President Trump 3,508 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 26 minutes ago, Redstreak said: Remember how last night Trump said he would have started a war with Iran because a few of their sailors teased ours? Literally anybody can vote and it's disturbing. Ma ma pa pa pa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Palutena 3,147 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 We are so doomed... Well, at least we'll get politicalGa back. I kind of missed her. "I'm gay, arrest me Trump!!!" - Gaga at a future performance during the Joanne Ball. Adoremus in caelum, Palutena. Dea luminis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKOUTbritney 22,369 Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 6 minutes ago, DemeLarell said: I wouldn't want to be employed there. No. That's what you guys are not getting. No, I do not want to be EMPLOYED by PRIVATELY OWNED RACIST AND HOMOPHOBIC COMPANIES. YOU don't want to. However other people RELY on those jobs or want a career in that field And they shouldn't be able to decide who works for them based on their racist and homophobic views. If they do hold those views, they shouldn't be running a company at all People need to look at how passing this bill/voting for trump affects the ENTIRE COMMUNITY, not just yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,166 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 13 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said: Muslims: Yes thats true I dont think he would disagree with you, there is also many christian terrorism but why let more of that in when your country is messed up? he is not saying that muslims will create this but let me explain this in a different way. If you have 100 snakes the are vegetarian and 2 that are extremely poisonous and might threaten the existence of many people, would you open the cage for them? thats the point he want making and in my country, there is an extremely dangerous entity that is killing us and their main target is America and if you do not protect yourself, you will end your country and ours aswell. Look, im not saying I agree with the ban, I just simply cant call him a racist based on that.Mexicans: Thats because Canadians do not enter America illegally or even want to enter America.. im not say there is no Canadians that enter illegally but that percentage is so little unlike illegal mexicans who are more than 11 million. Also, I did not say All illegals are criminals, I said all illegals have a high rate of criminals.. I hope you can understand the difference.Women: Yes he should be held accountable for what he says about men too but we shouldnt make it about gender when he is not attacking their gender, he is attacking them as human individuals.. you can hold him accountable on how he talks with humans in general and attack him on that but instead, people and the media wants to use gender politics and accuse him of sexism and attacking women when in reality he is just attacking a person. This false accusation makes the word sexism and racism lose its importance and make it a joke while people are suffering from real sexism and racism. If more people acted like you and are open to discussion without being triggered, offended and then accusing and attacking, we would all go forward and progress together because we understand where the other is coming from even if we disagree. Muslims: That's also sort of my point. When we have terrorists from different kinds of backgrounds with different ethnicities, and with radically different viewpoints, why do we have to single out Muslims? Is it because they're the most talked about and most "active"? Well, a terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist. I would also refrain from using the snake analogy because it's really just completely different. Here we're talking about human lives, human beings. Almost every one of those refugees and people coming into our country are coming in to make their lives better. They've literally lost everything, we need to act with compassion and love towards them. Mexicans: In your first post you specifically say that being Mexican isn't the problem, but being an illegal immigrant was. However, in this post you argue that because the majority are Mexican, that's where the problem lies. That doesn't make sense, and also to say "All illegals are criminals, I said all illegals have a high rate of criminals" is still a form of generalization. A lot of them are just trying to get jobs and provide for their families. Yes, some of them do have high percentages of criminals, but you still cannot paint a broad stroke on people like that. Women: Okay, so he's attacking a person. That doesn't make it any better. An attack is an attack is an attack. However, that being said, he's still doing it from a sexist standpoint. Even in the debate last night, Lester Holt even asked him about his comments that Hillary "didn't look like a President" or something to that effect. He then had to result in saying "I mean she didn't have the stamina". He's also said things about many other women that are specifically directed towards them because they are women. He's called them pigs, said that if they're flat-chested they're not beautiful, etc. etc. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemeLarell 931 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Just now, BLACKOUTbritney said: YOU don't want to. However other people RELY on those jobs or want a career in that field And they shouldn't be able to decide who works for them based on their racist and homophobic views. If they do hold those views, they shouldn't be running a company at all 1. you act as if that is the only company in their field. 