperformance is similar to ariana with focus/dw. He wasn't really serving up anything new, no manager, and continues with his same 70s pimp aesthetic. After awhile it's just tacky...

Yes, men can get away with being older, especially in rap. But Bruno is considered pop, even though he's heavily funk/RnB focused. And apart from JT, how many male popstars in their 30's can you name? Until JT, the only one was MJ. Pop is notoriously difficult for anyone to do over the age of 30. If you want to keep being successful at that age, you have to do something new, switch it up. That was precisely how MJ and Madonna kept on getting success despite growing older. Indeed, I thought immediately of Ariana's underperformance with Focus - it was too similar to Problem and the public noticed and weren't having it. I think the same thing is happening with Bruno. Considering that Bruno writes all his own stuff, plays instruments, can sing well and is an artist in his own right, I think we all expected something more than an Uptown Funk rip off for his lead single from his long-awaited new album. And agreed, his aesthetic is getting really tiring. This is yet another single from him where he talks about how amazing he is and how women love him. That's all very well if you're a rapper but it's just off-putting when it comes from someone of any other genre. I think that's something that's always put me off him - he seems so full of himself. An overabundance of his songs are about bragging or about how he's such a ladies man and what a great lover he is. When I Was Your Man was his one big turn-around and that was great but everything else is about these same 2 topics and it just feels so overdone. That in addition to a 4 year break only to return with a 9 track album barely clocking in at half an hour? I don't blame people for not bothering. Xtina takes 4 year breaks as a matter of course but at least when she comes back, she gives you a 20 track album. Seriously, what has Bruno been doing all this time?

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

The title's order placement nnnnnnnnnnnn

[DiscoHeaven23 35,007]

3 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

A very good point. He's being overtaken by the young ones. I mean, Bruno started out old by popstar standards (25) and he's 31 now and he's only on his third album. I always thought his age would be his undoing at some point because the public seem to inevitably cast off singers when they hit 30 with only a few exceptions. Justin overtook Uptown Funk's views and likes, Drake is like the second biggest name right now and indeed, The Weeknd kinda fills the Bruno void with the same kinda schtick in some ways and he actually provides material more frequently and longer albums. I think a lot of other male artists thought "I can do this whole effortlessly cool thing too."

I don't know, Bruno, right from the beginning, struck me as the kind of artist who wasn't going to be around for all that long. He didn't fade away after his second album like I predicted but if his underperformance of a lead single and poor debut numbers show anything it's that he won't be a powerhouse seller from here on out. He also only had 2 hits from his last album 4 years ago, which doesn't bode well for his future singles performance. I mean, male artists can normally get away with releasing a lead single that's a copy of their last big hit but the fact he can't do that successfully despite being such a respected artist and still reasonably new isn't a good sign.

 

yass to all of this. 

 

Bruno's release with The Weeknd is his demise. Very similar to the Katy/Gaga days. To me, The Weeknd is just more exciting and offers something more. With Bruno offering more of the same, its just like ehhh, not gonna spend my coins on him. I bought Starboy the song and didn't buy 24K Magic the song. I think part of Bruno's low sales is that people are saving their coins for The Weeknd next week. 

 

 

 

 

 

[migamiga 12,102]

7 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Yes, men can get away with being older, especially in rap. But Bruno is considered pop, even though he's heavily funk/RnB focused. And apart from JT, how many male popstars in their 30's can you name? Until JT, the only one was MJ. Pop is notoriously difficult for anyone to do over the age of 30. If you want to keep being successful at that age, you have to do something new, switch it up. That was precisely how MJ and Madonna kept on getting success despite growing older. Indeed, I thought immediately of Ariana's underperformance with Focus - it was too similar to Problem and the public noticed and weren't having it. I think the same thing is happening with Bruno. Considering that Bruno writes all his own stuff, plays instruments, can sing well and is an artist in his own right, I think we all expected something more than an Uptown Funk rip off for his lead single from his long-awaited new album. And agreed, his aesthetic is getting really tiring. This is yet another single from him where he talks about how amazing he is and how women love him. That's all very well if you're a rapper but it's just off-putting when it comes from someone of any other genre. I think that's something that's always put me off him - he seems so full of himself. An overabundance of his songs are about bragging or about how he's such a ladies man and what a great lover he is. When I Was Your Man was his one big turn-around and that was great but everything else is about these same 2 topics and it just feels so overdone. That in addition to a 4 year break only to return with a 9 track album barely clocking in at half an hour? I don't blame people for not bothering. Xtina takes 4 year breaks as a matter of course but at least when she comes back, she gives you a 20 track album. Seriously, what has Bruno been doing all this time?

