Donald Trump pledges to sign anti-LGBTQ ‘First Amendment Defence Act’

[Borislshere 53,665]

1 minute ago, DemeLarell said:

2. Me.... one person.... on GagaDaily? No. 

i'm talking BIGGER than this site. when you log off and go to vote, These opinions DO matter. 

[AlexanderLevi2 5,849]

21 minutes ago, DemeLarell said:

 

3. Has someone ever tried to force their views on you?

To answer your 3rd question... Yes. Most gay men live their entire lives with views forced down their throats as you have experienced. As well as white society's views on yourself...

Most everyone on this site has felt this.

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2 minutes ago, M Monstre said:

Muslims: That's also sort of my point. When we have terrorists from different kinds of backgrounds with different ethnicities, and with radically different viewpoints, why do we have to single out Muslims? Is it because they're the most talked about and most "active"? Well, a terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist. I would also refrain from using the snake analogy because it's really just completely different. Here we're talking about human lives, human beings. Almost every one of those refugees and people coming into our country are coming in to make their lives better. They've literally lost everything, we need to act with compassion and love towards them. 

Mexicans: In your first post you specifically say that being Mexican isn't the problem, but being an illegal immigrant was. However, in this post you argue that because the majority are Mexican, that's where the problem lies. That doesn't make sense, and also to say "All illegals are criminals, I said all illegals have a high rate of criminals" is still a form of generalization. A lot of them are just trying to get jobs and provide for their families. Yes, some of them do have high percentages of criminals, but you still cannot paint a broad stroke on people like that.

Women: Okay, so he's attacking a person. That doesn't make it any better. An attack is an attack is an attack. However, that being said, he's still doing it from a sexist standpoint. Even in the debate last night, Lester Holt even asked him about his comments that Hillary "didn't look like a President" or something to that effect. He then had to result in saying "I mean she didn't have the stamina". He's also said things about many other women that are specifically directed towards them because they are women. He's called them pigs, said that if they're flat-chested they're not beautiful, etc. etc. 

Muslims: No its because most Islamic terrorism do threaten a whole country and can easily take it down if not careful unlike other kind of terrorism that only effects small communities and individual and can be easily stopped. ISIS main enemy is the entire government of the united states and justifies killing thousands of innocent citizens including muslims to reach that goal. If you dont want to protect your country because you are scared of being not politically correct, thats a problem.

Mexicans: Trump does have an issue with Canadian illegal immigrants and thats why they are stopped and punished by law so he is not saying other illegals shouldnt be stopped, its just that canadian illegals number is so small that its almost a none issue and you should focus on the place where it is causing an issue and sadly in this case, its coming from mexico. You then say im generalizing illegals but facts cant be generalizing as facts are facts and while I do recognize that alot of illegal are peaceful people, it is also a fact that a high number are criminals regardless if they are mexicans or not. Thats like saying im generalizing that most prostitutes have sexual diseases when in fact it is true.

Women: I never said it was better, im just saying its not sexist. All the example you used have nothing to do with sexism.. calling a woman a pig does not mean hes saying women are pigs so I dont know why you would associate pigs with women! When Trump said Hilary does not have a presidential look, he means how she carries herself, he did not mean because shes a woman! Small chested women does not equal women, its just a preference but he says it in a offensive way so you can say its offensive but its not sexist specially when he criticizes men on their looks too.

[DemeLarell 931]

10 minutes ago, Devyn said:

i'm talking BIGGER than this site. when you log off and go to vote, These opinions DO matter. 

OMG. Have you read anything I said. If I even decide to vote my opinions still doesn't match up with Trump's. I'm most likely not going to vote this year. 

10 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said:

This will only cause homophobia to be a norm rather than diminish it... It's scary how blasé you are about this.

This is history repeating itself. 

No there is a better solution (that black people did) that doesn't involve us shoving our views down their throat. 

5 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said:

To answer your 3rd question... Yes. Most gay men live their entire lives with views forced down their throats as you have experienced. As well as white society's views on yourself...

Most everyone on this site has felt this.

So why force our views down someone else throat?

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1 hour ago, faysalaaa1 said:

Muslims: he said he wants to temporarily stop people from muslim countries to come in until he fix the system and ISIS is no longer a threat. To prove he is not targeting muslims, he did say he will lift the ban after everything is fixed regarding the system and terrorism showing that he doesnt mind muslims and his main problem is terrorists who do not represent muslims. The whole world protects its boarders including muslim countries and protecting someones boarder is not racist.

