Head Empty 25,064 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I personally don't "need" Gaga to prove anything, but I can understand what some other fans believe she has yet to prove. You only need to look back at the first three years of her career to see. Gaga's whole artistry embodied the fact that she wanted to become one of the great entertainers of our time. Obviously starting with the whole idea of "The Fame", and then continuing onto her other projects like the Fame perfume and the iconography of ARTPOP. She has achieved incredible succes in the past, and she definitely already made several marks on music history. But she has yet achieved the level of stardom that she professed to search for during the first years of her career, simply because her cultural impact was relatively short (albeit very powerful). So in that sense, if she wants to join the lineup of legends like MJ, Madonna, Bruce, Bowie, etc., she might need more career-defining, timeless hits that even people who aren't born yet will remember her by in the future. Of course, all of this hinges on the assumption that it's still be Gaga's goal to achieve legendary status like she used to - which might not even be the case. But if you ask me, her current approach could very well lead her down that path. Overexposure has always been her worst enemy career-wise, so the "take it or leave it" attitute might be most healthy for both her as well as the audience. And after all, nobody ever "became" a legend by forcing their music onto the audience just to achieve more commercial succes. You either are a legend, or you're not, and focussing too much on being "succesful" won't help. Time will tell. Happiness will never last, darkness comes to kick your ass... ᵃˢˢ 🕺 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilly 475 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 9 hours ago, Nino said: Their names are Bad and Thriller. Beyonce's defining hits also mainly came from only I Am Sasha Fierce. I can continue to list off LEGENDS with few iconic eras if you'd like. youre delusional af if you think michael only has 2 huge eras. like wtf? he's the best selling solo artist in HISTORY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehanyo 4,251 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 She has to prove she has staying power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Gilly said: you're wrong. britney was opening with 500k copies in the USA with Circus 10 years after her career took off. Britney has HIT SINGLES up until her 7TH album. Gagas last hit single was 3 years ago with her 3rd/4th album, and by the looks of it, she wont be getting another one anytime soon. AP didnt even go platinum. Britney's 4th album had mega hits like Toxic. Britney never went THAT long without being commercially irrelevant. Even with Blackout, she was having hit singles and was obviously relevant (for good or bad reasons - dont matter). Britney herself admitted "Britney" was a huge underperformance. ARTPOP's sales adjusted for the decline of music sales are close to In The Zone's, and that's without ARTPOP having a hit single. Britney recorded an album so bad her record label cancelled it. Blackout was considered a colossal flop until bottoms stuck in the past started worshiping it. Most importantly though, Circus only performed well because her team decided to capitalize on a traumatic experience Britney had and sold it as a comeback. You don't label something a comeback if they weren't ever gone. After Circus's mental breakdown fueled success Britney went back to releasing moderately successful albums, still regarded as a legend and adored by the public. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13VictorC 1,102 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 For me, Gaga needs to prove that her first imperial phase was not simply luck and timing, but that it was her own doing. That she's not playing the game, because she's the game herself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyliesChild 16,907 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, Nino said: Britney herself admitted "Britney" was a huge underperformance. ARTPOP's sales adjusted for the decline of music sales are close to In The Zone's, and that's without ARTPOP having a hit single. Britney recorded an album so bad her record label cancelled it. Blackout was considered a colossal flop until bottoms stuck in the past started worshiping it. Most importantly though, Circus only performed well because her team decided to capitalize on a traumatic experience Britney had and sold it as a comeback. You don't label something a comeback if they weren't ever gone. After Circus's mental breakdown fueled success Britney went back to releasing moderately successful albums, still regarded as a legend and adored by the public. The Original Doll wasn't cancelled because it was bad per say, rumor has it that the album was too personal and there must've been a reason to why they deleted all of the traces of the songs. Mona Lisa isn't bad for Britney's standards: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I agree with you, Gaga has a legacy already but it's easy to lose it real quick because she's been in the game for a few years. She has nothing to prove artistically, I think people take her seriously (or are aware of her talent anyways), it's just that there is a danger that she can be forgotten by the general public, whether that's important or that she cares or not, I think it's a fact. If she's been in the game for 15 years or something, everyone would relax I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Skai Jackson said: The Original Doll wasn't cancelled because it was bad per say, rumor has it that the album was too personal and there must've been a reason to why they deleted all of the traces of the songs. Mona Lisa isn't bad for Britney's standards: If you want to pretend the song's we've gotten from OD are up to Britney's quality standard have fun with that but don't @ me with it again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyliesChild 16,907 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Nino said: If you want to pretend the song's we've gotten from OD are up to Britney's quality standard have fun with that but don't @ me with it again Even if you don't agree, what you said is still wrong because from what we know you can infer that the album wasn't scrapped because it is bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Skai Jackson said: Even if you don't agree, what you said is still wrong because from what we know you can infer that the album wasn't scrapped because it is bad. It was scrapped because Jive thought it would damage her career. If that doesn't qualify the album as bad I don't know what will to you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,762 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Imo, she has nothing to prove. She's a person with a life to live, just like anyone else. She doesn't need to be held accountable for what other people think she needs to prove. If she's happy with what she's done in her life, that's what really matters. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 10 hours ago, CLLGaga said: You got to understand that nobody knows or cares about any of her awards and side endeavors. ... They think "that girl that sang Poker Face and wears crazy outfits everyday. She has a **** lmao!!" Well, there is no reason for Gaga to cater to ignorants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopBitch 1,218 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 More to prove as a songwriter capable of a critically-acclaimed brilliant album. Joanne may clench that for her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Not a damn thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 4 hours ago, Gilly said: She's like not inspired. idk whats wrong Look at any interview from the era and her talking about what the music on Joanne means to her and then claim that she isn't "inspired." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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