I totally hear what you're saying but I do think/hope age is becoming less of a factor. Here's an article from BB detailing the average age of the artist with #1s http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7510980/hot-100-average-age-number-one

They all lean towards late 20s so a good chunk of artist who have successful hits are in their 30s. Look at Pharrell, Daft Punk, Robin Thicke, Pitbull, Flo Rida who all have made successful pop hits in recent years. Granted, they might not be super successful album wise but their music has remained relevant on radio. And including women there's Pink, Beyonce, Katy, Mariah had her comeback in her 30s, Sia who seems to be peaking at 40 (!)

I definitely understand how younger artists are deemed more relevant (because they're marketed that way) but it's not to say they can't be written off at a young age either. Also I think now that music is so much more accessible, there's a wider range in the age demographics for music consumption. Music sales may be at an all time low but music consumption is up due to streaming, smart phones, internet. Before, once you graduated and got a job you weren't keeping up with music anymore. Nowadays everyone is keeping up because it's everywhere. Even my dad knew about the dive bar tour lol

And yes, the album length is annoying too. 9 songs after 4 years is a slap in the face to fans...

[Psychedelic 1,098]

It was about time for Bruno to Flop.

And it was about time for a true Rock Legend Act to slay. So happy for metallica!  

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Nnn @ Miranda Lambert outselling Bruno Mars.

[thatfoxyfeeling 13,033]

Why isn't the media being negative about Bruno like they would with Gaga? They're terrible numbers for him, that really is a flop.

[StrawberryBlond 14,900]

12 hours ago, F AM E said:

I totally hear what you're saying but I do think/hope age is becoming less of a factor. Here's an article from BB detailing the average age of the artist with #1s http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7510980/hot-100-average-age-number-one

They all lean towards late 20s so a good chunk of artist who have successful hits are in their 30s. Look at Pharrell, Daft Punk, Robin Thicke, Pitbull, Flo Rida who all have made successful pop hits in recent years. Granted, they might not be super successful album wise but their music has remained relevant on radio. And including women there's Pink, Beyonce, Katy, Mariah had her comeback in her 30s, Sia who seems to be peaking at 40 (!)

I definitely understand how younger artists are deemed more relevant (because they're marketed that way) but it's not to say they can't be written off at a young age either. Also I think now that music is so much more accessible, there's a wider range in the age demographics for music consumption. Music sales may be at an all time low but music consumption is up due to streaming, smart phones, internet. Before, once you graduated and got a job you weren't keeping up with music anymore. Nowadays everyone is keeping up because it's everywhere. Even my dad knew about the dive bar tour lol

And yes, the album length is annoying too. 9 songs after 4 years is a slap in the face to fans...

But as you can see from your list, they're almost all men. Men just have a better deal in the industry. They tend to be around longer and have success for longer. And they also make the music that the public wanted to hear, that's why they're popular. You don't see any truly experimental males in the charts. And as for the female names, well, Pink hasn't been around for over 4 years, so we don't know how she's going to be like when she comes back, Mariah hasn't had a hit since 2008 so I don't know why she's included and Sia doesn't have successful albums, although she is a big exception at her age with her successful singles. Katy has only just gone into her 30's and hasn't released an album in this decade of her life yet, so we'll have to wait and see for her.

You make a good point about how music being more accessible means that we no longer have to only listen to the young ones that industry feeds us, though. That's why I'm glad that it takes more than a young, pretty face to sell music these days. It makes a change from what I grew up with. Iggy Azalea actually said she was told by a music industry executive that they could promise to make her a success but it would be a lie because it's not how things work anymore. The people decide who they want to listen to now, they won't be dictated to and the record labels are at the public's mercy.

Glad I'm not the only one that is shocked at the amount of tracks. If Gaga took a 4 year break only to come back with a 9 track album, the meltdowns on this site would be epic. I mean, I wish Joanne could have been longer and she was gone just under 3 years.

8 hours ago, JamesFox said:

Why isn't the media being negative about Bruno like they would with Gaga? They're terrible numbers for him, that really is a flop.

Because he's a man. Men get away with this kinda stuff so much easier than women. Unless the man in question is going through a huge controversy and image problems, low sales are never brought up. Sexism is alive and well.

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@StrawberryBlond i'm in love with you and your arguments. I just had to say it. I really admire you 

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only quality songs on bruno's album IMO: 24k magic, perm, that's what i like. the rest are meh and borderline basic

[AlexanderLevi2 5,849]

I've never really cared for him. His songs get old after a couple listens.

He isn't doing anything new and only his fans care atm.