Mexicans: All illegal immigrants regardless of their race have a high crime rate and do rape.. if canadians were entering the country illegally, he would say the same thing about them. Also, keep in mind that he spoke against ILLEGAL immigrants only who do not represents mexicans.

Women: He talks in a very vulgar way with men, women and everyone but somehow if he attacks a woman as an individual, people like to make it look as an attack on all women but when he does that to men or other people, its fine!

You can disagree with him all you want as I do but I dont see how the media, you and others can accuse him of these things such as racism.

You dont see him as racist because youre just buying into his words and youre not looking at the full picture, we do not live in a perfect world where laws such as his go well and everyone ends up happy.

Do you even realize the flaws and the extent of his muslim/mexican laws?

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2 minutes ago, DemeLarell said:

So why force our views down someone else throat?

ONCE AGAIN, We're not forcing our views down anyones throats! We're asking for service! It's strictly business! Don't get into the field if you're not going to serve people! Keep it professional.

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1 minute ago, DemeLarell said:

 

I'm just wondering Demey, have you ever lived someplace where basically, you feel like you're the only gay person there? Like everyone there hates you? Where most of the business you go to could be privately owned?

Like some of us HAVE to work with people who are prejudice. Some of us HAVE to patronize these establishments.

However, it's not just us, its our families. Some entire families can be shunned just because one of their relatives is gay. This rule basically allows people to say "Your son is gay, so I not only do I not want him here, I don't want any of his family here either".

Like No one can understand your viewpoint because some of us actually have to put up with these people. We have no other alternatives.

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20 minutes ago, Adakam said:

You dont see him as racist because youre just buying into his words and youre not looking at the full picture, we do not live in a perfect world where laws such as his go well and everyone ends up happy.

Do you even realize the flaws and the extent of his muslim/mexican laws?

No its simply because morally, I do not believe in accusing someone based on my assumptions.. and im not talking about how bad/good his laws are and his politics, im talking about his character and weather these laws are coming from a racist place or not.

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6 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said:

Women: I never said it was better, im just saying its not sexist. All the example you used have nothing to do with sexism.. calling a woman a pig does not mean hes saying women are pigs so I dont know why you would associate pigs with women! When Trump said Hilary does not have a presidential look, he means how she carries herself, he did not mean because shes a woman! Small chested women does not equal women, its just a preference but he says it in a offensive way so you can say its offensive but its not sexist specially when he criticizes men on their looks too.

I don't think the word "sexist" means what you think it means... There are specific insults that he has levied towards individual women that have criticized them based on an aspect of their womanhood/femininity (attractiveness, weight, "carriage", attitude, etc.). That's literally sexism, there's no other way to spin it  

Please give me an example of what you think sexism might be tbh, because based on this dismissal, I can't see it being anything other than "She has different chromosomes than me, so I didn't give her the job!" or something  

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10 minutes ago, Devyn said:

ONCE AGAIN, We're not forcing our views down anyones throats! We're asking for service! It's strictly business! Don't get into the field if you're not going to serve people! Keep it professional.

ONCE AGAIN. You clearly cannot comprehend what I'm saying because I never said anything about service. I'm referring to employment.

9 minutes ago, Seeka said:

I'm just wondering Demey, have you ever lived someplace where basically, you feel like you're the only gay person there? Like everyone there hates you? Where most of the business you go to could be privately owned?

Like some of us HAVE to work with people who are prejudice. Some of us HAVE to patronize these establishments.

However, it's not just us, its our families. Some entire families can be shunned just because one of their relatives is gay. This rule basically allows people to say "Your son is gay, so I not only do I not want him here, I don't want any of his family here either".

Like No one can understand your viewpoint because some of us actually have to put up with these people. We have no other alternatives.

We do have an alternative. And I have been through similar situations which is why I don't want to be somewhere Im not wanted. I'm sick of being treated like **** so why the **** do I want to be somewhere where they could potentially treat me like ****.

[Whispering 18,865]

8 minutes ago, DemeLarell said:

 

We shouldn't have to be in that environment yet we should force ourselves in there?

But shouldn't we respect their views, as we want ours to be. I wouldn't want to be in the presence of racist or a homophobic jerk. 

 

Ok, everyone instead of us talking in circles how about I just explain my whole thought process. And some of you brought up a parallel to race that I can address too. Are you guys cool with that?

