xoxo cupcakke 4,781 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Just now, Jepsie said: "My veil is protection for the gorgeousness of my face" - Lady Gaga Even Gaga knows the purpose of the hijab This lady is just wearing this religious object for fashion. Which of course, she's free to do. But don't make this into an agenda because it is really offensive For one, Gaga does not know the full purpose of hijab as she is not a Muslim women. There is a difference between a hijab and a burqa, burqas tend to to cover the whole face, not the hijab. Gaga got that wrong and she was in some trouble for that if I recall. Also, how am I making it into an agenda and what are you finding offensive about the hijab? That is not healthy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jepsie 237 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 10 minutes ago, CowSiss said: For one, Gaga does not know the full purpose of hijab as she is not a Muslim women. There is a difference between a hijab and a burqa, burqas tend to to cover the whole face, not the hijab. Gaga got that wrong and she was in some trouble for that if I recall. Also, how am I making it into an agenda and what are you finding offensive about the hijab? That is not healthy You don't have to be a muslim to know about the purpose of the hijab. And trust me, Gaga knows since she likes studying religion. Burqa's and hijabs have the same purpose, which is to please God (since he commanded them and it's a sin if they don't) and to preserve their beauty. Muslim women get rewarded more in the afterlife if they wear a burqa rather than hijab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 19 minutes ago, CowSiss said: You assume that the hijab is being meant to cover immodesty, when really the hijab is meant as a form of expression, not protection. Then again, I am not Muslim myself and I cannot be making these assumptions so someone, an actual practitioner of the faith and better yet one that is female and wears the hijab voluntarily, please correct me if I'm wrong 22 minutes ago, CowSiss said: I feel like the hijab is a voluntary (voluntary for many Muslim women, some places it is involuntary) expression of their faith and/or identity, let them wear it if they want it to, just hopefully the hijab itself does not become a point of fetishization As a Muslim that dont believe in Hijab, I cant speak about this because most people dont believe I represent most muslims.. what I can say is it is meant to cover and be modest and so does men who have to do the same thing but in different ways. In todays generation though, many young women do wear it as a form of expression yes and I do agree with you as someone who lives in the Muslim world that its very rare to see a Muslim woman being forced to wear a hijab. Most families have girls with and without hijab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 14 minutes ago, CowSiss said: For one, Gaga does not know the full purpose of hijab as she is not a Muslim women. There is a difference between a hijab and a burqa, burqas tend to to cover the whole face, not the hijab. Gaga got that wrong and she was in some trouble for that if I recall. Also, how am I making it into an agenda and what are you finding offensive about the hijab? That is not healthy Gaga did not get anything wrong, she used the Burqa as a symbol and metaphor for what she was trying to say in that song and she only got in trouble from white liberal progressives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, Jepsie said: You don't have to be a muslim to know about the purpose of the hijab. And trust me, Gaga knows since she likes studying religion. Burqa's and hijabs have the same purpose, which is to please God (since he commanded them and it's a sin if they don't) and to preserve their beauty. Muslim women get rewarded more in the afterlife if they wear a burqa rather than hijab. Thats what Muslims believe yes but it is not a sin to not wear a hijab Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizzily 14,571 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 19 minutes ago, Seeka said: I can promise you, it already has been. Anything that exists, has been fetishized. Rule 34. I should know, I'm a freak. Inside my head I have the best time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jepsie 237 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Fay said: Thats what Muslims believe yes but it is not a sin to not wear a hijab She's a Muslim so it is for her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jepsie said: She's a Muslim so it is for her You mean its a sin to her if she doesnt wear a hijab because shes a Muslim? im a muslim and not wearing a hijab is not considered a sin. Wearing a hijab is viewed as something special and extremely important in the islamic world and they respect women that do wear it but not doing so is not looked at as committing a sin. Sins are very well documented in the Quran and not wearing a hijab is not one of them, even drinking wine is not a sin in islam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 48 minutes ago, Lance said: i didnt know Playboy was still a thing in 2016 but slay They stopped showing nudity... (yeah, seriously!) "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZ 4,380 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 people still use playboy? My Favs = Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, Ricky Martin, AKB48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starbucks 4,204 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 hour ago, CowSiss said: I feel like the hijab is a voluntary (voluntary for many Muslim women, some places it is involuntary) expression of their faith and/or identity, let them wear it if they want it to, just hopefully the hijab itself does not become a point of fetishization That's true! Your everyday cups of kindness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo cupcakke 4,781 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 48 minutes ago, Fay said: As a Muslim that dont believe in Hijab, I cant speak about this because most people dont believe I represent most muslims.. what I can say is it is meant to cover and be modest and so does men who have to do the same thing but in different ways. In todays generation though, many young women do wear it as a form of expression yes and I do agree with you as someone who lives in the Muslim world that its very rare to see a Muslim woman being forced to wear a hijab. Most families have girls with and without hijab. Thank you for your insight. It is very much appreciated, I do get its religious purpose, but I guess I was under the assumption of today's generation and did not necessarily account that it is also widely used for religious reasons. Your comments were definitely needed in this discussion to dispel the confusion and ignorance and both my and others' part Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeka 12,372 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 26 minutes ago, AKB48 said: people still use playboy? While before it was mostly a nudie p0rn mag with some articles thrown in, now it's more of a magazine filled with articles with some naked girls added for fun. If I remember correctly Playboy mag underwent a reform a few years ago to actually be read for articles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whore 11,447 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Lance said: i didnt know Playboy was still a thing in 2016 but slay Yeah, my grandfather still has a subscription , but they no longer publish nudes . They realised that internet p*rnography basically renders Playboy useless, so now they only publish pictures of pretty women and mostly articles now. They've really classed it up though, it used to be really gross, but now it looks really nice Look at the magazine cover before and after they changed Spoiler Before (cropped the cover cause I don't want a perma-ban ): After: I wouldn't say classy, but definitely more "modest" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, CowSiss said: Thank you for your insight. It is very much appreciated, I do get its religious purpose, but I guess I was under the assumption of today's generation and did not necessarily account that it is also widely used for religious reasons. Your comments were definitely needed in this discussion to dispel the confusion and ignorance and both my and others' part Thank you It is not ignorance, it is just not knowing all the detail information about other cultures and that is not a bad thing as you were told.. you cant know everything about everyone in the world. You can even disagree with me and tell me im wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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