2. like you said I, not other people. This is my opinion. You act like I'm a law maker and I want this for everybody. Like I said before there is a clear division between my personal beliefs and reality. You guys only focus on your personal beliefs and not the reality aspect of it all which makes you know better than the bigots, the republicans, or the democrats. 3. Has someone ever tried to force their views on you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borislshere 53,665 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 12 minutes ago, DemeLarell said: I wouldn't want to be employed there. No. That's what you guys are not getting. No, I do not want to be EMPLOYED by PRIVATELY OWNED RACIST AND HOMOPHOBIC COMPANIES. But this isn't just about YOU. Not everyone has the luxury to just move on to another place because of the management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemeLarell 931 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Just now, Devyn said: But this isn't just about YOU. Not everyone has the luxury to just move on to another place because of the management. OMG. Read my statement above..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeka 12,372 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 51 minutes ago, DemeLarell said: Thank you for your respectful comment. But I was just talking about this subject earlier this week to another black gay person in my life. I personally don't like the idea of forcing myself where I'm not wanted, and I don't understand why anyone would. I don't want to impose on anyone's views or religious beliefs. If they do not like me for my color or sexuality why the hell do I want to force myself to be in that environment. But I only feel that way about private owned businesses and employers. The rest I feel like any human being should be entitled to. It still doesn't make sense, as there are many Christians who don't believe being gay is a sin, as they are probably atheists who hate homosexual for no actual reason. You're not a guest, you're customer. This arguement would make sene if you were in someone else's house, not their business. This is a bad choice for business as, even if the business does get turned over to new management, it will have a past of being anti-something, and lose customers. So basically, this rule, is basically a bunch of bull, since people choose to believe certain things in their religions, while ignoring others. ALSO, with this rule in place, people can turn away others, without learning a thing from them. You're basically supporting full on, full blown ignorance. So you don't want there to be even the chance a person gets to know you for who you are, and not your skin tone or sexuality? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,166 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 15 minutes ago, DemeLarell said: It's so funny how we like to throw around the word bigot but have you looked at the things you guys are saying in this thread about people with differing opinions. I never said I totally agreed with him. And either you guys cannot read or have no comprehension skills, because what you are saying I said is untrue. You guys are no better than trump. So why be in an environment where this doesn't exist. Ionly agreed with 1 aspect of that whole policy and you guys are painting me as a gay and black trump supporter that hates his self and his kind when that is not the case. Look at some of these comments. I try my best not to disrespect anyone on this site yet some people can be so vile. I wouldn't want to be employed there. No. That's what you guys are not getting. No, I do not want to be EMPLOYED by PRIVATELY OWNED RACIST AND HOMOPHOBIC COMPANIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! No, now you're twisting words. People can have an opinion, absolutely. However, when it comes to a point where people are now not being treated as human beings, then that's when it becomes an issue. Then that becomes an issue of right vs. wrong. When something like blatant discrimination occurs, that's objectively wrong. Some people just can't understand—I'm not talking about you, but people in general. You shouldn't have to be in an environment where that exists. We need to start [hopefully] changing mind sets and start being more open-minded as a society. Just because someone has an opinion, doesn't mean that they're correct. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Heart 15,041 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Y'all better vote against this clown. Sick of this bs. ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah X 5,250 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 This opens up the gate for endless possibilities. If employers can now discriminate on gays based on their beliefs, can I then now discriminate on black people cause of my "beliefs"? or muslims? it opens a door to other injustice to pass through...kinda like segregation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKOUTbritney 22,369 Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 minute ago, DemeLarell said: 1. you act as if that is the only company in their field. 