Cool with what? That there is a parallel of racial discrimination and sexual discrimination? Of course there is! Same with gender. What would have happened if women and black people didn't try to get equal rights over the decades? 

"Well, they don't women there, so I don't want to be there". 

"They don't want black pro baseball players, so I don't want to play for them." 

"They don't want black people at their lunch counter, so I won't eat there." 

"They don't want Jews, Muslims, Gays in their club, so I don't want to be part of the club."

You enjoy the freedoms you have today because others in the past fought for the freedom to be treated as equal human beings in these private institutions. If brave people in the past hadn't stood for equal rights, we wouldn't have what we do have today. 

This isn't just about you personally not wanting to be treated equally, it is about the fact that others do want that. 

No, we shouldn't respect bigoted views and shouldn't accept discrimnatory practices! When opinions cross the line into actions, actions that discriminate against others, that is unacceptable and should not be tolerated! 

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4 hours ago, ItsTommyBitch said:

I don't think the word "sexist" means what you think it means... There are specific insults that he has levied towards individual women that have criticized them based on an aspect of their womanhood/femininity (attractiveness, weight, "carriage", attitude, etc.). That's literally sexism, there's no other way to spin it  

Please give me an example of what you think sexism might be tbh, because based on this dismissal, I can't see it being anything other than "She has different chromosomes than me, so I didn't give her the job!" or something  

Sexism means I believe that women are inferior to men and that thought brings in many things like not believing in equality. Its ok to believe men and women are different though but not inferior.. and regardless of the differences between the sexist, I shouldnt stop a woman from doing whatever she wants as its her individual right. That is what sexism means to me if thats what you wanted to know.

Big breasts does not represent femininity, both big and small breasts represents femininity and Trump thinks small breasts are not attractive.. I do not see how sexist that is specially when women always talk about mens penis size and weather size matters or not all the time yet I still do not think its sexist. I can understand you saying what he says is offensive but I wouldnt say its sexist.

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3 minutes ago, Whispering said:

Cool with what? That there is a parallel of racial discrimination and sexual discrimination? Of course there is! Same with gender. What would have happened if women and black people didn't try to get equal rights over the decades? 

"Well, they don't women there, so I don't want to be there". 

"They don't want black pro baseball players, so I don't want to play for them." 

"They don't want black people at their lunch counter, so I won't eat there." 

"They don't want Jews, Muslims, Gays in their club, so I don't want to be part of the club."

You enjoy the freedoms you have today because others in the past fought for the freedom to be treated as equal human beings in these private institutions. If brave people in the past hadn't stood for equal rights, we wouldn't have what we do have today. 

This isn't just about you personally not wanting to be treated equally, it is about the fact that others do want that. 

No, we shouldn't respect bigoted views and shouldn't accept discrimnatory practices! When opinions cross the line into actions, actions that discriminate against others, that is unacceptable and should not be tolerated! 

Read my comment over again...... Hint: I was referring to a proposition I made. 

Side note: Stop making assumptions and take the time to read, because your premises don't even correlate with my argument. 

[AlexanderLevi2 5,849]

27 minutes ago, DemeLarell said:

OMG. Have you read anything I said. If I even decide to vote my opinions still doesn't match up with Trump's. I'm most likely not going to vote this year. 

No there is a better solution (that black people did) that doesn't involve us shoving our views down their throat. 

So why force our views down someone else throat?

Viewpoints = Racism, Sexism, Homophobia, Religion (and no, I'm not relating religion to racism or sexism or homophobia)

Human lives = Race, Sex, LGBTQ

Do you see the difference?

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1 hour ago, Whispering said:

You realize this means that you could be denied housing, denied being seen by a doctor or dentist, or be fired from a job, just because you are gay. Is the same okay because you are black? 

"I'm sorry, I don't take patients that are black or gay." 

"Oh...you are gay, well...you are fired."

"I thought you were white, so I'm sorry, we can't rent an apartment to you." 

"I'm sorry, our restaurant doesn't serve black people." 

You agree with this? 

 

That's technically incorrect. They can't deny you service simply for being homosexual. They can only deny you service if you're gay and married, are about to have or attend a same-sex marriage, or are having any sexual relations outside of a traditional marriage.

Prohibits the federal government from taking discriminatory action against a person on the basis that such person believes or acts in accordance with a religious belief or moral conviction that: (1) marriage is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman, or (2) sexual relations are properly reserved to such a marriage.