Gagadonna 10,801 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, tomsches said: Do you sing: [ˈpɜ:fɪkt] or [ˈpɜ:rfikt] [ˈpɜ:fɪkt] I was always taught not to pronounce the [r] sound because it's part of the long [ɜ] sound. It's like 'work', you don't pronounce werk, but wek (with a long [ɜ] sound)... I think... am I wrong? I think it's depend on the area where English is spoken Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calmar 22,055 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, boobtank said: what is happening The OP is (I'm assuming) using the IPA to ask the question, which is appropriate because it makes the question much more distinctive rather than using flimsy natural language spelling methods. It's just that most people don't know how to read it. 4 minutes ago, LoisLilMonster said: Teach me that phonetics that I love [aɫ t̠ʰɜ̃ːn ð̯ə ˈlaːi̯t͡s äːʊ̯ʔ] 俺の勝利は揺るぎない Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHS 4,714 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, Gagadonna said: [ˈpɜ:fɪkt] I was always taught not to pronounce the [r] sound because it's part of the long [ɜ] sound. It's like 'work', you don't pronounce werk, but wek (with a long [ɜ] sound)... I think... am I wrong? I think it's depend on the area where English is spoken I think in the USA they pronounce the 'r' and in some parts of Great Britain they don't (mainly England) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 73,734 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 sometimes par-fect, sometimes puh-fect, sometimes per-fect, pah-fect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsches 17,392 Posted November 12, 2016 Author Share Posted November 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, LoisLilMonster said: Btw, why did you ask it? It's just curiosity. I'm into these things as well I'm interested in phonetics and after all these political meltdowns I wanted to create a none political messy thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy 5,686 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Wait what Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calmar 22,055 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Just now, LoisLilMonster said: I think in the USA they pronounce the 'r' and in some parts of Great Britain they don't (mainly England) Most accents of English, iirc, are non-rhotic, so they would have the (cross-linguistically rare) vowel /ɜ/ as well as more distinguished long vowels, rising diphthongs, etc. Americans like myself use a consonant /ɹ/ ~/ɻ/ instead, especially as a syllabic consonant (along with other sonorants.) 俺の勝利は揺るぎない Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHS 4,714 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, calmar said: The OP is (I'm assuming) using the IPA to ask the question, which is appropriate because it makes the question much more distinctive rather than using flimsy natural language spelling methods. It's just that most people don't know how to read it. [aɫ t̠ʰɜ̃ːn ð̯ə ˈlaːi̯t͡s äːʊ̯ʔ] I'd answer you but I don't know how to write with IPA transcription I'm not so professional tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHS 4,714 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, calmar said: Most accents of English, iirc, are non-rhotic, so they would have the (cross-linguistically rare) vowel /ɜ/ as well as more distinguished long vowels, rising diphthongs, etc. Americans like myself use a consonant /ɹ/ ~/ɻ/ instead, especially as a syllabic consonant (along with other sonorants.) I really look up to you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagadonna 10,801 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 1 minute ago, tomsches said: I'm interested in phonetics and after all these political meltdowns I wanted to create a none political messy thread Watch out... You are never out of drama-thirsty troublemakers' reach on GGD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsches 17,392 Posted November 12, 2016 Author Share Posted November 12, 2016 16 minutes ago, calmar said: And if you're using narrow transcription the /p/ should be aspirated to distinguish it from [p] /b/ <b>. I know but I couldnt find the aspiration symbol and I thought nobody would notice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Per💦💦💦f💦💦ect FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGetHigh 52,683 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Peufect. She sings it as Peufect so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHS 4,714 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, tomsches said: I know but I couldnt find the aspiration symbol and I thought nobody would notice I wouldn't have noticed. You guys know way more than me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsches 17,392 Posted November 12, 2016 Author Share Posted November 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, calmar said: Most accents of English, iirc, are non-rhotic, so they would have the (cross-linguistically rare) vowel /ɜ/ as well as more distinguished long vowels, rising diphthongs, etc. Americans like myself use a consonant /ɹ/ ~/ɻ/ instead, especially as a syllabic consonant (along with other sonorants.) The question is do you as an American have the time to pronounce the r even though you're singing in such a fast rhythm ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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