2. like you said I, not other people. This is my opinion. You act like I'm a law maker and I want this for everybody. Like I said before there is a clear division between my personal beliefs and reality. You guys only focus on your personal beliefs and not the reality aspect of it all which makes you know better than the bigots, the republicans, or the democrats. 3. Has someone ever tried to force their views on you? 1. Some people will have ranks within their workforce they've worked hard to achieve and would likely have to take a lower position changing companies, especially young adults or recent graduates 2. With a bill like this you can't just think about I. Its affecting a huge community of people coming from all different genders, age, race, socioeconomic status', you can't just think how it affects only you 3. Yes, I'm not forcing an opinion on you, I understood your posts and I'm only disagreeing on how you're opinions are only based on how this bill affects you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borislshere 53,665 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, DemeLarell said: 1. you act as if that is the only company in their field. 2. like you said I, not other people. This is my opinion. You act like I'm a law maker and I want this for everybody. Like I said before there is a clear division between my personal beliefs and reality. You guys only focus on your personal beliefs and not the reality aspect of it all which makes you know better than the bigots, the republicans, or the democrats. 3. Has someone ever tried to force their views on you? 1. what about those gay people who grow up in small towns where 95% of the business are conservative? they can't just move to another city. They need those jobs. 2. you do realize how big of an impact you can make on these law makers right? So it is more than just an opinion. 3. It's not even gay people forcing there views. IT's them wanting to be treated equally. We're not trying to make these business owners accept homosexuality, we're saying we should be treated the same as heterosexuals no matter our sexual orientation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemeLarell 931 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, Seeka said: It still doesn't make sense, as there are many Christians who don't believe being gay is a sin, as they are probably atheists who hate homosexual for no actual reason. You're not a guest, you're customer. This arguement would make sene if you were in someone else's house, not their business. This is a bad choice for business as, even if the business does get turned over to new management, it will have a past of being anti-something, and lose customers. So basically, this rule, is basically a bunch of bull, since people choose to believe certain things in their religions, while ignoring others. ALSO, with this rule in place, people can turn away others, without learning a thing from them. You're basically supporting full on, full blown ignorance. So you don't want there to be even the chance a person gets to know you for who you are, and not your skin tone or sexuality? Just go read the previous things I said...... I'm not twisting anything. 4 minutes ago, M Monstre said: No, now you're twisting words. People can have an opinion, absolutely. However, when it comes to a point where people are now not being treated as human beings, then that's when it becomes an issue. Then that becomes an issue of right vs. wrong. When something like blatant discrimination occurs, that's objectively wrong. Some people just can't understand—I'm not talking about you, but people in general. You shouldn't have to be in an environment where that exists. We need to start [hopefully] changing mind sets and start being more open-minded as a society. Just because someone has an opinion, doesn't mean that they're correct. Go read some of the other comments.... I'm not twisting anything. We shouldn't have to be in that environment yet we should force ourselves in there? 2 minutes ago, Devyn said: 1. what about those gay people who grow up in small towns where 95% of the business are conservative? they can't just move to another city. They need those jobs. 2. you do realize how big of an impact you can make on these law makers right? So it is more than just an opinion. 3. It's not even gay people forcing there views. IT's them wanting to be treated equally. We're not trying to make these business owners accept homosexuality, we're saying we should be treated the same as heterosexuals no matter our sexual orientation. 1. I'll deal with that answer later. 2. Me.... one person.... on GagaDaily? No. 3. But shouldn't we respect their views, as we want ours to be. I wouldn't want to be in the presence of racist or a homophobic jerk. Ok, everyone instead of us talking in circles how about I just explain my whole thought process. And some of you brought up a parallel to race that I can address too. Are you guys cool with that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 hour ago, DemeLarell said: I have the same stance. I feel like we should be treated equal, but at the end of the day there will still be racist. Why would I want to force myself into a privately owned company that has racist beliefs. Same applies her. Why would I want to be in a company with homophobic beliefs? But I'm only referring to PRIVATELY OWNED COMPANIES. This will only cause homophobia to be a norm rather than diminish it... It's scary how blasé you are about this. This is history repeating itself. Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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