The Professor 1,060 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 11 hours ago, Cupcakeboy2 said: He is not a rapist!! All those women are clearly lying now since we are getting close to the elections. Why didnt they speak out years ago?? Hillary 2016!!!!!! They did Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara 1,144 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 12 hours ago, Fay said: According to Hilary, we should always believe all rape victims.. also, many accusations were made towards bill cosby without proof yet everyone believed the victims but they dont believe Clinton victims! there is proof and real evidence that Hilary defended a pedophile against a 11 year old girl and laughed at the girl and throw away all evidence of rape. False: http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 12 hours ago, Fay said: According to Hilary, we should always believe all rape victims.. also, many accusations were made towards bill cosby without proof yet everyone believed the victims but they dont believe Clinton victims! there is proof and real evidence that Hilary defended a pedophile against a 11 year old girl and laughed at the girl and throw away all evidence of rape. She lied about the girl and said she always make false rape claims and seeks older men because shes mentally ill! She even used to FBI to attack and threaten these women to the point where Lewinsky said that she was threatened with things I did not know was legal in America! It seems nobody has a problem or concern with any of that.. if people still want to support all that, its fine but do not ignore or deny it. It seems like to people its only rape if it benefits your political agenda. Where can I see the evidence of rape done by Bill? I'd like to look over that. Also, someone mentioned the reality of the rape case and Hillary. Could you expand on that and what the process was? She was a defense attorney? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calmar 22,768 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 35 minutes ago, ZacharyMark said: Where can I see the evidence of rape done by Bill? I'd like to look over that. Also, someone mentioned the reality of the rape case and Hillary. Could you expand on that and what the process was? She was a defense attorney? I answered this earlier in the thread (around Page 1 - 2), if you care to look back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 42 minutes ago, ZacharyMark said: Also, someone mentioned the reality of the rape case and Hillary. Could you expand on that and what the process was? She was a defense attorney? Look at the link to the article that Sara provided right above your comment. It is a detailed and factual explanation and should answer any questions you might have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuko 1,010 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 @Whispering @Bebe @stvn sorry to bother you, but I'm a fan (I just read everything lol) You guys were very patient and provided some very good arguments + I learnt a lot of new things from you (which you took time to type out). I rlly appreciate people like you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Sara said: False: http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/ We already discussed this in the last pages.. 44 minutes ago, ZacharyMark said: Where can I see the evidence of rape done by Bill? I'd like to look over that. Also, someone mentioned the reality of the rape case and Hillary. Could you expand on that and what the process was? She was a defense attorney? I think you already sow the evidence as calmar pointed it out for you.. I did not know this but someone corrected me that she was a lawyer and was forced to take the case and defend the rapist but.. it is not acceptable for a lawyer to lie and Hilary did not just lie, she even attacked the 11 year old girl and called her mentally ill and seeker of older men who always claim false rape so she called a 11 year old girl mentally ill who seeks older men infront of her face! she did not have to do any of that and it is illegal. She has been attacking victims of rape her whole life as a young lawyer and then as a first lady and now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara 1,144 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 18 hours ago, calmar said: It's really shocking and disgusting, but it's how being a lawyer works in the United States - neither as a prosecutor nor as a defendant do you choose who you represent. You do cases for payment; it's your job. The 1975 case of Thomas Alfred Taylor likely did have her ask at least once to not do the job, but because the judge presiding over the case did not let her, she did her job professionally, which, naturally, takes a good amount of swallowing one's ethics and morals I personally do not think I am capable of doing, especially in that specific case. Our legal system is founded on "Innocent until proven guilty", so as a lawyer, if you pre-judge a defendant to be guilty and decide not to defend them, you undermine justice. You open the door to making the justice system even more slanted against minorities and the poor than it already is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calmar 22,768 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Just now, Sara said: Our legal system is founded on "Innocent until proven", so as a lawyer, if you pre-judge a defendant to be guilty and decide not to defend them, you undermine justice. You open the door to making the justice system even more slanted against minorities and the poor than it already is. That's true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara 1,144 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 11 minutes ago, Fay said: We already discussed this in the last pages.. I think you already sow the evidence as calmar pointed it out for you.. calmar didn't agree with you actually. He just said that Hillary HAD to take the case. She had to defend her client to the best of her ability, which means challenging all evidence. And she did not laugh about the crime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 14 hours ago, Whispering said: He's a Trump supporter who gets his BS from Brietbart and crazy conspiracy alt right sights. Can't you tell? The whole "I didn't know that about the justice system" was straight up bullshit! His refusal to even try to understand the most basic information exposed him. You shouldn't waste anymore of your time on this, as he has now jumped to his conspiracy Haiti BS he pulls out every time he gets backed in a corner and proven wrong. 14 hours ago, stvn said: good to know! biggest news channel in the world, yeah right. i'm done with it I did not say RT is the biggest, I said it is one of the biggest news channel in the world and that is a fact and they do not supports trump, its actually a progressive tv channel with someone like larry king working for them. None of my information was from conspiracy or the alt right as I dont even know what that exactly means! I did not talk about Haiti because I did not have anything to say and was cornered, I talked about it because you insisted and asked me to show him proof of Hilary corruption. As for me being a liar about not knowing the judge system well I admitted from the beginning that I did not understand it and I asked for you to explain it to me and was open to your argument and took it into consideration in my next argument so how is this me lying and refusing to understand this?? If you dont want to argue with me or are incapable of doing so, simply ignore me or tell me you dont want to continue this argument but to act this way is just wrong. To avoid this kind of behavior, its better to just ignore certain kind of people in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Sara said: calmar didn't agree with you actually. He just said that Hillary HAD to take the case. She had to defend her client to the best of her ability, which means challenging all evidence. And she did not laugh about the crime. I never said calmar agreed with me.. as for the rest of your comment, we already discussed this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara 1,144 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Truth is like a kernel of popcorn. If you apply heat and expand it to something bigger, it becomes easily squished. So many of these stories about Clinton are kernels of truth (she was ordered to defend a rapist), but through anger and misinformation they've been blown up into these crazy exaggerations that are easily crushed. Same for every Clinton story from Benghazi to Blackberrys, the more I dig, the less I actually find. I'm not saying she's flawless, she's an old-school politician and does all the dealing and money-raising games that come with that. But she's is not deserving of all the hate and threats she's getting, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Fay said: We already discussed this in the last pages.. I think you already sow the evidence as calmar pointed it out for you.. I did not know this but someone corrected me that she was a lawyer and was forced to take the case and defend the rapist but.. it is not acceptable for a lawyer to lie and Hilary did not just lie, she even attacked the 11 year old girl and called her mentally ill and seeker of older men who always claim false rape so she called a 11 year old girl mentally ill who seeks older men infront of her face! she did not have to do any of that and it is illegal. She has been attacking victims of rape her whole life as a young lawyer and then as a first lady and now. Where can I find the documents about her calling the victim names? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LePetitGAGABLover 21,234 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 5 hours ago, Sara said: Our legal system is founded on "Innocent until proven guilty", so as a lawyer, if you pre-judge a defendant to be guilty and decide not to defend them, you undermine justice. You open the door to making the justice system even more slanted against minorities and the poor than it already is. It would be interesting to have a legal system founded on "guilty until proven innocent" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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